Warforged, Decent Warlocks ?

[SilentRunning]

I looking at buying a Warforged but would like to know if they would be a decent enough race for a warlock. I can see where they can be good for Wizard or Sorcerer in getting repair spells.

Obviously they'd make decent Artificers.


Any help would be appreciated.

[SuperNiCd]

I can't think of any big advantage to running a warlock as warforged. One of the things that makes them nice for sorc/wiz is that you can self-heal via repair spells. But warlocks don't get repair spells. If you're running reaper, I'd say it's a big disadvantage since you can't be healed as well by positive energy spells from other players.

[Pilgrim1]

If you plan to stay at cap for a while you can pick up the lvl 30 feat that gives a reconstruct SLA. With the self healing from that - assuming you invest in repair amp and repair spell power, you should be fine into mid reaper content.

[HungarianRhapsody]

Warforged do make decent warlocks because everyone makes decent warlocks. Temp HP = self healing isn't that big a deal. Heal scrolls and reconstruct scrolls are pretty much the same and there's such a big difference between self healing vs other-healing on reaper that the WF healing penalty isn't significant at that point

I don't think they make BETTER warlocks than any other race aside from the WF immunities, but those are definitely nice.

[spyder7723]

I think the answer entirely depends on the goals. Is it just for the warforged racial lives? Or is it going into epics and starting at 30/grinding motor epic lives?

Imo nothing beats a warlock for soloing 1 to 20 on low skull reaper. and every race does fine for that. However they really fall off once you hit 20. The damage simply isn't there for comfortably soloing epic elite/reaper. At least with out a large investment in gear.

[NemesisAlien]

Try warforge bard

[zyirius]

I looking at buying a Warforged but would like to know if they would be a decent enough race for a warlock. I can see where they can be good for Wizard or Sorcerer in getting repair spells.

Obviously they'd make decent Artificers.


Any help would be appreciated.

Warforged definitely is worth the consideration if you want good PRR and MRR and decent blast dps with your Warlock. Adamantine body combined with fast docent swapping means you can use a caster docent, for a casting dps while maintaining decent PRR and MRR, then very quickly switch to a defensive docent when you are just tanking. With the proper augments and filigree plus the racial ASF reduction you can also wield a large shield for double MRR vs spells with a Reflex save with 0 ASF.

And If you have Bladeforged you can then add the Reconstruct SLA to your healing spell line up for even more self healing without using the legendary feat.

[C-Dog]

I ... would like to know if they would be a decent enough race for a warlock.

Yeah, it all depends what you're asking, what you mean by "decent enough". So, if you're asking...

1) "Will a WF 'lock suck?" - Hell no, locks are so strong that any race will do just fine.

2) "Would WF be an "optimal" or at least "above average" choice for 'lock?" - Of course not, there are better (Human, Drow, Dragonborn are "the best"), and in fact WF would pro'ly be considered below the average. But, seriously, it really doesn't matter, see #1.

3) "Is there an advantage to WF?" Not vis-a-vis being a lock, but locks have all the "advantage" they need. WF do have some innate advantages unrelated to being a lock (mentioned by others above). See #1.

Warlock's "feigned health" enhancement and various other HP buffs (Staunch, etc.) do work around the self-healing issue - don't need to heal if your actual health never takes a hit. But that's true for any race - it's a big part of that response to #1.

Bottom line - if there are reasons you want to run a lock (racial reincarnation, "something different", "I always liked WF", "to prove it's possible", or "just because") - then do it. Otoh, if you want to find an excuse to buy WF, "Warlock" pro'ly isn't going to provide that excuse.

[Jetrule]

Warforged is likely the worst racial choice for warlock. You are likely stuck with composite body the equivalent of robes. Capping at 50 mrr Unless you burn a feat on a body type. At cap you will be about 100 MRR and 50 PRR behind a fleshie warlock with ES as a main or secondary tree. Largely because ES shape vestments and medium armor enhancements which are nice and tanky on any fleshie are useless on forged.

In reapers heal amp is a issue, you need to have spent 3 points in healers friend to be just 20% behind fleshies in heal amp. Unless you have a dedicated buddy or 5 your not going to be getting repaired often by teammates, and only a couple of wiz hires.

Natural composite body arcane spell failure of 5% will have to be compensated for too. Either by spending in the racial tree or taking mithrial body feat which ironically has no arcane spell failure for warlocks. Fleshie warlocks start with light armor proficiency. Forged locks and any other class have to spend a feat to get out of the equivalent of robes. and thier light armor equivalent provides the lowest max dodge bonus lower than many medium armors and all light armors which it otherwise compares to.

They are a low charisma race starting at 16 max with 16 build points spent

The racial tree while not the worst caster or warlock racial tree is not particularly good either.. about middle of the pack.

With all these disadvantages you can still make a entirely playable and potent warlock even with the worst race.