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    Here's come crazy idea I have come up with, while fiddling with Axel's build:

    TWF Daggers
    Radiant 32 (aura) / Vistany 24 (crit profile) / Falconry 24 (wis to hit/damage)
    Vistany makes holy sword unnecessary, so Animal Domain for extra HP, reflex and bear charge (!)
    Follover of Blood of Vol - for daggers, though Onatar is probably better (10 mp / +3 tactical DC)

    Class distribution:
    Since we don't have AP for capstone, we can add some other classes.
    - 2 levels of Monk for Evasion and Ocean Stance seems good.
    - Maybe 3 or so Paladin levels for saves.

    Destiny:
    Primal Avatar if you want that wisdom for DCs, otherwise LD

    Code:
    18/2 Cleric/Monk
    Lawful Good Human
    
    Level Order
    
    1. Cleric          6. Monk           11. Cleric         16. Cleric
    2. Cleric          7. Cleric         12. Cleric         17. Monk
    3. Cleric          8. Cleric         13. Cleric         18. Cleric
    4. Cleric          9. Cleric         14. Cleric         19. Cleric
    5. Cleric         10. Cleric         15. Cleric         20. Cleric
    
    Stats
                   32pt     36pt     Tome     Level Up
                   ----     ----     ----     --------
    Strength         8        8                4: WIS
    Dexterity       14       14       +3       8: WIS
    Constitution    14       14               12: WIS
    Intelligence    10       10               16: WIS
    Wisdom          18       18               20: WIS
    Charisma        10       14               24: WIS
                                              28: WIS
    
    
    Skills
              C  C  C  C  C  M  C  C  C  C  C  C  C  C  C  C  M  C  C  C
              1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
             ------------------------------------------------------------
    Concent   4  1  1  1  1     1  2  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1     1  2  1  23
    Balance   2  ?  ?  ?  ?  4        ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  5        1  18
    UMD       2  ?  ?  ?  ?     1  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?     1  ?     11
    Tumble                   1                                             1
             ------------------------------------------------------------
             12  3  3  3  3  5  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  5  3  3  3
    
    
    Feats
    
     1        : Empower Healing Spell
     1 Human  : Quicken Spell
     3        : Maximize Spell
     6        : Adept of Forms
     6 Monk   : Two Weapon Fighting
     9        : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    12        : Improved Critical: Piercing
    15        : Master of Forms
    17 Monk   : Precision
    18        : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
    24 Epic   : Grandmaster of Forms
    26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    27 Epic   : Child of: The Blood of Vol
    28 Destiny: Mass Frog
    29 Destiny: Dire Charge
    30 Epic   : Beloved of: The Blood of Vol
    30 Legend : Scion of: Astral Plane
    
     2 Cleric : Animal Domain
    
     1 Deity  : Follower of: The Blood of Vol
     6 Deity  : The Blood is The Life
    
    
    Enhancements (80+1 AP)
    
    Radiant Servant (32 AP)
        • Healing Domain, Pacifism, Positive Energy Burst, Improved Empower Healing
             1. Extra Turning III, Wand Mastery III, Altruism III
             2. Improved Turning I
             3. Intense Healing III, Wisdom
             4. Endless Turning I, Incredible Healing II, Wisdom
             5. Positive Energy Aura
    
    Falconry (24 AP)
        • Falcon, Wisdom, Well Rounded
             1. Rugged I, Out in Nature III
             2. Killer Instinct I, Watch the Center III, Diving Strike I, Sprint Boost I
             3. Killer Instinct II, Strike for the Eyes: Strike I, Conditioning
             4. Deadly Instinct II, Coordinated Strike, Expose Weakness
    
    Vistani Knife Fighter (24 AP)
        • Knife Expertise, Knife Juggler, Knife Specialist, One With Blades
             1. Vistani Knife Training, Undead Hunter, Mist Stalker, Rapid Attack
             2. Vistani Knife Training, Haste Boost III
             3. Vistani Knife Training, Deadly Blades, Wisdom
             4. Celerity, Double Daggers
    
    Human (1 AP)
        • Damage Boost
    
    
    Destiny (24 AP)
    
    Primal Avatar
       1. Rejuvenation Cocoon II, Wisdom
       2. Seeking Balance III, Wisdom
       3. Balanced Attacks III, Wisdom
       4. Symetric Strikes, Wisdom
       5. Wisdom
       6. Nature's Fury: Critical Multiplier, Wisdom
    
    Twists of Fate (26 fate points)
       1. Sense Weakness (Tier 4 Fury)
       2. Renewal (Tier 3 Sentinel)
       3. Legendary Tactics (Tier 1 Dreadnought)
       4. Stealthy (Tier 1 Shadowdancer)

    Itembuild draft:

    lacks:
    - melee alacrity (can take Blinding speed instead)
    - insightful wisdom (maybe LGS stat stick dagger in off hand?)
    - insightful charisma (can do fine without)

    Set 1: Silent Avenger (cloak, belt, outfit)
    Set 2: Adherent of the Mists
    Gloves: Molten Silver Gauntlets (doublestrike 23, armor-piercing 32, deadly 16)
    Goggles: Legendary Symphonic Lenses (19 CHA, Mobility)
    Bracers: Legendary Bracers of the Fallen Hero (Ins.Con+9, Stunning +22, QPRR+12)
    Neck: Legendary Dawn's Herald-Charm (Wisdom+19)
    Trinket: Hands of the Dawn Healer (devotion+208, healing lore 30%, heal+22, magical eff. 10%) OR Echo of Ravenkind (CON+20, Improved Deception)
    Off-Set:
    Helm: Legendary Executioner's Helm (seeker, ins.deception+7, quality combat mastery +4)
    Ring1: Ring of Silver Tongue (assassinate 9+4ins)
    Ring2: Legendary Ring of Prowess
    Boots: Many-Hooked Greaves (vertigo+20, ins.Combat Mastery+7)

    augments: globe, resistance 8, constitution 8, ins.wisdom+2, ...

    Hmm, it's really hard to fit in 2 sets along with both Stunnig and Vertigo, maybe I should go with Warforged/Crypt Rider, to free belt slot for Vistani Fighter's Sash.
    Last edited by magaiti; 03-13-2019 at 08:44 PM.

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    I'm currently playing with a Favored Soul 14/Ranger 6 Vistani build. The favored soul levels give me the Wis to hit and damage on the daggers. Works quite well.

    On a different subject - I'm thinking a cleric with the new Inquisitor tree. Just for that real Spanish Inquisition feel ("Nobody expects the Spanish inquisition!")

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    Quote Originally Posted by magaiti View Post
    Boots: Many-Hooked Greaves (vertigo+20, ins.Combat Mastery+7)

    Hmm, it's really hard to fit in 2 sets along with both Stunnig and Vertigo, maybe I should go with Warforged/Crypt Rider, to free belt slot for Vistani Fighter's Sash.
    Why do you need vertigo? And if you're going to get work on your stunning DC for Dire Charge, might as well get the feat Stunning Fist too.
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    This really seems like a less effective variant on a Favored Soul build. You could get Wisdom to hit/damage/trance from War Soul without spending 20+ AP. You get +10 hit points per level as part of Favored Soul. Feral Charge is nice, I suppose - but you've got all sorts of spellcasting that can be used to CC. Moreover, if your primary concern is healing, BoH is generally a lot better than Radiant Servant. You're not even getting the benefit of Plate Armor due to those Monk levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by magaiti View Post
    Here's come crazy idea I have come up with, while fiddling with Axel's build:

    TWF Daggers
    Radiant 32 (aura) / Vistany 24 (crit profile) / Falconry 24 (wis to hit/damage)
    Vistany makes holy sword unnecessary, so Animal Domain for extra HP, reflex and bear charge (!)
    Follover of Blood of Vol - for daggers, though Onatar is probably better (10 mp / +3 tactical DC)

    Class distribution:
    Since we don't have AP for capstone, we can add some other classes.
    - 2 levels of Monk for Evasion and Ocean Stance seems good.
    - Maybe 3 or so Paladin levels for saves.

    Destiny:
    Primal Avatar if you want that wisdom for DCs, otherwise LD

    Code:
    18/2 Cleric/Monk
    Lawful Good Human
    
    Level Order
    
    1. Cleric          6. Monk           11. Cleric         16. Cleric
    2. Cleric          7. Cleric         12. Cleric         17. Monk
    3. Cleric          8. Cleric         13. Cleric         18. Cleric
    4. Cleric          9. Cleric         14. Cleric         19. Cleric
    5. Cleric         10. Cleric         15. Cleric         20. Cleric
    
    Stats
                   32pt     36pt     Tome     Level Up
                   ----     ----     ----     --------
    Strength         8        8                4: WIS
    Dexterity       14       14       +3       8: WIS
    Constitution    14       14               12: WIS
    Intelligence    10       10               16: WIS
    Wisdom          18       18               20: WIS
    Charisma        10       14               24: WIS
                                              28: WIS
    
    
    Skills
              C  C  C  C  C  M  C  C  C  C  C  C  C  C  C  C  M  C  C  C
              1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
             ------------------------------------------------------------
    Concent   4  1  1  1  1     1  2  1  1  1  1  1  1  1  1     1  2  1  23
    Balance   2  ?  ?  ?  ?  4        ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  5        1  18
    UMD       2  ?  ?  ?  ?     1  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?  ?     1  ?     11
    Tumble                   1                                             1
             ------------------------------------------------------------
             12  3  3  3  3  5  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  3  5  3  3  3
    
    
    Feats
    
     1        : Empower Healing Spell
     1 Human  : Quicken Spell
     3        : Maximize Spell
     6        : Adept of Forms
     6 Monk   : Two Weapon Fighting
     9        : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    12        : Improved Critical: Piercing
    15        : Master of Forms
    17 Monk   : Precision
    18        : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    21 Epic   : Overwhelming Critical
    24 Epic   : Grandmaster of Forms
    26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    27 Epic   : Child of: The Blood of Vol
    28 Destiny: Mass Frog
    29 Destiny: Dire Charge
    30 Epic   : Beloved of: The Blood of Vol
    30 Legend : Scion of: Astral Plane
    
     2 Cleric : Animal Domain
    
     1 Deity  : Follower of: The Blood of Vol
     6 Deity  : The Blood is The Life
    
    
    Enhancements (80+1 AP)
    
    Radiant Servant (32 AP)
        • Healing Domain, Pacifism, Positive Energy Burst, Improved Empower Healing
             1. Extra Turning III, Wand Mastery III, Altruism III
             2. Improved Turning I
             3. Intense Healing III, Wisdom
             4. Endless Turning I, Incredible Healing II, Wisdom
             5. Positive Energy Aura
    
    Falconry (24 AP)
        • Falcon, Wisdom, Well Rounded
             1. Rugged I, Out in Nature III
             2. Killer Instinct I, Watch the Center III, Diving Strike I, Sprint Boost I
             3. Killer Instinct II, Strike for the Eyes: Strike I, Conditioning
             4. Deadly Instinct II, Coordinated Strike, Expose Weakness
    
    Vistani Knife Fighter (24 AP)
        • Knife Expertise, Knife Juggler, Knife Specialist, One With Blades
             1. Vistani Knife Training, Undead Hunter, Mist Stalker, Rapid Attack
             2. Vistani Knife Training, Haste Boost III
             3. Vistani Knife Training, Deadly Blades, Wisdom
             4. Celerity, Double Daggers
    
    Human (1 AP)
        • Damage Boost
    
    
    Destiny (24 AP)
    
    Primal Avatar
       1. Rejuvenation Cocoon II, Wisdom
       2. Seeking Balance III, Wisdom
       3. Balanced Attacks III, Wisdom
       4. Symetric Strikes, Wisdom
       5. Wisdom
       6. Nature's Fury: Critical Multiplier, Wisdom
    
    Twists of Fate (26 fate points)
       1. Sense Weakness (Tier 4 Fury)
       2. Renewal (Tier 3 Sentinel)
       3. Legendary Tactics (Tier 1 Dreadnought)
       4. Stealthy (Tier 1 Shadowdancer)

    Itembuild draft:

    lacks:
    - melee alacrity (can take Blinding speed instead)
    - insightful wisdom (maybe LGS stat stick dagger in off hand?)
    - insightful charisma (can do fine without)

    Set 1: Silent Avenger (cloak, belt, outfit)
    Set 2: Adherent of the Mists
    Gloves: Molten Silver Gauntlets (doublestrike 23, armor-piercing 32, deadly 16)
    Goggles: Legendary Symphonic Lenses (19 CHA, Mobility)
    Bracers: Legendary Bracers of the Fallen Hero (Ins.Con+9, Stunning +22, QPRR+12)
    Neck: Legendary Dawn's Herald-Charm (Wisdom+19)
    Trinket: Hands of the Dawn Healer (devotion+208, healing lore 30%, heal+22, magical eff. 10%) OR Echo of Ravenkind (CON+20, Improved Deception)
    Off-Set:
    Helm: Legendary Executioner's Helm (seeker, ins.deception+7, quality combat mastery +4)
    Ring1: Ring of Silver Tongue (assassinate 9+4ins)
    Ring2: Legendary Ring of Prowess
    Boots: Many-Hooked Greaves (vertigo+20, ins.Combat Mastery+7)

    augments: globe, resistance 8, constitution 8, ins.wisdom+2, ...

    Hmm, it's really hard to fit in 2 sets along with both Stunnig and Vertigo, maybe I should go with Warforged/Crypt Rider, to free belt slot for Vistani Fighter's Sash.
    Monk levels are to far apart. Get evasion earlier, especially if you're going skulls up through heroics.

    Why take both stunning and vertigo? Just take Combat and Ins. Combat Mastery and cover all of it.

    Gear seems like a hot mess.

    You're going up Falconry for wisdom to-hit/damage for a concept. You're losing out on 35% or greater of your DPS from Vistani for? If it is for destroying undead and for turning with Death Domain or something else I could understand a little better. You're taking animal form for moar HPs and fort bypass.

    FvS 14/6 monk or (15/3 monk/2 Pally) monk would probably be a better split to be honest. It's going to do the same thing minus animal charge clicky and some fort bypass. Would have better saves, better DPS, better survivability, bigger SP pool.

    Looks like good flavor, but I'm not sure about it otherwise.

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