MAX INT on a Wizard

[Mellkor]

Well, here is the breakdown for highest INT on a Wizard. (Not necessarily the most optimal, in fact, higher DC's are possible with lower INT.)

I will update this as new stuff comes out. If I am missing anything, please let me know.

INT BREAKDOWN Deep Gnome in Lich Form:

Base: 20
Level Ups: 7
Tome: 8
Completionist: 2
Racial Completionist: 2
Racial PL: 2
Enhancements: 15 (42 points in Pale Master, 24 points in Harper, 14 points in Archmage, 12 points in Deep Gnome, in Lich form)
Destinies: 11 (6 in Magister, 5 twists)
Equipment Bonus: 20
Insightful Bonus: 9
Quality Bonus: 4
Filigrees: 9
Exceptional Bonus: 1
Reaper Tree: 1
Profane Bonus: 2
Festival Bonus: 2
Artifact Bonus: 2
Yugo Potion: 2
Lasting Elixir: 2
Ship Buffs: 2
Epic Feats: 4
Reaper Hat: 2

Sustainable INT: 129

In Reaper quests +4

Reaper Sustainable INT: 133

Bard 2
House D pot 3
Abashai Cookies 4

Maximum INT: 140


That said, you can actually have higher Spell DC's as follows: (my set up, yours may vary )

For filigrees (+9 INT above) you can instead have the Eye of the Beholder 4 piece set and Otto's 4 piece set for +4 to DC's and +4 to INT (Eye of the Beholder/Inevitable Grave +2 INT filigree, Eye of the Beholder +1 INT filigree and Otto's +1 INT filigree) for a net difference of +2 DC's and -5 INT over the MAX INT setup.

That's 124 INT and +2 DC's to all spells over the MAX INT set up

Epic Feats in the MAX INT setup is 4 INT;
Instead use one of these feats for the Embolden Spell feat for +2 to DC's (a no brainer as +2 DC's is the same as +4 INT). This is a net difference of +2 DC's and -1 INT over the MAX INT setup.

That plus the above filigree change puts you at 123 INT and +4 DC's to all spells over the MAX INT setup.

Enhancements: 15 INT in the MAX INT setup (+8 INT from Palemaster, +4 INT from Harper, +2 INT from Deep Gnome, +1 from Archmage)

Instead, spend 12 points in Harper for +2 INT instead of +4 INT as in the MAX INT setup, and spend those points in the Deep Gnome and Archmage trees to gain: +3 DC's to Illusion DC's in Deep Gnome, +3 spell pen in Archmage, +1 Illusion DC in Archmage, PK SLA in Archmage, Displacement SLA in Archmage, and another +1 INT in Archmage. This nets +4 Illusion DC's and -1 INT from the MAX INT setup.

This plus the aforementioned changes puts you at 122 INT with a total net change of +4 DC's to all spells plus an additional +4 DC's to Illusion DC's over the MAX INT setup. (DC bonuses to a secondary school (instead of Illusion) is possible depending on your setup).


Max Sustainable INT while also having MAX DC's: 122

[Arkat]

Artifact Bonus? From what?

[kain741]

Artifact Bonus? From what?

From 5 piece slave lord set.

[Yamani]

Artifact Bonus? From what?

5 piece slave lords?

[Arkat]

Well, no wonder I don't know. I've never even made ANY sort of Slave Lords set!

[Zretch]

What about the reaper hat bonus? (Pan Circlet Reaper bonus) for +2

[mikarddo]

Would +2 exceptional be possible from LGS or does slot placement prevent that?

[Mellkor]

Oh yes. reaper hat bonus is doable, Thanks! OP edited.

as to the +2 exceptional, it only comes on greensteel. So it ends up being a wash, as +20 int only comes on the strahd orb (which you would have to replace with the GS item in the off hand and put +19 INT item elsewhere). If another +20 item comes out in a different slot, it might work.

[Mellkor]

Some people asked me via PM to explain how lowering INT actually nets higher DCs.

Info added to the OP...

[shores11]

This is a very helpful thread thanks.

[ChemE]

Several new additions with sharn. Both orbs can add +5 quality and +10 insightful and the black velvet capelet adds +21 intel along with greater boon, profane well rounded +2 and insightful negative healing amp. the 3 piece dreadkeeper set from sharn docks also adds +4 artifact bonus to intel and a bunch of other stuff. I can push my unbuffed Necro DC to 122 with over 1000 negative spell power.

[redoubt]

A couple updates I noticed with Sharn and Soul gear:

Well, here is the breakdown for highest INT on a Wizard. (Not necessarily the most optimal, in fact, higher DC's are possible with lower INT.)

I will update this as new stuff comes out. If I am missing anything, please let me know.

INT BREAKDOWN Deep Gnome in Lich Form:

Base: 20
Level Ups: 7
Tome: 8
Completionist: 2
Racial Completionist: 2
Racial PL: 2
Enhancements: 15 (42 points in Pale Master, 24 points in Harper, 14 points in Archmage, 12 points in Deep Gnome, in Lich form)
Destinies: 11 (6 in Magister, 5 twists)
Equipment Bonus: 20 -- 22
Insightful Bonus: 9 -- 10
Quality Bonus: 4 -- 5
Filigrees: 9 -- 11
Exceptional Bonus: 1
Reaper Tree: 1
Profane Bonus: 2
Festival Bonus: 2
Artifact Bonus: 2
Yugo Potion: 2
Lasting Elixir: 2
Ship Buffs: 2
Epic Feats: 4
Reaper Hat: 2

Sustainable INT: 129 135

In Reaper quests +4

Reaper Sustainable INT: 133 139

Bard 2
House D pot 3
Abashai Cookies 4

Maximum INT: 140 146

All that said, Melkors comments below are still spot on.

That said, you can actually have higher Spell DC's as follows: (my set up, yours may vary )

For filigrees (+9 INT above) you can instead have the Eye of the Beholder 4 piece set and Otto's 4 piece set for +4 to DC's and +4 to INT (Eye of the Beholder/Inevitable Grave +2 INT filigree, Eye of the Beholder +1 INT filigree and Otto's +1 INT filigree) for a net difference of +2 DC's and -5 INT over the MAX INT setup.

That's 124 INT and +2 DC's to all spells over the MAX INT set up

Epic Feats in the MAX INT setup is 4 INT;
Instead use one of these feats for the Embolden Spell feat for +2 to DC's (a no brainer as +2 DC's is the same as +4 INT). This is a net difference of +2 DC's and -1 INT over the MAX INT setup.

That plus the above filigree change puts you at 123 INT and +4 DC's to all spells over the MAX INT setup.

Enhancements: 15 INT in the MAX INT setup (+8 INT from Palemaster, +4 INT from Harper, +2 INT from Deep Gnome, +1 from Archmage)

Instead, spend 12 points in Harper for +2 INT instead of +4 INT as in the MAX INT setup, and spend those points in the Deep Gnome and Archmage trees to gain: +3 DC's to Illusion DC's in Deep Gnome, +3 spell pen in Archmage, +1 Illusion DC in Archmage, PK SLA in Archmage, Displacement SLA in Archmage, and another +1 INT in Archmage. This nets +4 Illusion DC's and -1 INT from the MAX INT setup.

This plus the aforementioned changes puts you at 122 INT with a total net change of +4 DC's to all spells plus an additional +4 DC's to Illusion DC's over the MAX INT setup. (DC bonuses to a secondary school (instead of Illusion) is possible depending on your setup).


Max Sustainable INT while also having MAX DC's: 122

[SirValentine]

A couple updates I noticed with Sharn and Soul gear:

It should be 12 from filigree, not 11, since one of them can be the +2 Int "raid" Eye of the Beholder / Inevitable Grave filigree bought with Threads.

Also, +2 Exceptional was previously excluded due to a conflict with the only +20 Int item on an orb. But since +22 Int now comes from a necklace, that +2 Exceptional is a possibility again.

[Avatar29]

Several new additions with sharn. Both orbs can add +5 quality and +10 insightful and the black velvet capelet adds +21 intel along with greater boon, profane well rounded +2 and insightful negative healing amp. the 3 piece dreadkeeper set from sharn docks also adds +4 artifact bonus to intel and a bunch of other stuff. I can push my unbuffed Necro DC to 122 with over 1000 negative spell power.

3 year delay on this post, but how the heck does Leg Black velvet caplet add 21 intelligence when it only gives +13 and +2 profane.. that would be 15 int not 21...

[Valerianus]

3 year delay on this post, but how the heck does Leg Black velvet caplet add 21 intelligence when it only gives +13 and +2 profane.. that would be 15 int not 21...

because it used to, but after the "stat squish" that happened some updates ago all gear stats were lowered, following a new progression

[Arkat]

3 year delay on this post, but how the heck does Leg Black velvet caplet add 21 intelligence when it only gives +13 and +2 profane.. that would be 15 int not 21...

because it used to, but after the "stat squish" that happened some updates ago all gear stats were lowered, following a new progression

Indeed.

Avatar29, beware of responding to older posts. They may no longer be relevant.