U40 Preview 2: New Raid "Killing Time" Feedback Thread

[Cocomajobo]

(EDIT: An item has been added to the Lamannia store titled "Temporary Access to the raid 'Killing Time'" in the Low Level Adventure Packs category that will allow non-VIP's to access the raid after purchasing. I apologize for the delay. I hope you all still have a chance to get in there and let us know what you think!)

This thread is for the new raid cap level "Killing Time". For full release notes on this Preview push please look here.

The questgiver for Killing Time is Saryon Xyrrim and can be found in the Marketplace next to the fountain with the rest of the Dragonblood Prophecy questgivers as well as within the center island of the Test Dojo.

[thomascoolone64]

Does this mean the build has been deployed and is ready?

[Sam-u-r-eye]

Blackrazor's "Overwhelming Stealer of Souls" is not, atm, giving stacks on kill. IMO the proc rate (~2-3%) is a bit low.

Stormreaver Gauntlets are 2k proc damage which adds 100 damage per hit on average. Seems reasonable enough IMO! Fun version of the sword on gloves.
~I'd prefer to see it be 1/2 the damage and to scale with 100% melee power. This rewards fighters/barbarians more since the gloves reward rogues/rangers/monks the most. I'd also like it to scale with 200% melee power if you have a THF weapon equipped. Cheers

[J1NG]

I would imagine so, client here is updating. Will be transferring toons over soon (pending if server is up)... Unless of course if the Devs haven't fixed that yet (again).

J1NG

[J1NG]

Just read the highlighted bit more clearly. Non VIP here, guess I'll log back out of Lamannia for now then - after my last LGS testing that is.

J1NG

[Sam-u-r-eye]

In raid, I died over the nothingness next to Kor Kaza fight #1. My stone is just rubberbanding me infinitely and I am not raiseable.

[Marupal]

Server was wiped and character copy is working. Yay!

[The_Human_Cypher]

There are two spelling errors in the text when first entering the raid and speaking with Sariyon.

"Quickly get your people through and perpare yourselves."

"Something is definitetly wrong with the Chronoscope."

Please correct "prepare" and "definitely" - and also run the entire raid's text through a spell-checker!

[Cocomajobo]

An item has been added to the Lamannia store titled "Temporary Access to the raid 'Killing Time'" in the Low Level Adventure Packs category that will allow non-VIP's to access the raid after purchasing. I apologize for the delay. I hope you all still have a chance to get in there and let us know what you think!

[Unsinful]

Didn't quite get to complete the raid yet. Got to what we figured was the last rift in time fighting LoB and failed almost instantly due to the ritual being complete.
The timer is either really precise in the raid or the time is SUPER short. We were shortmanning but with 1 healer 1 tank and 5 DPS we seemed to run out of time. The raid seems very fun and the nostalgia was great. You guys really tried to go all out to stop people from soloing with the amount of HP of some mobs. During the second round of Kor Kaza when the wisps spawned they seemed to do so much chaotic damage so fast it seemed almost unstoppable until we got a tank in there.

Overall I think the timer needs to be extended a little bit on how long before you fail the raid and get teleported to the room with the exit portal. Also there are a lot of small things like the distance between air jets that some people cannot make with an abundant step type ability.

For Reference all of our testing was done on LN with a guild of endgame raiders.

Will post more feedback one I get around to completing the raid later.

[cru121]

An item has been added to the Lamannia store titled "Temporary Access to the raid 'Killing Time'" in the Low Level Adventure Packs category that will allow non-VIP's to access the raid after purchasing. I apologize for the delay. I hope you all still have a chance to get in there and let us know what you think!

Perhaps it works for other folks. I just get a spinning wheel when trying to purchase that thing.

[Torc]

Didn't quite get to complete the raid yet. Got to what we figured was the last rift in time fighting LoB and failed almost instantly due to the ritual being complete.
The timer is either really precise in the raid or the time is SUPER short. We were shortmanning but with 1 healer 1 tank and 5 DPS we seemed to run out of time. The raid seems very fun and the nostalgia was great. You guys really tried to go all out to stop people from soloing with the amount of HP of some mobs. During the second round of Kor Kaza when the wisps spawned they seemed to do so much chaotic damage so fast it seemed almost unstoppable until we got a tank in there.

Overall I think the timer needs to be extended a little bit on how long before you fail the raid and get teleported to the room with the exit portal. Also there are a lot of small things like the distance between air jets that some people cannot make with an abundant step type ability.

For Reference all of our testing was done on LN with a guild of endgame raiders.

Will post more feedback one I get around to completing the raid later.

We're putting in better feedback and quest direction for this so I don't mind giving it a way, but the timer for the raid proceeds much more slowly if you keep Kor-Kaza busy. This wasn't probably clear to groups who all piled into the 1st "thingie" they encountered, but she keeps channeling while your busy doing that if you don't split forces.

-Torc

[Unsinful]

Hmmmm….. don't want to spoil to much for those who haven't run it yet. We failed while in the side areas when we were unable to hit Kor Kaza

[Saaluta]

Disregard, just got confirmation

Saal

[PsychoBlonde]

You ABSOLUTELY need to make the "time to failure" for each section VISIBLE. It's impossible to tell whether you're pushing timeout or not or if the timer is even running. If the timer is variable, have a "ritual part completed" ticker of some kind that depletes periodically, like this:

Stop Kor-Kaza from completing the ritual
Ritual parts uncompleted: 50

Have the "ritual parts" tick down. It doesn't matter whether each "tick" takes the same amount of time as long as there's some sort of indicator of whether the time is currently ticking and how much you have left.

Also, it needs to be clear that the raid is FAILED when you get the paradox. So instead of "exit the paradox" have it say RAID FAILED: exit the raid. That way people won't stand around in the dark going "huh?" "is this a bug?" "what's wrong?" "Should we exit?" "huh?"

Some of the air jets are too low and don't push you up far enough to actually GET ON an island without abundant step or wings. They need to be moved up slightly, since you're working against the clock the entire time and a couple of people falling to badly-positioned gravity wells means RAID FAILED.

Overall, it's definitely a better raid than Riding the Storm Out, but that's not saying much because RtSO is a HORRIBLE raid. For experienced players, this will probably be a fun raid, but I'd say a good 90% of puggers will be totally worthless in there because there are too many mechanics to know about. For every section something like half the group was all "but I never run this quest! I don't know this part!" Heck, most puggers can't be trusted to know the mechanics of the actual basic raid they are CURRENTLY doing, let alone things like how the shadows in ToD work and how the dogs in LoB work etc. And since you're ON A TIMER, there isn't a lot of time to handhold people and explain the mechanics for every new section.

[Sam-u-r-eye]

I agree with Unsin that more direction in the raid objectives would be helpful, except...

Also, it needs to be clear that the raid is FAILED when you get the paradox. So instead of "exit the paradox" have it say RAID FAILED: exit the raid. That way people won't stand around in the dark going "huh?" "is this a bug?" "what's wrong?" "Should we exit?" "huh?"

I found this quite charming. ^^

[PsychoBlonde]

Heh, it was pretty funny. "Try true seeing!" "Maybe we should DDoor?" "Should I click on the portal?" Yeesh.

Personally, I think it should kill everyone the way Reaver's Fate does when the time runs out.

[Aelonwy]

We're putting in better feedback and quest direction for this so I don't mind giving it a way, but the timer for the raid proceeds much more slowly if you keep Kor-Kaza busy. This wasn't probably clear to groups who all piled into the 1st "thingie" they encountered, but she keeps channeling while your busy doing that if you don't split forces.

-Torc

This is not at all obvious while you are inside the raid following the group through the portals.

Also I agree with PB there were many, many of the air jets that are placed so far below the platforms that even at the peak of the jet you cannot easily jump to the platform and require some form of "leap of faith type ability". In fact I used the leap clicky from the Exalted Angel destiny liberally throughout this raid and several times I just barely grabbed the edge of the platform and had to climb up.

One member of the group fell and ended up in The Pit. That seems unnecessarily cruel. Some of us hate that quest and avoid it like the plague. I don't know what else you might end up in, but the one time I fell I had to fight the Devourer of Dreams and his Living Spells by myself. Good thing I was a cleric or I'd have been charisma damage stunned into a soulstone smudge. Still it was a very close thing.

Weird how we're going to need to learn the mechanics of multiple other quests in case we fall and randomly end up in some replica of content we may never have seen before or not touched in years.

I have to say I love the Chronoscope raid... I'm not sure how I feel about this though.

[kain741]

So I hope the endfight on live will be something ...more. was a bit anti-climatic...

[Unsinful]

Fun Raid. Ended weirdly. was expecting more parts to the raid