U42 Preview 2: Filigree

[Gemini-Dragon357]

No.. the only thing not terribly useful to MOST is the Spell Failure.. everything eles is VERY much in line with what Locks need.... that leaves 6, and most will dump Wis in favor of Personality for Saves.... try again

Warlocks really don't need Intelligence or Wisdom. Why would a Warlock need Intelligence +1? Half a point worth of Spellcraft? If you pick Cha for Will Saves like you said, you don't need Wisdom +1. Even if you don't take that feat, +1 Wisdom is only half a will save. And Arcane spell failure is mostly useless for most builds. Plus, we have augments, items and enhancements that can over come just about all of it. So that leaves 4.

Otto's Irrevocable Power has 8 filigrees to choose from, so you're less likely to run into this problem when you more options available to you.

[Thrudh]

Next Fall Filigree Set

• When 2 pieces are equipped: +2 to Attack and Damage with Weapons
• When 3 pieces are equipped: +5 Melee Power
• When 4 pieces are equipped: You gain +5 to Attack and Damage vs. Tripped targets
  
  

Individual Filigree

• Attack and Damage +1 -~- Rare Version: & +2 PRR
• Dexterity +1 -~- Rare Version: & +2 PRR
• Melee Power +3 -~- Rare Version: & +2 Melee Power
• Reflex Saving Throws +2 -~- Rare Version: & +2 MRR
• Trip DCs +1 -~- Rare Version: & +2 PRR
• Wisdom +1 -~- Rare Version: & +2 MRR

I really like the idea of this set, +1 trip DC in the filigree is a cool addition, and the set bonus that actually checks for tripped mobs is awesome.

But +5 to attack and damage is really weak. I mean, really really weak. Can we bump this up please?

I mean other filigree sets that do extra damage, do like 4d6 plus 1d6 per epic level. And that's every hit on every mob, not situational, like tripping a mob first.

[TrueMan54914]

Thought we'd see another set for tanks. Some HP's, AC's, PRR's %Up, Intim, or Hate bumps triggered by things tanks do (shield block, paly/ftr defensive stance, etc).

I have not seen any reply to this topic. I'm hopeful it was just missed and they will release it with the live release.

[Lynnabel]

I have not seen any reply to this topic. I'm hopeful it was just missed and they will release it with the live release.

It's a great idea and is on our short list for further gen 2 filigree, but we have no plans of adding an additional set to the current lineup for this release.

[Duhboy]

Will Schisms appear in the Sharn raids? Also any new Schism upgrade able items?

[easterwhale]

Through the Mists Filigree Set Rare Set!

• When 2 pieces are equipped: You gain the effects of True Seeing
• When 3 pieces are equipped: +1% Dodge and Maximum Dodge
• When 4 pieces are equipped: +10 Ranged Power
• When 5 pieces are equipped: When you use Uncanny Dodge, gain 50 Ranged Power for 15 seconds.
  

The 5pcs part, it's currently adding 50mp instead of rp.

[Drag-]

Coalesced Magic Filigree Set Rare Set!

• When 2 pieces are equipped: +10 Universal Spell Power
• When 3 pieces are equipped: +4% Universal Spell Crit Damage
• When 4 pieces are equipped: +1 Caster Level with Arcane Spells
• When 5 pieces are equipped: +30 Universal Spell Power
  

Individual Filigree

• Arcane Spell Failure -10% -~- Rare Version: & +4 Universal Spell Power
• Charisma +1 -~- Rare Version: & +2 MRR
• Intelligence +1 -~- Rare Version: & +2 MRR
• Magical Resistance Rating +3 -~- Rare Version: & +2 PRR
• Universal Spell Crit Damage +1% -~- Rare Version: & +4 Universal Spell Power
• Universal Spell Power +6 -~- Rare Version: & +4 Universal Spell Power
• Wisdom +1 -~- Rare Version: & +2 MRR

Reverberation Filigree Set

• When 2 pieces are equipped: Melee and Missile attacks deal an additional 4d6 +1d6 per character epic level in Sonic damage. This effect will not stack with other Sentience weapon procs.
• When 3 pieces are equipped: +20 Sonic Spell Power
• When 4 pieces are equipped: +3% Sonic Spell Crit Damage
  

Individual Filigree

• Charisma +1 -~- Rare Version: & +2 MRR
• Physical Resistance Rating +3 -~- Rare Version: & +2 MRR
• Reflex Saving Throws +2 -~- Rare Version: & +2 MRR
• Light Absorption +5% -~- Rare Version: & +2 MRR
• Sonic Spell Power +9 -~- Rare Version: & +4 Universal Spell Power
• Universal Spell Power +6 -~- Rare Version: & +4 Universal Spell Power

Sanctified Fervor Filigree Set Rare Set!

• When 2 pieces are equipped: +5 Healing Amplification
• When 3 pieces are equipped: +5 Melee and Ranged Power
• When 4 pieces are equipped: +2% Doublestrike, +2% Doubleshot
• When 5 pieces are equipped: When you activate Smite Evil you gain: +5 Melee Power and an additional +1 Melee Power per Religious Lore Feat you have.
  

Individual Filigree

• Charisma +1 -~- Rare Version: & +2 MRR
• Healing Amplification +10 -~- Rare Version: & +2 MRR
• Melee Power +3 -~- Rare Version: & +2 Melee Power
• Physical Resistance Rating +3 -~- Rare Version: & +2 MRR
• Uses of Smite Evil per Rest +2 -~- Rare Version: & +2 MRR
• Strength +1 -~- Rare Version: & +2 PRR
• Wisdom +1 -~- Rare Version: & +2 MRR

Soulweaver Filigree Set Rare Set!

• When 2 pieces are equipped: +20 Positive Spell Power
• When 3 pieces are equipped: +1 Caster Level with Positive Spells
• When 4 pieces are equipped: +2 to all Saving Throws
• When 5 pieces are equipped: +5% Positive Spell Crit Damage
  

Individual Filigree

• Charisma +1 -~- Rare Version: & +2 MRR
• Constitution +1 -~- Rare Version: & +2 PRR
• Positive Spell Crit Damage +2% -~- Rare Version: & +4 Universal Spell Power
• Positive Spell Power +30 -~- Rare Version: & +4 Universal Spell Power
• Spell Points +9 -~- Rare Version: & +4 Universal Spell Power
• Universal Spell Power +6 -~- Rare Version: & +4 Universal Spell Power
• Wisdom +1 -~- Rare Version: & +2 MRR

Theres a couple filigree sets that are a little unbalanced that could be better.

The Coalesced Magic the spell crit damage is really weak you could easily triple the filigree and set bonus and move it to the set bonus to the 5 piece and swap it with the 30 usp.

Same thing with the Reverberation set. The spell crit damage should upped to 20-25% for it to be considered for anything. Also change the 2 piece set bonus to the spell power and make the 3 piece like +2 evocation dc.

The Sanctified Fervor set. Can you up the 2 piece heal amp value to 10 or 15%. Theres no reason the filigree should have a higher value than the 2 piece set bonus. Can you up the doublestrike and doubleshot to 3% to match shattered device? Also the melee power for smite could be a little higher if you are trying to help paladins out. I would change it to just be 2 times the number of religious feats.

The Soulweaver set. Can we up the positive spell crit damage on this one as well to 20-25% and the filigree to 6-9%.

[Dreppo]

The 5pcs part, it's currently adding 50mp instead of rp.

With that in mind, maybe the set could be adjusted to appeal to both melee and ranged. Grant both mp and rp in the 4- and 5-piece set bonuses.

[Tilomere]

Shattered Device Filigree Set Rare Set!
When 4 pieces are equipped: Your Melee and Ranged attacks have a chance to reduce enemy PRR and MRR by 10 for 10 seconds


Is this LGS Ooze/Melted, or a different stacking effect?

[Aredharr]

Next Fall Filigree Set

• When 2 pieces are equipped: +2 to Attack and Damage with Weapons
• When 3 pieces are equipped: +5 Melee Power
• When 4 pieces are equipped: You gain +5 to Attack and Damage vs. Tripped targets
  

Individual Filigree

• Attack and Damage +1 -~- Rare Version: & +2 PRR
• Dexterity +1 -~- Rare Version: & +2 PRR
• Melee Power +3 -~- Rare Version: & +2 Melee Power
• Reflex Saving Throws +2 -~- Rare Version: & +2 MRR
• Trip DCs +1 -~- Rare Version: & +2 PRR
• Wisdom +1 -~- Rare Version: & +2 MRR

I totally agree with Thrudh that the idea if this set is great.

However, I don't see any reason to use it for a +5 to dmg, which is not even a ~5% dmg increase at cap.
This set would really make sense if the 4-piece (or even a new 5-piece) bonus would be that tripped mobs take double damage, as if held helpless. This would still be way behind helpless damage (which is increased from many enhancements, or gear bonuses) and would bring a reason to use trip. Otherwise, I can hardly see anybody using this on epic level as it is lackluster.

Even better would be that a 5-piece set would render tripped mobs helpless. That would be cool and useful, especially considering that it's the only CC an acrobat has, for example.

Thanks!

I really like the idea of this set, +1 trip DC in the filigree is a cool addition, and the set bonus that actually checks for tripped mobs is awesome.

But +5 to attack and damage is really weak. I mean, really really weak. Can we bump this up please?

I mean other filigree sets that do extra damage, do like 4d6 plus 1d6 per epic level. And that's every hit on every mob, not situational, like tripping a mob first.

[SerPounce]

I'm surprised to see there's no new double set filigrees to purchase with thread of fate. Hopefully that's something that will come at some point. Got to keep that threads of fate system updated! Just say no to abandoning crafting systems.

I totally agree with Thrudh that the idea if this set is great.

However, I don't see any reason to use it for a +5 to dmg, which is not even a ~5% dmg increase at cap.
This set would really make sense if the 4-piece (or even a new 5-piece) bonus would be that tripped mobs take double damage, as if held helpless. This would still be way behind helpless damage (which is increased from many enhancements, or gear bonuses) and would bring a reason to use trip. Otherwise, I can hardly see anybody using this on epic level as it is lackluster.

Even better would be that a 5-piece set would render tripped mobs helpless. That would be cool and useful, especially considering that it's the only CC an acrobat has, for example.

Thanks!

Treating tripped mobs has helpless would be really neat. Who knows how feasible it is from the programming side though.

[Lynnabel]

I'm surprised to see there's no new double set filigrees to purchase with thread of fate. Hopefully that's something that will come at some point. Got to keep that threads of fate system updated! Just say no to abandoning crafting systems.

Given that 1) The new raids drop threads and 2) the raid crafting uses threads I'd say your fear is unfounded.

My plan is to update cross-set Filigree when the full Series 2 Filigree are done and we move to the next suite (just like the splits came the update before Series 2 was released).

Also, since we've resurrected Nearly Finished, technically the amount of old crafting systems in the game is going down this update - heh

Treating tripped mobs has helpless would be really neat. Who knows how feasible it is from the programming side though.

Would be functionally impossible - we'd have to refactor every trip source in the game to care about if you had the filigree equipped.

[SerPounce]

Given that 1) The new raids drop threads and 2) the raid crafting uses threads I'd say your fear is unfounded.

My plan is to update cross-set Filigree when the full Series 2 Filigree are done and we move to the next suite (just like the splits came the update before Series 2 was released).

Also, since we've resurrected Nearly Finished, technically the amount of old crafting systems in the game is going down this update - heh

Cool, that makes sense. You have to be kind of forgiving over us getting twitchy about abandoned crafting systems though . I love that "nearly finished" is getting another go. Have we gotten any details on that BTW? I must have missed it if we did.

Would be functionally impossible - we'd have to refactor every trip source in the game to care about if you had the filigree equipped.

Unfortunate, but not surprising. Would a percentage increase in damage to tripped mobs be feasible?

[Lynnabel]

Would a percentage increase in damage to tripped mobs be feasible?

DDO would light itself on fire and jettison itself into the sea.

[Gratch]

DDO would light itself on fire and jettison itself into the sea.

Again?

Blarghhh... but youzes just bailed the last of the water out of the enhancement system.

[Logic]

The new Filigrees look interesting. Artifacts are a cool idea too. Nice work!

[Aredharr]

Again?

Blarghhh... but youzes just bailed the last of the water out of the enhancement system.

haha she probably has a shortcut for this line!

CTRL+FIRE

DDO would light itself on fire and jettison itself into the sea.

[janave]

DDO would light itself on fire and jettison itself into the sea.

Liquid Nitrogen + Ratchet belt.

Enjoy

[droid327]

DDO would light itself on fire and jettison itself into the sea.

At this point I think DDO is just crying for attention...