The at cap itemization problem

[Vanhooger]

I recently came back to DDO, and one of the fun aspect of the game (imho) was having different pieces of gear I was able to choose from, mix and match, try find different composition that worked best in multiple scenario.

Now, with the "new" ravenloft expansion, and earlier with Slavers, this is no longer the case.

As everyone that I know, and running a decent amount of end game is using the same exact gear, due to the fact of overpowered set.

Melee/ranged:
- Silent avenger
- Prowess

Casters:
- Slaver's
- Otto/Beholder

This is so **** boring.

Please, revisit items for end game, either:

- Nerf Op set
- Buff other items to compete with set bonus

Thanks!

[AbyssalMage]

I recently came back to DDO, and one of the fun aspect of the game (imho) was having different pieces of gear I was able to choose from, mix and match, try find different composition that worked best in multiple scenario.

Now, with the "new" ravenloft expansion, and earlier with Slavers, this is no longer the case.

As everyone that I know, and running a decent amount of end game is using the same exact gear, due to the fact of overpowered set.

Melee/ranged:
- Silent avenger
- Prowess

Casters:
- Slaver's
- Otto/Beholder

This is so **** boring.

Please, revisit items for end game, either:

- Nerf Op set
- Buff other items to compete with set bonus

Thanks!

This is all a dream. This is all a dream...

Or at least this is what some people will tell you when discussing this. The developers "shot themselves in the foot" trying to drum up RL sells. Only time will tell if they can "fix" this without destroying more content.

[Valerianus]

sets and filigrees like e.g. prowess don't need a nerf, the others need a buff to be more attractive, like, we should choose between options and tradeoffs.

i agree, variety would be nice and fun and constructive.

[LOOON375]

There's never been a bigger selection of gear to use at cap than there is right now.

[Maldorin]

There's never been a bigger selection of gear to use at cap than there is right now.

True. But I think this is about filigrees specifically. They put all this effort into creating so many filigree sets (like 24?) my bag seams broke and as a melee if it's not prowess it's trash.

Do not Nerf prowess!

Buff other sets.

Now if only we could remove the sentient jewel without using 5 (or more) extra sentient tool kits or destroying all my prowess filigrees I'd be truly happy .

Edited to add, oh I see where they said same exact gear.

The set bonuses do make the RL gear the best I think.

[Vanhooger]

There's never been a bigger selection of gear to use at cap than there is right now.

Yeah, plenty of option to nerf your own toon. Remove those set and then I might agree with you.

[Vanhooger]

sets and filigrees like e.g. prowess don't need a nerf, the others need a buff to be more attractive, like, we should choose between options and tradeoffs.

i agree, variety would be nice and fun and constructive.

I completely disagree on prowess my friend. It indeed need a big nerf or a big boost on other filigree.

Prowess gives you a sustainable +75 melee power for the entirety of the quest/raid. It's so easy to get 40+ boost and then get them back at the first shrine.
Also since every melee play only LD, having +75 melee power on a already overpowered combat brute +50% damage while helpless make this even more overpowered.

Either gives combat brute to any destiny or remove it.

[Vanhooger]

True. But I think this is about filigrees specifically. They put all this effort into creating so many filigree sets (like 24?) my bag seams broke and as a melee if it's not prowess it's trash.

Do not Nerf prowess!

Buff other sets.

Now if only we could remove the sentient jewel without using 5 (or more) extra sentient tool kits or destroying all my prowess filigrees I'd be truly happy .

Edited to add, oh I see where they said same exact gear.

The set bonuses do make the RL gear the best I think.

This is not only about filigree.

[cru121]

Silent Avenger set is indeed a bit too good. I often wear heroic set from 10 to 28, then switch to epic.
Add the fact that there are exactly three slots.. no variety. Those are basically locked from 10 to 30.

Prowess.. yeah that too.

[Vanhooger]

Silent Avenger set is indeed a bit too good. I often wear heroic set from 10 to 28, then switch to epic.
Add the fact that there are exactly three slots.. no variety. Those are basically locked from 10 to 30.

Prowess.. yeah that too.

That is exactly what I am doing when levelling, if caster slavers set.

At least someone else that does agree yay!

[HungarianRhapsody]

True. But I think this is about filigrees specifically. They put all this effort into creating so many filigree sets (like 24?) my bag seams broke and as a melee if it's not prowess it's trash.

I don't think that's completely true.

I mean, it's mostly true, but not completely true. It's fine to use other filigrees while you're waiting to finish your prowess set.

[Sam-u-r-eye]

Thread is spot on.

It's even worse on a tank or healer with a shield because LGS healing amp stick means you can't use a shield, or you can't get sentience at all.

But tank/healer gearing is much more interesting.
That's my recc. hoog, try a funny toon and keep it at cap.

[NXPlasmid]

Just use a quarterstaff, everyone knows it's the best DPS in the game. I am sure Steel will use his "laying on of handwraps" on the prowess set... now get back to your endless grinds of racial and reaper lives...

[mr420247]

Since Ravenloft was released the Devs instituted new loot rules

Named items now have a 4 effect max limit, and you can no longer get resistance, sheltering

So of course ravenloft, slavers items will be better

It's like the Ghost bane era you just have to wait it out

Casters- There are no sw filigree sets that work with spell attacks and dps casting

so they have no other choice but max stat, dcs

[Maldorin]

I don't think that's completely true.

I mean, it's mostly true, but not completely true. It's fine to use other filigrees while you're waiting to finish your prowess set.

Speaking strictly for myself.

I have a 5 piece prowess set on my RL lvl 29 weapon with sentience slotted.

I'm not gonna feed a second sentient jewel. I'm not gonna unslot those filigrees. So basically I'm gonna not use sentience until I'm lvl 29 again. But at least epic leveling goes much faster than heroic.

[droid327]

I think you're describing a specific case of endgame/cap play. The RL and Slavers sets are too high level to really be impactful in ETR cycles. A good set of 3-affix crafted L20 gear is arguably more useful if you're grinding out lives. And I'd argue that having certain named loot to chase is appropriate for endgame. Those are a couple of the newest packs that have Legendary content so of course their loot is still going to be among the BIS, but there is definitely endgame loot that's useful for some builds in other packs (ie Artificer loot in Disciples)

[cru121]

That is exactly what I am doing when levelling, if caster slavers set.

Yes. But Slaver's set is flexible. You can juggle stuff around. It does not make me ignore 3 inventory slots from 10 to 30.

[Kriogen]

I have a car that has round wheels. I look around and every car has round wheels. Not even that, even bicycles have round wheels. And don't ley me start on grandpa with a wheelchair.

Nerf rounded wheels. Way to OP. Oh and buff square and triangular wheels.

[Vanhooger]

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I have a car that has round wheels. I look around and every car has round wheels. Not even that, even bicycles have round wheels. And don't ley me start on grandpa with a wheelchair.

Nerf rounded wheels. Way to OP. Oh and buff square and triangular wheels.

So following you're line you would be perfectly ok if the dev one day decieded to give aeveryone the same equip for every class and every slot, since the wheel is round. Make perfect sense.

[slarden]

Yes. But Slaver's set is flexible. You can juggle stuff around. It does not make me ignore 3 inventory slots from 10 to 30.

I agree, we need more interesting systems like Slavers.