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    Default Please Fix BTC item problem?

    You could do one of the following

    1-Make all BTC items BTA

    2-Make a temporary conversion of BTC to BTA possible via event or in store purchase (Becomes BTC again when taken out of the shared bank by another character)

    3-Make only equipment type BTC items all BTA

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    Um no.

    If you were to ask me I wish more items were BTC on Equip.

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    Or you could just farm the item you need on the character you want it on. Seeing as most BtC stuff comes from raids, that would increase the amount of raids ran.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yamani View Post
    Or you could just farm the item you need on the character you want it on. Seeing as most BtC stuff comes from raids, that would increase the amount of raids ran.
    The problem is more complicated than that really, for some raids you might as well move servers to run if you want to run them as much as possible, so your best option if you really love your server despite that would be to make a character on another server with the intent to transfer said character to your main server after he has farmed all desired loot so he can then give said loot to your main character. It would be a fair price to pay if it cost 750 DDO points to transfer a BTC item from one character to another on your own account and in reality such would increase revenue for SSG as such would cost little enough to program that the first day of release on said item could pay for itself provided that the coding time only takes about 48 hours to complete and is done by an individual or a team that the 48 hours of work is divided between. So it could very well become a norm for players to create characters on one server to farm items and transfer to their home server once farming is completed, this process could rinse and repeat once every major raid added if said raid lacks groups running it on any given server with an average of raid items per transfer being about 3, so about $40 profit per individual person's farming aid process if I recall correctly.

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    With the exception of the handful of top end raids everything else can be solo'd or ran with a small group so it isn't quite as bad as 'might as well switch servers '. Get a couple buddies to run the raid with ya. No big deal.
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    imo all raid stuff should stay BTC, more things should be BTC on equip like someone said in here, runes help with farming items on an alt because if you dont get it on the toon you want it for, you cna just buy it with runes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spyder7723 View Post
    With the exception of the handful of top end raids everything else can be solo'd or ran with a small group so it isn't quite as bad as 'might as well switch servers '. Get a couple buddies to run the raid with ya. No big deal.
    I would, if they were staying at cap, the problem is my best friends in the game are not frequent raid plan friendly.......

    Friend A-Jumps from level 15 to 30 and reincarnates while I sleep and do my morning routines, have to run level six quests with him on a different character instead of continuing arc. Plus he goes from country to country on trips every so often, mainly to spend time with a f

    Friend B-Has multiple characters all with a certain color in their name with an extra D, great conversationalist but inconsistently online and has way too many dedicated alts to easily keep track of.

    Friend C-F-Reliable to raid with, if I can catch them online

    Random filler person type 1-No mic, won't follow typed directions, actually only makes the raid harder to run.

    Random filler person type 2-Does things their own way and shows promise through how well they survive and off enemies but then blames you anyways if the raid fails because they did not go where they were told and do the task they were given in the strategy that was shared before the raid officially started. Kind of like a version of Leeroy Jenkins with a few cheat codes turned on. It seems like these types are sincerely about being in a raid that succeeds, but more about having an excuse to talk down to others when one fails.

    Random filler person type 3-Cracks jokes and provides conversation to make it somewhat an enjoyable experience regardless of success

    Random filler person type 4-Competent and disciplined like someone who had the mind of a soldier

    Random filler person type 5-Somewhat accurate Leeroy Jenkins imitation

    And then there are variables such as lag, an individual's personal internet connection, and the dread of Spouse aggro or children in need. Frankly these problems are in reality, not even their fault to begin with more often than not, however, it still tends to occur frequently enough to bring morale down in a group located on a poorly populated server.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrTrolol View Post
    imo all raid stuff should stay BTC, more things should be BTC on equip like someone said in here, runes help with farming items on an alt because if you dont get it on the toon you want it for, you cna just buy it with runes.
    What about option #2, Could that work any?

    It could be a limited release item that is only available once a year or so, it could be a new kind of binding SBTC (Special bind to character on acquire) or BTATC (Bound to account then character).

    If they keep it limited, it shouldn't hurt anything.

    Frankly it would however hurt things in a way if we were allowed to convert items gained in raid to a percentage of the raid runes they'd have cost to acquire as such would encourage people to be less likely to pass what they don't need and sadly not everyone has the principals required to fight the urge to not pass what you don't need in a raid chest. There are of course other alternatives, and the raid runes are a good point, but raid runes can't be passed in a chest can they? If raid runes could be passed in a chest, people would be compelled to trade in chests the small amount of runes another person got, for the item they do not want or need and I've only ever met one person who agreed to a trade and then took both items for themselves and they are remembered by others for that and that remembrance holds consequences I am sure they likely regret.

    In other words, an option #4 exists in which is to allow people to pass raid runes in the chests to other players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokeal_The_Flame View Post
    I would, if they were staying at cap, the problem is my best friends in the game are not frequent raid plan friendly.......

    Friend A-Jumps from level 15 to 30 and reincarnates while I sleep and do my morning routines, have to run level six quests with him on a different character instead of continuing arc. Plus he goes from country to country on trips every so often, mainly to spend time with a f

    Friend B-Has multiple characters all with a certain color in their name with an extra D, great conversationalist but inconsistently online and has way too many dedicated alts to easily keep track of.

    Friend C-F-Reliable to raid with, if I can catch them online

    Random filler person type 1-No mic, won't follow typed directions, actually only makes the raid harder to run.

    Random filler person type 2-Does things their own way and shows promise through how well they survive and off enemies but then blames you anyways if the raid fails because they did not go where they were told and do the task they were given in the strategy that was shared before the raid officially started. Kind of like a version of Leeroy Jenkins with a few cheat codes turned on. It seems like these types are sincerely about being in a raid that succeeds, but more about having an excuse to talk down to others when one fails.

    Random filler person type 3-Cracks jokes and provides conversation to make it somewhat an enjoyable experience regardless of success

    Random filler person type 4-Competent and disciplined like someone who had the mind of a soldier

    Random filler person type 5-Somewhat accurate Leeroy Jenkins imitation

    And then there are variables such as lag, an individual's personal internet connection, and the dread of Spouse aggro or children in need. Frankly these problems are in reality, not even their fault to begin with more often than not, however, it still tends to occur frequently enough to bring morale down in a group located on a poorly populated server.

    Making raid gear bta won't have any effect on those raiding issues you listed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by spyder7723 View Post
    Making raid gear bta won't have any effect on those raiding issues you listed.
    Actually yes it would as servers that have a small population only have so many raid groups running and at some point there is not enough dedicated players remaining to be able to form a raid group that is not bottom of the barrel, in other words this is a problem specifically effecting servers with small populations.

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