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    Default Soulrazor

    Soulrazor
    Aasimar scourge
    18/2 ranger monk
    Lawful neutral

    Str 8
    Dex 15 8
    Con 16 10
    Int 10 2
    Wis 20 16 +7
    Cha 8 0
    +8 tomes
    +2 completionist

    1 ranger wf slash
    3 ranger completionist
    4 monk whirling steel strike
    5 monk zen archery
    6 ranger adept of forms
    9 ranger knights training
    12 ranger ic slash (swap to CE for epics)
    15 ranger master of forms
    18 ranger gmof

    21 oc
    24 quicken
    26 PTWF
    27 precision
    28 mass frog
    29 dire charge
    30 astral
    Imp martial arts

    Ap
    43 tempest
    26 falconry
    1 (8) scourge
    10 shintao

    destiny grandmaster of flowers, or divine crusader

    Gear
    Gear executioners helm prot8 mythic1
    Neck Fleetfoot draconic
    Goggles cc accuracy23 conc22 inswis7 festivewis2
    Trinket cc dodge15 doublestrike17 insstun8
    Body disciple def16 mythic2
    Cloak of Strahd
    Bracers lore fueled goodluck2 mythic3
    Belt braided mythic1
    Ring1 slavers con17 resist14 qwis4 reaperprr3
    Ring2 pinnacle globe of true blood
    Boots flightfoot cha7 reapermrr3
    Gloves crumbling flaselife40 mythic1
    Dual soulrazors

    Notes
    So I was trying to build a tempest
    Wanted a dex tempest, but read the boards
    Not many ranger builds there
    And someone was talking falconry tempest
    So then I was thinking
    The gear set is copy paste from my 30 duality monk
    That's what I'm familiar with
    So I thought I could build a tempest monk
    Was originally going to use vulkoor scimis
    But that doesn't work, won't be centered
    So then I thought, since I'm running a ranger monk now, longswords
    So that means soulrazor. Need a blackrazor, gem and 5 schisms. Times two. Of which I have no schisms
    So this is my theory build ranger monk
    I know how monk plays. I didn't want to rebuild gear for a kta pure dex ranger. But I could splash 2 monk, get the stances, and go longswords.
    So this is my ranger monk. Dual wielding soulrazors.
    If I could ever build it, it would take me months to farm the schisms. I don't even have one. But I do have a blackrazor and gem. Would have to farm another.
    I think this is a winner. Mass frog and ein, and about a 96 wisdom?
    It all fits together. It uses my monk gear so I don't have to farm. Just the schisms.
    I offer this up to the community, maybe someone will get inspired.

    This is what I do with downtime...
    Last edited by Vish; 02-24-2019 at 12:19 PM. Reason: Ap change and feat swap! Also ed
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    Default like the idea...one comment though

    Vish,

    Whirling Steel Strike requires weapon focus: slashing, so you will have to take that at Ranger 1 for the rest of the feats to work as planned....this build does not really need the dodge feat...you will be dodge capped NP without it.

    I am running a nearly identical build, in low epics right now with dual Oathblades, but running in Divine Crusader, twisting in Piercing Clarity and Sense Weakness. In DC, Oathblades are 14-20, X4, 19-20, x5. Lots and lots of Crits. Having a lot of fun with the build.
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    Ya,
    I knew I missed something after I looked it
    I was gonna fix it, but waited to see if anybody caught it
    Fixed

    Ya, this looks like an elegant synergistic build
    I would like to run it to cap perhaps
    Need to get aasimar scourge
    Almost have the points
    But I'm gonna farm Sharn off my duality monk
    I'll need 10 schisms and I don't have one yet
    Have been running racials
    When Sharn drops the raid scene on Sarlona will pick back up
    So really this is a few months down the road for me
    Looks like a fun build
    I'm running ranger monk now for elf lives
    Works out pretty nice
    And it uses same gear set as my duality monk,
    So I don't have to farm anything
    Thx
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    I'm a bit baffled at why you'd take 2 Monk on this build. You don't need Deft Strikes and while the Forms are nice, they don't compensate for the Tempest capstone you can't take. Investing all those AP in becoming Wis-based also means you don't have +1 to threat range from DWS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hjarki View Post
    I'm a bit baffled at why you'd take 2 Monk on this build. You don't need Deft Strikes and while the Forms are nice, they don't compensate for the Tempest capstone you can't take. Investing all those AP in becoming Wis-based also means you don't have +1 to threat range from DWS.
    Same, i don't understand why you took 2 monk either, I mean... If you want the stances, you only need 1 monk level for that, then you could take 1 of something else, but even then... It wouldn't offset not having the capstone, unless of course you are taking the 1 monk for more survivability based off of water stance.

    I also would advise that you NEVER EVER max a stat, unless you are playing a DC caster, or thrower build. Simply because the ROI isn't worth it. You are spending 6 action points for the last 2 in a stat, where as you could have spent those 6 stat points into intelligence for example, more skill points is always handy, or even 6 points into dexterity, more reflex save, more survivability... Even 6 extra strength would be more beneficial than those last 2 wisdom, as this would prohibit you from becoming uncentered due to being overweight from having lots of loot, or being hit by enfeeblement. Never max a stat, unless you are playing a DC caster, or a thrower build.

    Further more... Completionist is honestly a super terrible feat for anything that isn't a DC caster or thrower. As you are literally wasting a feat slot for +2 to all stats. That feat slot could be a weapon focus, it could be going towards spring attack, as that requires dodge and mobility, it could be going towards anything more beneficial honestly...

    Why did you take zen archery? https://ddowiki.com/page/Martial_arts_feats You could be using this feat to go towards spring attack... Hell... Iron will would be better than zen archery. As I am assuming that you will be using longswords..
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    Quote Originally Posted by banjo174 View Post
    Same, i don't understand why you took 2 monk either, I mean... If you want the stances, you only need 1 monk level for that, then you could take 1 of something else, but even then... It wouldn't offset not having the capstone, unless of course you are taking the 1 monk for more survivability based off of water stance.

    I also would advise that you NEVER EVER max a stat, unless you are playing a DC caster, or thrower build. Simply because the ROI isn't worth it. You are spending 6 action points for the last 2 in a stat, where as you could have spent those 6 stat points into intelligence for example, more skill points is always handy, or even 6 points into dexterity, more reflex save, more survivability... Even 6 extra strength would be more beneficial than those last 2 wisdom, as this would prohibit you from becoming uncentered due to being overweight from having lots of loot, or being hit by enfeeblement. Never max a stat, unless you are playing a DC caster, or a thrower build.

    Further more... Completionist is honestly a super terrible feat for anything that isn't a DC caster or thrower. As you are literally wasting a feat slot for +2 to all stats. That feat slot could be a weapon focus, it could be going towards spring attack, as that requires dodge and mobility, it could be going towards anything more beneficial honestly...

    Why did you take zen archery? https://ddowiki.com/page/Martial_arts_feats You could be using this feat to go towards spring attack... Hell... Iron will would be better than zen archery. As I am assuming that you will be using longswords..
    This is not a dex ranger in light armor with a scimi and flow
    This is a ranger monk build with dual longswords, soulrazor
    That's 9w each hand. 25% dps increase

    Like I said I've run a duality monk
    I've not run a dex ranger, it didn't build too good
    And I don't have the gear for a dex ranger, yet
    And like I said, this is a theory build
    I usually build something then test it
    I don't have the gear to test a dex ranger
    Hell, I don't have the soulrazors either
    But it's an aspiration build

    And banjo,
    I can't really believe your advise
    Of course you max your primary stat
    I said I think I can get a 96 wisdom on this build
    Why would you not want to max your to hit, damage, AC and DCs?
    Seems like you don't know what you're talking about
    Do you even build?
    I haven't seen you posting any
    And I'm completionist
    Put it on all my builds
    It buffs wis, dex, con on this build. As well as other three
    Who needs spring attack? You play end game?
    Moving modifier is negligible, even if your twitching
    And I stand and dps, not a twitcher, so it's not my style
    And it's still a ranger,
    So to stay centered with longbows on a monk you need zen archery
    It's a utility feat

    So there's no way I'd take your advice
    Sounds like you don't know what you're talking about
    There's art,
    And there's art critiques
    One creates the masterpiece
    The other tears it down
    Like I said, I've never seen any of your builds
    I build based on my experience
    Some things look good on paper,
    But don't play well
    This is a theory,
    But my gut tells me it will perform

    Eventually I'll test it and write it up
    Prob also along with a dex ranger in light
    But I have to farm a lot of raids to do that,
    So like I said its down the road

    Other thing,
    Ppl who don't post their toon name, or server, or guild
    Kinda suspect when taking advise
    Lurkers everywhere
    And I don't believe em, or trust em
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vish View Post
    SoulrazorMass frog and ein, and about a 96 wisdom?
    Can you break down your 96 wisdom?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thrudh View Post
    Can you break down your 96 wisdom?
    Here was my breakdown from my 101 monk,
    In theory crafting the celestial monk, in monk

    Wisdom breakdown
    20 starting aasimar
    7 level ups
    20 necklace
    7 insightful, goggles
    4 qual, ring
    2 bird man
    2 aasimar
    2 racial past life human aasimar
    6 gmof
    2 festive wisdom
    6 tomes, +7 wisdom
    1 exceptional from globe
    2 completionist
    4 Grandmaster of water
    2 profane disciple
    4 reaper
    2 Shintao
    94
    Short 6?


    Missing
    2 reaper helm...
    2 racial completionist
    1 8 tomes
    ? Filagree
    1 more reaper tree
    2 slavers sorc

    Notes
    Not sure why I'm short 7 points. That's everything off top of my head. Because I have 97 standing, 100 in reaper. I'll have to doublecheck everything.

    Edit
    Have a +7 wis tome. So 94. Still short 6. Checked everything. What I listed seems to be it. Haven't taken off all gear and rechecked. That's last thing to check.


    Thruhd notes
    I recall I forgot the capstone, which is +4 wisdom.
    But I had a 101 on that monk build,
    So basically I assumed 100, less the monk capstone,
    For a 96

    I think I was running a +1 wisdom filagree?
    Sorry it's been some months since I ran that build
    Difference is now I also got +8 tomes, so another +1

    But there is a missing +2 in there somewhere, ie I'm short 2 from my calcs
    I don't have racial completionist either yet, so it's not that
    But that would add another +2
    So I could see a 103 or 104

    Oh ya and maybe only a 94, since I won't have a +2 from Shintao
    But clan bastage said he pulled a 96, but I think he's racial completionist,
    Which would make up the diff
    I'm assuming with gear loadout same as my monk,
    I should hit a 94 then

    Doublecheck the monk thread, I think I said some other stuff too
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    Level 24
    La de da. Destroying r1. So this life it's my intention to run all reaper. Other than dailys. But all quest chains will try to be bb with r1. I usually take what I can get when I'm pugging, but it seems the population can handle r1. And of course those I lead will be r1.
    24 holding 25. Have run von1-4, c1c2 motu some hit and miss misc r4 with the knights. I don't really care for anything over r3 for melee, but the knights are a vet group. It just takes longer. And higher skulls is really where this build shines. Outstanding dps, great defense, cure spells and healing hands. Make for a very good melee support toon, specially since they don't have a dedicated cleric or healer. Just like arti or bard for support. But in the higher skulls, I've been saving asses with healing hands. I'm sure this will play at cap just like my aasimar monk. Can self heal even in high reaper.
    That's the benefit of doing wisdom on a ranger, you get a maxxed spell pool. And Csw and Cmw are so cheap it's like an endless supply.
    Otherwise, tearing it up. Only changes I made was to swap chieftain for pinnacle, so I have some cc. Seeing it proc some of the time.
    Oh ya dps. So my avg hits are like 100-120. Pushing up to over 200 when using zeal and mp boost. Crits are 600-800 avg and happen a lot. So most of my dps is coming off the crit profile. Seeing crits over 1000 on some hits. So good dps. With high attack rate.
    Hp re around 1750, wis is pushing 70.
    No real changes until 28 with some slavers gear. Ravenloft at 29.
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    Default Level 28/29

    Level 28/29
    Was 26 yesterday. So much easier leveling with first time bonuses. I'll def have to do some planning with the rest of my iconics. Like deep gnome to get wiz lives, and maybe more scourge to do some fighter or pally lives. Because I've been making great time on this build. All I did in heroics was gh and wheloon, so everything else is first time bonuses. Running reaper = bookoo xp.
    Got to 28 yesterday. Put on the slavers gear. Which was swap to legendary executioners, the con necklace, wis ring and slavers trinket. Ran some EE dailys and got first time that was big xp gain. I think I'm going to sit on the divine 6m for when I roll my monk thru Sharn. Thought I get a divine pl out of it, but this is iconic, so get the scourge and a ranger. Oh well I wanted to see this build.
    Well I was 26 holding 27, and I wanted to do gh on r1. But got in with group of 30s running EE, so I lost bb? But maybe not since I did it in heroics? Ya. So got first time EE. And did crucible. Never do that unless there's a swimmer in the group. Then did big run of EE dailys, and had enough to take 27, then 28. Then did gh, and ran some more dailys this morning to get to 29.
    29 put on the ravenloft gear. Fleetwood neck, cloak of Strahd, crumbling gloves, braided cutcord, legendary disciple for silent avenger, bracers that give the prr. Oh ya also at 28, legendary prowess. And then flightfoot boots, and slavers con qual wis ring. So I'm still missing 2 pieces at 30. Goggles and trinket. But that should be today. Need to flag ravenloft at r1. That will be all first time. And flag 2 for shroud. And I want to do a EE chrono scope to finish my coin lord favor. Sitting 149 out of 150 needed. Doh. Can also do storm horns for first time. And grim chain. Prob do those mid reapers.
    So some numbers. I have 1700 hp, around 2250 reaper. 196 AC, still 41 dodge. I'm running CE. Also, when I put on the 30 gear, I'll put on lpinnacle and that'll give me adherents. Was at 180 prr. So 200, or 220 if I twist improved CE. Also astral will give me 4 more dodge, and I'll reset my grim for max mdb. I think mobility only gives mdb to light, not no armor. So off 2 there. But 41+4+1 more reaper should see 46. And wis is at 85. Got the 20 got the qual, got +4 on the goggles as is. Will get 3 more at 30 and 3 reaper and 2 festive. So 93. Will likely slot a +1 wis in sentient to even it for raids.
    Weapons. Ran c1 rl with a group earlier level, grabbed the longsword. Then bought another. Bought 10 more toolkits, had 5 needed 6, so swapped out gem and prowess. Still have 3 slots. Could get 15 more mp? A 2 set and a 5 rare? Ya anyway, mp was at 80 something. Sitting. That's with 8 from prowess ring. Will lose that tho. So close to 200 mp boosted. Will have to do. And swords are at 6.5w. So my base dps should go up. Dont know the crit profile didn't look it.
    Picked up CE, frog and dire charge. Charge should be around 120 boosted. Sitting at a little over 100 right now. And frog doesn't show dc. But it should be good enough for r1 baba. Will get astral and precision at 30. So it's building pretty similar stats to my monk. I'm pretty happy.
    Only question is how long to stay at cap? I don't know when Sharn will drop, sometime April? They haven't done loot or quests yet on lamannia, and prob get the preorder end of this month. I'm sitting at 59 reaper with about 50k to next point. Could do some high reaper runs and get in some raids. Maybe a week or so? I had a dwarf ek sitting on the docket, so I get could get another +1 con. That would take prob 10 days. But I also want to reroll into aasimar monk for Sharn, so that's like 2 weeks. So maybe a week at cap here, raid some, burn some timers, and get another rxp, and then reroll into monk. I want to farm for the belt out of wrath, and a couple scimis from toxic treatment. For an eventually pure ranger tempest. So I got a few things to run. I'll have to see how this build performs mid reaper. And see when Sharn drops. So max couple weeks likely. After tie fling, I will still have 13 lives to go for racial, that's still another six months. But I'll prob stay on monk at cap for Sharn for couple months, and farm that. So that's my plan.
    Ok enough for now, will post stats at 30.
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    Default Level 30 reaper stats

    Level 30
    Reaper
    Astral, edf, CE
    Str 41
    Dex 64
    Con 64
    Int 30
    Wis 94
    Cha 31
    Hp 2444
    Hamp 95
    Sp 1879
    Pos 193
    Ki 93/270
    AC 212
    Dodge 48/48
    Fort 82
    Reflex 99
    Will 93
    Bab 24/30
    Doublestrike 59
    Melee speed 15
    Melee power 83
    Sr 0
    Fort 218
    Prr 237
    Mrr 50

    Gear
    Helm executioners prot8
    Neck Fleetfoot draconic topaz250
    Eyes cc acc23 conc22 inswis7 festivewis2
    Trinket cc doublestrike17 dodge15 insstun8
    Body disciple def16
    Cloak of Strahd
    Bracers fallen hero goodluck2
    Belt braided cutcord
    Ring1 slavers con17 resist14 qualwis4
    Ring2 pinnacle true blood
    Boots flightfoot cha7
    Gloves crumbling falselife40
    Morninglord longsword 6.5w 16-20 x4 +124/+91 +124/+70

    Ap
    9 aasimar
    8 Shintao
    8 ninja
    41 tempest
    23 falconry

    Ap
    6 dread
    12 dire
    41 grim

    Twists
    3 haste
    2 power
    2 imp CE
    1 extra boosts
    1 dance

    Notes
    10 action boosts. Haste, mp, and run speed. Also 5 killer instinct and 4 reaper doublestrike.
    Melee power max is 83+50+50+30 or 213
    Doublestrike max is over 100 for 30 sec.
    Dodge is gravy at 48. Prr is gravy at 237. AC is good at 212.
    Dps. Didn't get real numbers on this yet. But it's good.
    Was 29. Ran a da and an en von3 and ate about 4k gem to cap. Early in day I ran c2-3 ravenloft and that took me almost to 30.
    Put on the goggles and trinket.
    Stepped into r1 mist to record the stats.
    Then a lfm came up for r6 curse the sky. Had 10k fvs. A finger warlock, a monk, and a first lifer fighter and rogue. Most stuff was instakill, went pretty smooth. Only died once by a 1 save on a wail. Kited malicia while they cleared the room, and then tanked her with healing support. Was impressed at defense on this build. Dps wasn't best but it was r6. Cycled boosts and sacred ground, stood there had aggro and took her down. Excellent healing, didn't die.
    Then ran slime kobold quest too at r6. Again I tanked the demon and end boss kobold. Didn't die once. Pulled like 5k rxp each with first time bonus. Flagged for shroud. Used duality for the slimes. 10w.
    built out exactly as planned. 64 dex 64 con 94 wisdom. Good stats. Good saves. Reset grim and took capstone.
    Only thing I'm missing is feather fall. Will buy a gem and slot in cloak.
    Definately a killer build.
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