Pure PDK Spellsinger For Cormyr! Max buffs

[IlmerSilverhilt]

Hello everyone, I bring you Mesmerita as she stands going into the Isle of Dread expansion. I just got Racial Completionist on her so stats are a bit up and Ive made my perfect AP layout! She is meant to be a super crowd control character with massive buffs and great healing! 19 points in PDK tree for For Cormyr! buff, its the best partybuff ever! (for me, its a +60% dps increase, bit lower for those real DPSers) You can control your hitpoints with Rose Colored goggles and have your party go to town! Very fun indeed! Single target Freeze for those mobs hard to CC and my Consecration also stuns... Every raidgroup needs a build like this!


Fully boosted for DC in reaper. I ate some cookies to make dump stats even, and that included Abishai too, for the pic (this is without the new +20% competence hitpoints) Need a new pic


Unbuffed

Mesmerita Buffs!

Bardic Ballad (aura):

Inspire Courage:

+1 atk +1 dmg +3 usp lvl1
+1 atk +1 dmg +0 usp lvl8 Soothing Song
+1 atk +1 dmg +3 usp lvl8
+1 atk +1 dmg +3 usp lvl14
+1 atk +1 dmg +3 usp lvl20

+0 atk +1 dmg +0 usp Weapon Training (WC core)
+2 atk +1 dmg +0 usp Song of Heroism (WC core) also 2 saves, Immunity to Fear
+0 atk +1 dmg +0 usp Fighting Spirit (WC core)

+3 atk +0 dmg +0 usp Inspired Bravery (T1 WC)

+0 atk +0 dmg +9 usp Ballad Melody: Recklessness (T4 WC) also 6% doublestrike/-shot

+1 atk +1 dmg +3 usp Splendid Cacophony Filigree, 4 piece (2nd Arte swap)

+1 atk +1 dmg +3 usp Perfected Salt-Pearl Ring

+3 atk +3 dmg +0 usp Great Ballads of War (T4 Fatesinger) also +3 atk +3 dmg +0 usp self
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+15 atk +13 dmg +27 usp total also have Sharp Note (T2 SS) for +3 dmg when using Fascinate
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Inspire Greatness:

+20 temp hp +3 prr +10 heal amp

+00 temp hp +6 prr +00 heal amp Ballad Melody: Ironskin also DR 6

208 temp hp +0 prr +00 heal amp Fighting Spirit (WC core)
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208 temp hp +9 prr +10 heal amp @lvl32 with 104 charisma
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Inspire Transcendance:

+1 DC, +1 Tactics, +3 Spell Resistance

Bardic Inspiration (song):

• Inspire Competence* : +8 skills
• Inspire Heroics* : +5 ac +5 dodge +5 saves
• Spell Song Trance : +1 dc +10% spell discount
• Song of Arcane Might : +1 caster lvl
• Frolic : Freedom of Movement
• Arcane Aid : +3 spell penetration
• Sustaining Song : Heal over time /repair/negative
• Inspire Excellence : +2 ability scores

Songs marked with * benefit from Improved Bardic Music Feat

Illusion: 101
Necromancy: 97
Conjuration: 100
Enchantment: 111
Evocation: 116

BoGW: 120
Consecration: 115
Cut the Strings: 115
Frozen Fury: 112

Above are my DCs with only ship buffs.

Enhancements:

I advise to actually skip, Victory song the lvl18 WC core, because for the time being it suppresses Insp Transcendance buff. When fixed, ditch the Kingly Recovery

Destinies:

I chose to go with the Primal Avatar Mantle, for the added Cocoons! It seems to work of any buff spells too, not just healing - But its random, but nice

Reaper Trees:


Spells:


Feats:
01 Empower Healing Spell, Quicken
03 PL: Wizard (or Toughness)
06 Heighten
09 PL: Bard (or Force of Personality)
12 Improved Bardic Music
15 Spell Focus: Evocation
18 Greater Spell Focus: Evocation
21 Inspire Excellence
22 Lasting Inspiration
24 Burst of Glacial Wrath
25 Tactician
27 Arcane Insight
28 Epic Spell Power: Positive
30 Epic Spell Focus: Evocation
30 Scion of Celestia
31 Spell Specialty: Enchantment

Skills:
Balance(18), Bluff(23), Concentration(23), Diplomacy(23), Heal(11), Intimidate(11), Jump(23), Perform(23), Spot(11), Tumble(1), UMD(23)

Bluff: 123 (ditched my +19 aug)
Diplomacy: 147
Intimidate: 130
Perform: 149

Spellpower: /chance /multiplier
Positive: 634 /59 /40
Sonic: 638 /54 /15

Gear Set:
Weapons: Dinosaur Bone Shortsword / Leg Alchemical Shortsword (Devotion Charisma Resistance)
Armor: Leg Blessed Vestments
Goggles: Attunements Gaze (+3con)
Helm: Leg Unbreakable Stormreach Guardians Helm (with reaper stats)
Neck: Leg Winter Court Necklace
Trinket: Icon of the Bitterwind
Cloak: Leg Hallowed Trail
Belt: Leg Black Satin Waist (+3con)
Ring: Leg Nocturne Ring
Gloves: Gloryborne Gloves (+3con)
Boots: Leg Deepsnow Boots
Ring: Perfected Salt-Pearl Ring or Perfected Salt-Pearl Ring
Bracers: Leg Hallowed Castigators
Quiver: Quiver of Alacrity

(Augment sets)

Starting Stats and the first few levels
18 Charisma 18 Constitution 12 Intelligence. First few AP goes into Spellsinger tree for soundblast SLA. At lvl3 you get songs and should work towards single target Freeze from Warchanter. Once aquired, head back into Spelllsinger tree to improve your songs. Try to take the Warchanter cores as they become available, and take medium armor profficiency at lvl15 for Blessed Vestments. Generally, you want to take the next cure spell as you level up, and for skills, keep Perform and the social skills maxed. The build focuses on Evocation with Enchantment a 2nd option. That is because you can lower mob saves with Hypnotism and Crushing Despair. It requires a +1 Heart to remove the fighter level and you start as lvl15, but it pays off to visit lower level quests for favor rewards. Mainly hitpoints but also all the skills I take pretty much.




Thx for reading!

P.S: Could this work without the Paslives?
Eventhough, I am nealy maxed out with pastlives, I still think this can work even as a firstlifer! You have to choose between Spellsinger Capstone or Warchanter T5s. If we say, we go, for max buffs again, Id take the For Cormyr (19pts), WC T5 6% dmg (33pts) and that leaves 28 points for good Spellsinger Song buffs. Or you could focus on the healing with Spellsinger Capstone: For Cormyr(19), SS Cap(41) and that leaves 20 for some Warchanter stuff. It takes 21pts to get the temp HP aura, so if you only have the base 80 try to get a hold of a +1 racial tome somehow. Your DCs will be lower and youll lack a lot of Spell Penetration from PLs. Your For Cormyr wont be as strong due to lack of charisma, but It'll be worthwhile still and you also will have lower HP, but the builds foundation is still intact, and you could see if it is something for you... Support isnt for everyone, but I think its fun to make your teammates stronger, keep mobs CCed and Helpless to maximize party dmg, while keeping people healed and generally ensure smooth runs! Remember to get a hold of Rose Colored goggles next time there is Birthday event! Id love to hear from you if you try the build or have any questions!

[IlmerSilverhilt]

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Level 30 True Neutral Purple Dragon Knight Male
(20 Bard \ 10 Epic) 
Hit Points: 600
Spell Points: 847 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 16
Reflex: 17
Will: 16

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 30)
Strength              9                    18
Dexterity            10                    19
Constitution         20                    30
Intelligence         14                    23
Wisdom               10                    19
Charisma             20                    45

Tomes Used
+2 Tome of Strength used at level 2 \par +3 Tome of Strength used at level 3 \par +4 Tome of Strength used at level 7 \par +5 Tome of Strength used at level 11 \par +6 Tome of Strength used at level 15 \par +7 Tome of Strength used at level 19 \par +2 Tome of Dexterity used at level 2 \par +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 3 \par +4 Tome of Dexterity used at level 7 \par +5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 11 \par +6 Tome of Dexterity used at level 15 \par +7 Tome of Dexterity used at level 19 \par +2 Tome of Constitution used at level 2 \par +3 Tome of Constitution used at level 3 \par +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 7 \par +5 Tome of Constitution used at level 11 \par +6 Tome of Constitution used at level 15 \par +7 Tome of Constitution used at level 19 \par +2 Tome of Intelligence used at level 2 \par +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 3 \par +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 7 \par +5 Tome of Intelligence used at level 11 \par +6 Tome of Intelligence used at level 15 \par +7 Tome of Intelligence used at level 19 \par +2 Tome of Wisdom used at level 2 \par +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 3 \par +4 Tome of Wisdom used at level 7 \par +5 Tome of Wisdom used at level 11 \par +6 Tome of Wisdom used at level 15 \par +7 Tome of Wisdom used at level 19 \par +2 Tome of Charisma used at level 2 \par +3 Tome of Charisma used at level 3 \par +4 Tome of Charisma used at level 7 \par +5 Tome of Charisma used at level 11 \par +6 Tome of Charisma used at level 15 \par +7 Tome of Charisma used at level 19 \par 
                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 30)
Balance               1                    31
Bluff                 4                    52
Concentration         4                    47
Diplomacy             5                    58
Disable Device        n/a                  n/a
Haggle                1                    30
Heal                  3                    28
Hide                  0                    16
Intimidate            2.5                  41
Jump                  0                    39
Listen                0                    21
Move Silently         1                    17
Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
Perform               4                    59
Repair                2                    20
Search                2                    20
Spellcraft            5                    42
Spot                  1                    17
Swim                  0                    16
Tumble                1                    17
Use Magic Device      6                    59

Level 1 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Empower Healing Spell
Feat: (Past Life) Epic Past Life - Arcane Sphere (ALL)
Feat: (Past Life) Epic Past Life - Divine Sphere (ALL)
Feat: (Past Life) Epic Past Life - Martial Sphere (ALL)
Feat: (Past Life) Epic Past Life - Primal Sphere (ALL)
Feat: (Past Life) Epic Past Life (ALL)
Feat: (Past Life) Iconic Past Life: MorningLord
Feat: (Past Life) Iconic Past Life: MorningLord
Feat: (Past Life) Iconic Past Life: MorningLord
Feat: (Past Life) Iconic Past Life: Purple Dragon Knight
Feat: (Past Life) Iconic Past Life: Purple Dragon Knight
Feat: (Past Life) Iconic Past Life: Purple Dragon Knight
Feat: (Past Life) Iconic Past Life: Shadar-Kai
Feat: (Past Life) Iconic Past Life: Shadar-Kai
Feat: (Past Life) Iconic Past Life: Shadar-Kai
Feat: (Past Life) Iconic Past Life: Deep-Gnome
Feat: (Past Life) Iconic Past Life: Deep-Gnome
Feat: (Past Life) Iconic Past Life: Deep-Gnome
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Druid
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Druid
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Druid
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Favored Soul
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Warlock
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Warlock
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Warlock
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Wizard
Feat: (Human Bonus) Quicken Spell
Feat: (Past Life) Race Past Life (ALL)
Spell (1): Cure Light Wounds


Level 2 (Bard)
Spell (1): Hypnotism


Level 3 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Completionist
Spell (1): Otto's Resistible Dance


Level 4 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Spell (2): Blur
Spell (2): Cure Moderate Wounds


Level 5 (Bard)
Spell (1): Feather Fall
Spell (2): Soundburst


Level 6 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Heighten Spell


Level 7 (Bard)
Spell (2): Suggestion
Spell (3): Cure Serious Wounds
Spell (3): Displacement


Level 8 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Spell (3): Haste


Level 9 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Focus: Enchantment


Level 10 (Bard)
Spell (3): Good Hope
Spell (4): Cure Critical Wounds
Spell (4): Otto's Sphere of Dancing


Level 11 (Bard)
Spell (4): Dimension Door


Level 12 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA


Level 13 (Bard)
Spell (4): Freedom of Movement
Spell (5): Cure Light Wounds, Mass
Spell (5): Mass Suggestion


Level 14 (Bard)
Spell (5): Mind Fog


Level 15 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Spell Penetration


Level 16 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Spell (1): Sleep
Spell (5): Greater Dispel Magic
Spell (6): Cure Moderate Wounds, Mass
Spell (6): Otto's Irresistible Dance


Level 17 (Bard)
Spell (2): Glitterdust
Spell (6): Heroes Feast


Level 18 (Bard)
Feat: (Selected) Greater Spell Penetration
Spell (3): Crushing Despair


Level 19 (Bard)
Spell (4): Hold Monster
Spell (6): Greater Shout


Level 20 (Bard)
Ability Raise: CHA
Spell (5): Greater Heroism


Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Inspire Excellence


Level 22 (Epic)


Level 23 (Epic)


Level 24 (Epic)
Ability Raise: CHA
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Arcane Insight


Level 25 (Epic)


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Arcane Sphere: Lasting Inspiration


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Wellspring of Power


Level 28 (Epic)
Ability Raise: CHA
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Divine Sphere: Epic Spell Power: Positive


Level 29 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Multiple Spheres: Fount of Life


Level 30 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Spell Penetration
Feat: (Legendary) Scion of the Feywild
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Human Versatility: Spell Power Boost (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Human Adaptability: Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Cormyrean Knight Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Action Surge: Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Action Surge: Charisma (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Action Surge: Charisma (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Purple Dragon Focus (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Rallying Cry (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Improved Recovery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Final Stand (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - For Cormyr! (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spellsinger (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Music of the Sewers (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Music of the Dead (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Music of the Makers (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Virtuoso (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Maestro of Life and Death (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Musical Studies (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Musical Studies (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Lingering Songs (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Sharp Note (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Sharp Note (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Sharp Note (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Wand and Scroll Mastery (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Yellow Marigold Crown (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spell Song Trance (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Sustaining Song (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spell Penetration (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spell Penetration (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spell Penetration (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Song of Arcane Might (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Prodigy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Prodigy (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Spell Song Vigor (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Mass Hold (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Mass Hold (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Spellsinger (Brd) - Mass Hold (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Skaldic Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Weapon Training (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Song of Heroism (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Inspired Bravery (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Inspired Bravery (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Inspired Bravery (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - The Poetic Edda (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Enchant Weapon (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Action Boost: Sprint (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Warchanter (Brd) - Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Confidence (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - On Your Toes (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Tavern Shanties (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Tavern Shanties (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Tavern Shanties (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Swashbuckler (Brd) - Fast Movement (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Agent of Good (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Charisma (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Harper Enchantment (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Traveler's Toughness (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Traveler's Toughness (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Heroic Companion (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Heroic Companion (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Harper Agent - Heroic Companion (Rank 3)

[NemesisAlien]

Hey everyone! This is the build Im working towards:

This post will be reserved for a build overview, next post is character builder export. This first post will need updating, but basically its a pure spellsinger bard with 19 pts spend in PDK Tree for For Cormyr! buff. Ill be using 2 heroic uncleansed Greensteel items to get me to 50% hp. Cha mod to damage for entire party! Should be fun 8)

Mesmerita

How you 20 a PDK? You use a wood?

[IlmerSilverhilt]

Yes it requires a +1 wood to remove the fighter level

[kmoustakas]

Hey everyone! This is the build Im working towards:

This post will be reserved for a build overview, next post is character builder export. This first post will need updating, but basically its a pure spellsinger bard with 19 pts spend in PDK Tree for For Cormyr! buff. Ill be using 2 heroic uncleansed Greensteel items to get me to 50% hp. Cha mod to damage for entire party! Should be fun 8)

Mesmerita

I've been contemplating a purple pure spellsinger for quite a while now but the cost of that heart is annoying. I have a couple of those +20 hearts that were handed out but this seems like a waste to use on. Still, following to learn how it performs. Of course, my main thing was the cha to damage and tactics. The for cormyr trick would be just gravy

[IlmerSilverhilt]

Im still working on racial lives, so this build is a future goal. Ill get some screenshots and maybe do a little video when Preview2 is coming!

[cru121]

Not my cup of tee.
I like my spellsingers evoking, soundbursting, BOGWing.
Also, a "max buffs bard" should probably go deeper in Warchanter.

[kmoustakas]

Mine is also built around evocation so I don't really need the spell penetration feats. Because of that I went half-elf for warlock dilitante but I'd be very interested to hear how the pdk version performs

[psykopeta]

I would say u don't have a lvl 12 feat and there's a discusion about heighten on bards due to having max lvl 6 spells, if you're gonna charm i would grab maybe augment summoning heroic and epic versions just because lol heck i would even thing of squeezing more stuff to boost enemies on higher skulls

[Hjarki]

I'd wait until the U41 details are finalized for the Bard Song update.

However, I don't believe you're going to be happy with this approach. You're building a pure support character with minimal/non-existent ability to deal damage.

Unfortunately, this isn't really an effective archetype in DDO. You'll find solo'ing nearly impossible and you'll be less effective in groups than more conventional builds. Your buffs/heals aren't really potent enough to be the sole justification for your presence in a group and your inability to operate independently makes you a far less effective teammate than the alternatives.

[IlmerSilverhilt]

Level 12 feat will be the new bard feat. I know a support character isnt for everybody but I like it, I can CC about everything, can heal/raid heal and buffs are really just extra but with For Cormyr you give out the max amount of damage for your party. Id have to check how it stacks with new song buffs type but previously bard songs were morale just like For Cormyr. Its only 1 minute/per rest but its a nice boss beatdown buff, thx for the comments guys!

[IlmerSilverhilt]

Not my cup of tee.
I like my spellsingers evoking, soundbursting, BOGWing.
Also, a "max buffs bard" should probably go deeper in Warchanter.

I took your advise on more warchanter, and I just tried to take BoGW... My investment lies in enchantment, so couldnt quite reach the DCs for evocation. My soundburst shows 94 unbuffed, so Im guessing its the same for wrath. I tried in reaper5 A Sharn Welcome and couldnt get any mobs unless I boosted for DC. I wasnt using Wellspring of Power much (took it bc I have 5pc Ottos), and was hoping that with the change, I would have another way to add CC and helplessness to party. I havent tried fully speccing for evo, as I think my enchant would hurt to much.

Whats the golden number for evocation DC on a Spellsinger?

Mes

[cru121]

I took your advise on more warchanter, and I just tried to take BoGW... My investment lies in enchantment, so couldnt quite reach the DCs for evocation. My soundburst shows 94 unbuffed, so Im guessing its the same for wrath. I tried in reaper5 A Sharn Welcome and couldnt get any mobs unless I boosted for DC. I wasnt using Wellspring of Power much (took it bc I have 5pc Ottos), and was hoping that with the change, I would have another way to add CC and helplessness to party. I havent tried fully speccing for evo, as I think my enchant would hurt to much.

Whats the golden number for evocation DC on a Spellsinger?

Mes

Problem with Soundburst and BoGW is that they target Fortitude save. Which is obscenely high on many mobs in Sharn (probably to keep instakills in check?).

But the DC to resist BoGW should be higher than Soundburst. For bards, it should be at least 4 more than heightened soundburst (20 vs 10+6) if one can trust the description. (It might be even higher, the description might be wrong.) Also, no SR check.

[BoBoDaClown]

Whats the golden number for evocation DC on a Spellsinger?

On R5-R8 Sharn, sorry I can't be specific, I find that a 116DC Frozen Fury often/normally misses vs goblins.

A Dire Charge (~130) always (nearly? hard to tell - I find Dire Charge buggy) hits.

That will be targeting the same saves as an evo SS. Most other mobs this DC seems enough for.

[IlmerSilverhilt]

Thanks for your input guys Seems like evo is a bit out of my reach atm, but Ill try to spec for it more, else Ill resort to Enchant like always. This is the first time I took freeze on a Spellsinger and I need to improve on that too. Im at 98 unbuffed outside reaper, but Im starting up on dps reaper tree and with new epic pastlives I can get some more tactics. Hmm Dire Charge, maybe I should try that too. Go Bards!

[IlmerSilverhilt]

Hey everyone! This is the build Im working towards:

This post will be reserved for a build overview, next post is character builder export. This first post will need updating, but basically its a pure spellsinger bard with 19 pts spend in PDK Tree for For Cormyr! buff. Ill be using Rose Colored Goggles (thx for the tip, Sthax) to get me to 50% hp. Cha mod to damage for entire party! Should be fun 8)

Mesmerita


Fully boosted for DC in reaper


Unbuffed

Mesmerita Buffs!



Above are my DCs with only ship buffs. Can swap trinkets for +10 Freeze/Dire Charge at the cost of -1 Spell DC.

Enhancements
Reaper Trees
Destiny
Spells

Feats:
01 Empower Healing Spell, Quicken
03 Completionist
06 Heighten
09 Spell Focus: Evocation
12 Improved Bardic Music or Force of Personality or PL: Wizard
15 Spell Penetration
18 Greater Spell Penetration
21 Inspire Excellence
24 Arcane Insight
26 Lasting Inspiration
27 Burst of Glacial Wrath
28 Tactician
29 Dire Charge
30 Epic Spell Penetration
30 Scion of the Plane of Air

Skills:
Balance(23), Bluff(23), Concentration(23), Diplomacy(23), Heal(11), Intimidate(11), Jump(17), Perform(23), Spellcraft(23), Tumble(1), UMD(23)

Twists:
T4: Crusade
T3: Sacred Ground
T2: Consecration
T2: Evocation Specialist
T1: Legendary Tactics

Gear Set:
Weapons: The Broken Blade of Constellation / LGS Affirmation: Devotion, Heal Amp, Charisma
Armor: Leg Blessed Vestments
Goggles: Attunements Gaze or Leg Collective Sight (constitution)
Helm: Leg Unbreakable Stormreach Guardians Helm (with reaper stats)
Neck: Sigil of Regalport or Sigil of Regalport
Trinket: Epic Litany of the Dead (or Leg Corroded Iron Figurine)
Cloak: Leg Hallowed Trail
Belt: Leg Black Satin Waist (or bard belt)
Ring: Leg Shattered Onyx
Gloves: LGS
Boots: LGS
Ring: Leg Celestial Ruby Ring (dexterity)
Bracers: Leg Hallowed Castigators
Quiver: Flametouched Fiddle



Thx for reading!

saving the old build, and redoing the OP!

[voxson5]

Fantastic achievement on getting racial completionist!

With your updated ?final? life, would you mind breaking down your cha & con? Cheers

[IlmerSilverhilt]

Fantastic achievement on getting racial completionist!

With your updated ?final? life, would you mind breaking down your cha & con? Cheers

Thanks alot, Voxson5! I still have some Iconics to do, so this isnt my final life... But it is my endgame build.

Here is a breakdown for you:

Charisma:
18 Starting
08 Tome
07 Lvl up
12 Augment
06 Insightful
03 Quality
09 Enhancement
13 Sentience
03 Racial lives
03 Flamecleansed
02 Ship
02 Completionist
02 Racial Completionist
02 Litany
02 Festive
02 Reaper Helm
02 Alch off-hander
01 Exeptional
01 Reaper core
02 Fatesinger
02 Primal Avatar

102 Unbuffed Charisma

04 Reaper
02 Song
02 Everlasting
02 Yugo
03 Cha Boost

115 in screenshot

Constitution:
18 Starting
08 Tome
13 Item
06 Insightful
03 Quality
01 Enhancement
01 Sentience
02 Racial lives
03 Wild Fortitude augments
02 Ship
02 Completionist
02 Racial Completionist
02 Litany
02 Festive
02 Reaper Helm
01 Exeptional
01 Reaper core
01 Fatesinger

70 Unbuffed Constitution

04 Reaper
02 Song
02 Everlasting
02 Yugo

80 in screenshot

[voxson5]

Really appreciate that thank you.

[IlmerSilverhilt]

Updated OP for level 32! Got a new mainhand weapon, missing horn slot but leaning towards Freezing Ice!