Update 40 Preview 1: Visible Cloaks Feedback Thread

[janave]

There is currently no way to turn off cloaks as far as I can see.

Also, Legendary Scarlet Scale Cloak is awesome:

Woah, good job on this one artists .

Liking the night cloak too.

[Chacka_DDO]

I was for another reason on Lamannia but I saw this:



as you can see the cloak hoovers with a quite big distance over the shoulders.
But so far I can tell the cloaks seem to be in general well accomplished.

[Iriale]

there is a visual bug with Legendary Mist-laden Vestment armor and cloaks (happens with many cloaks)

[Iriale]

4. They are stiff and do not move realistically as you walk/run or stand in windy areas. Its like having a piece of cardboard tied to your neck.

this is what worries me most. Animations need more work

[Marupal]

This thread is for feedback on both the appearances and animations of visible cloaks. For full release notes on this Preview push please look here.
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IMPORTANT TO NOTE

• If you see any animation problems at all, regardless of whether you are wearing a cloak, please let us know. Every character animation in the game has been affected by the introduction of cloaks. There are almost certainly still things that need ironing out and the more info you provide us the better shape we'll be in when U40 launches.
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Will bug these items too.
PDK male animation::strafe right while walking forward is impacted. Left leg goes forward and up, right goes behind and up and both stay in that position with character appearing to float.

Named cloaks can no longer be fed to sentient jewels. No error message, it just refuses to be fed.

[Captain_Wizbang]

Not sure if this was asked, will we be able to change the color of these? Or... better yet, will we have options for color?
The Legendary Scarlet Cloak is cool, and it would look awesome in different colors.

[SableShadow]

Not sure if this was asked, will we be able to change the color of these? Or... better yet, will we have options for color?
The Legendary Scarlet Cloak is cool, and it would look awesome in different colors.

I'm having a UO flashback, dye tub specifically to get a blue cloak on my char.

Obligatory: "Can I get the cloak in Cornflower Blue?"

[Chacka_DDO]

this is what worries me most. Animations need more work

It is of course always easy to say more realism is better and you want the cloak to interact physically correct with the wind etc. and it sounds reasonable at first
but sometimes more realism is not really desirable...



I just hope they can manage that armor parts don't stitch through the cloak.
Even if this means that they cut such armor parts visible off which is of course also not realistic...
So far I can see it looks nice and is seemingly a real improvement to DDO even if it was clearly not No.1 on my wishlist for DDO

[Kerthyn]

So are the Night Revel cloaks not available in this preview? Can't seem to find them.

[Iriale]

So are the Night Revel cloaks not available in this preview? Can't seem to find them.

I posted the imagen before, but here again:

[Grace_ana]

I was wearing the Legendary Mantle of Fury and did an epic reincarnation. The cloak remained equipped and providing all benefits, even at lvl 1. This seems like quite the bad idea (or good, depending on who you are). Unless you guys wanted to give me 19 con and dodge at lvl 1, in which case, thanks!

[Fenix93]

I was for another reason on Lamannia but I saw this:



as you can see the cloak hoovers with a quite big distance over the shoulders.
But so far I can tell the cloaks seem to be in general well accomplished.

There are some problems with clipping of the cloaks in Beta 1, lack of animations of the cloaks on PDK and I think also Half-Orcs masculine, the females PDK this problem, some breeds then the lower part as for the female elves cross the legs and breaks a bit of the atmosphere.

there is a visual bug with Legendary Mist-laden Vestment armor and cloaks (happens with many cloaks)

I noticed it too, but I think they are not the only "Outfit" that have this clipping problem (I can honestly solve this problem with the command / showcloak on-off), I can not import my characters on lammania I could not verify if other armors like slavers lords' execution mail plate and the good intentions ardened Hide Armor have a similar problem, this has been very frustrating because this is also part of Beta one's feead back and not being able to look at it we can not say with certainty if there are other problems.

In general all the cloaks I liked even if in some caisi as for the mantle of the morning lord should be reviewed, I saw it in beta and I honestly do not like it at all does not match with the outfit the solution would make it similar to the coat of PDK mono chromatic and simple...

...even if ...the bottom part does not make me crazy it seems dirty with mud or earth, and for a character like a PDK I imagined something monochromatic and clean... in any case that model of coat that was made on the PDK I would like to see it in other colors, but maybe there is the problem and that you should check which cloaks are that look ... an idea I would have made it and I hope they are these cloaks here:

http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Prismat...Red_(Level_28)
http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Prismat...lue_(Level_28)
http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Prismat...let_(Level_27)
http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Prismatic_Cloak,_Green
http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Prismat...rey_(Level_17)

I am convinced that the cloaks of the Storm Horns and the end redward of the quest giver will give that exact cosmetic look ... but I would like if there was more than a slightly dirty version of the earth, even a cleaner and more elegant version, I would be very happy, this type of coat is perfect (for those like me) for those who do not want a cloak with strange symbols or various ornaments on it, but want something simple and clean.

To facilitate the search for cosmetics and understand which ones have a correct visual appearance and which ones I report here (I hope complete) of all the cloaks currently in play, hoping that a Devs or a player tries to do a thorough research and try to post the following cloaks here on this post:

http://ddowiki.com/page/Cloak

[Kerthyn]

I posted the imagen before, but here again:

I'm talking about the one on the left.

[janave]

Brown version of night revels cloak would be supercool too

[Fenix93]

This is my final feedback of the first beta of the new update on Visible cloaks, I hope you enjoy it and that the developers can take these words of mine for the next changes in the second round of beta.

Cloaks mania!

The update 40 finally brings the cloaks visible on DDO this opens the doors to an infinity of future possibilities on new cosmetic appearances and who knows .. even new NPc with cloaks as well as Stradh.

The truth is that since they released the first images of Stradh and haveva a cloak be .. I immediately thought "I have the cloaks are coming ?! but it's great! How nice" and as I suspected this is happening! ivy now !, one of the things of DDO that I have never endured and the little "dynamism" that year the characters, already in itself the armor are so simple and make the characters as if they were wearing a onesie sometimes or a swimsuit very tight, making them very ridiculous, with a cape instead this will no longer be a problem because (in my opinion) will make the characters more beautiful and more heroic.

we analyze the cloaks on each character in DDO

Now I will make a list of how the cloaks are seen on each race and iconic in DDO (I will start first from the iconic because as most of them have the same animations as other heroic races like SDK and humans have the same animations, it will be easier to but to analyze its defects and merits).

SDK/human/Half-Elf:

The coat of the SDK perfectly matches the outfit, I also love the effect (ruined in the lower part that makes the coat more lived and psettrale).

As for the human animations, Half-elf that SDK use the same animations, I tried both the female and male version, and I did not notice any flaw in the animation of the strange ocliping cloak in the limbs of the characters, spun all smooth as the 'oil.

PDK/Half-Orc:

Even here, the cloaks are perfectly matched to the outfit and I can say that finally the PDKs seem like real knights with a fluttering cape charging towards an enemy ... it would be nice if they did not have cliping and animation problems.

Both PDK and Half-Orcs share the same structured structure and animations so I imagined that the same problems that existed on PDK are also on the Haf-Orcs.

as you can see from the image above when the male / female PDK runs the cloak and static and does not move it looks like a piece of cardboard attached to the back.

this problem is not only present in PDK and Half-Orcs but also on other races... mostly in female counterparts that are the most those with more problems.

on the PDK, however, there is a very obvious bug that when you go forward diagonally to the right the animation is freazing as you can see.

In the female version inece, as mentioned above, the upper part of the cloaks on the PDK and Half-Orcs females are slightly raised on the head, for sure this may be a bug, but unlike the male counterpart all animations seem to work correctly.

Deep gnome/gnome:

The mantle of the Deep gnome is in itself the same as that of the SDK, but the color of the coat makes it perfectly in tone with the outfit so nothing negative, on the anomalies as Deep gnome and heroic gnomes share the same structure and animations, both the emminile version that masculine have no problem so I would say I'm okay.

ASoTU/Aasimar/Wood elf:

Also in this case the cloak goes very well with the outfit and makes the character more dynamic and heroic.
On the animations here too I have not encountered problems ASoTU, Aasimar heroic and wood elf are ok.

Sun elf/Drow/elf:

Until now this is the only coat of the iconic that I do not think anything with the outfit, the color is wrong and even the texture, it seems that they hung a fishing net around his neck, this is completely wrong, it would be better if the do the same as for the PDK on sun elf maybe a golden color or however that approaches the color of the outfi, in this way the coat will seem less "out of place".

on the animations, the female version and the one that suffers most problems, both in terms of clipping (just look at the lower part that crosses the legs, both in terms of animations where when it runs as for PDK and Half-Orcs the coat looks like cardboard and he does not have an animation, on the other hand the male version of Drow, Elves and sun elf does not have problems on the contrary the cloaks on them are fantastic them has been a great job.

Where are the bladeforged? pultroppo the iconic llo current state of the beta and very buggy and is constantly presented in "T" poses... and is not the only one to suffer... but I'll talk about it in another place ... to make you understand the problem Here is a screenshot of the Bladeforge.

Now that with the cionci (and partly some heroic races) we now pass to the rest of the other races with unique animations.

Dragonborn:

The female version of the Dragonborn and that for the moment with more problems both in terms of animation and clipping, the lower part that runs through the legs and the coat that when running or Stealth is curled by creating that effect crumpled, much ugly,as can be seen from these images:

In my opinion the animations of the mantle on the female dragonborn are all to be redone from 0 this perhaps and one of the worst animations at the moment (although there would be 2 more but maybe... slightly less serious than this).

The only defect on the male dragonborn and when it goes into stealth that the cloak slightly crosses the back as seen in this image above otherwise the animations of the male counterpart are all right.

Halfings:

As before even in this case the female version suffers from the same problems even when running the animation of the cape and ok and does not curl, but when it goes in stealt the coat seems almost to atrophy as you can see in the pictures below:

when and in attack with a one-handed weapon and shield instead the coat makes the effect "piece of cardboard" a problem that is also noticeable in other areas in general, but easily resolvable (I hope) in the end the amntello seen from behind seems almost that is glued back, does not make me crazy much maybe you can improve, on the male version nothing to say and all right and the coat makes the halfing really more fast of normal (in a positive sense).

Dwarf:

On dwarfs nothing to say, animations and mantells are perfect as they are, I would not touch anything.

Warforged:

when I immediately noticed it I asked myself <but how is it possible that the warforged is not in "T" poses like the bladeforged? yet they should have the same animations and body structure> apparently this is not the case.

apart from the fact that the lower part slightly crosses the legs (and should be fix as soon as possible) I have noticed things much more serious than in comparison to the female dragonborn are almost like comic film.

Apart from the problem of the problem of the piece of cardboard that is present on other races, here the coat when you shake a two-handed weapon as in this case ... it almost seems as if ... fly away to the left, this effect visual and really horrible and I hope SSg will solve it as soon as possible because I think it is one of the most loathsome bugs of the cloaks until now.

And this and all that I have tested on animations..e was a huge effort for me both in making screenshots that observe and analyze every single animation of each race and iconic, but I must say that the final result I find it satisfactory and I hope SSG can read what I wrote.

Finally... a small request to SSG...

The cloaks in general are fantastic ... varied and colored but ... I have not seen anything in a solid color like the mantle of the PDK or the Hide of the Fallen (Cloak):

http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Hide_of...len_(level_13)

The latter in game and the united as the PDK but Orange-Brownish color, honestly it would be nice if it were black the latter, and then it would be in tune with the icon that in itself the image is black and not marrne.

The point is that in the Storm Horns (enel quest giver redward Trakers trap) there are cloaks with that same image but of different colors, I thought they had the same skin and coat of PDK but with different colors instead we see this:

These are only 2 of the 3 cloaks that can be received from the quest giver, it would be nice if these cloaks had the aesthetics as the mantle of the PDK but that they can be of the same color correspondent of the icon type Skirmisher (Green), Sage (Blue dark), the same thing for the prismatic cloaks that drop in the stormhorns quests I have not tried), They are 5 different colors..and being a prismatic amnity, it makes me think of a beautiful coat in solid silk or that shines , and being of 5 different colors would not be bad if they were all 5 in solid color, this then would like very much to people like me who want to go in search of a monochrome coat without symbols or other, this for me would be a great thing but also for other people ... I would very much like a plain cloak .. if it is possible, could you do it?

I'll post the cloak links here to let you know what I'm talking about:

http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Prismatic_Cloak,_Blue

http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Prismatic_Cloak,_Green

http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Prismatic_Cloak,_Grey

http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Prismatic_Cloak,_Red

http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Prismatic_Cloak,_Violet

ByP.S: next beta can you put an NPC with all the named cloaks of the game? so that we can better test the visible cloaks of all named? it would be a big advantage for us and for you.

[Arch-Necromancer]

Finally... a small request to SSG...

The cloaks in general are fantastic ... varied and colored but ... I have not seen anything in a solid color like the mantle of the PDK or the Hide of the Fallen (Cloak):

http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Hide_of...len_(level_13)

The latter in game and the united as the PDK but Orange-Brownish color, honestly it would be nice if it were black the latter, and then it would be in tune with the icon that in itself the image is black and not marrne.

The point is that in the Storm Horns (enel quest giver redward Trakers trap) there are cloaks with that same image but of different colors, I thought they had the same skin and coat of PDK but with different colors instead we see this:

These are only 2 of the 3 cloaks that can be received from the quest giver, it would be nice if these cloaks had the aesthetics as the mantle of the PDK but that they can be of the same color correspondent of the icon type Skirmisher (Green), Sage (Blue dark), the same thing for the prismatic cloaks that drop in the stormhorns quests I have not tried), They are 5 different colors..and being a prismatic amnity, it makes me think of a beautiful coat in solid silk or that shines , and being of 5 different colors would not be bad if they were all 5 in solid color, this then would like very much to people like me who want to go in search of a monochrome coat without symbols or other, this for me would be a great thing but also for other people ... I would very much like a plain cloak .. if it is possible, could you do it?

I'll post the cloak links here to let you know what I'm talking about:

http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Prismatic_Cloak,_Blue

http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Prismatic_Cloak,_Green

http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Prismatic_Cloak,_Grey

http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Prismatic_Cloak,_Red

http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Prismatic_Cloak,_Violet

ByP.S: next beta can you put an NPC with all the named cloaks of the game? so that we can better test the visible cloaks of all named? it would be a big advantage for us and for you.

This seems like a reasonable suggestion. It would make sense to have named cloaks in solid colors too. And it makes sense for these Storm Horns cloaks to have the same design but in different colors that matches the icons.

[Fenix93]

This seems like a reasonable suggestion. It would make sense to have named cloaks in solid colors too. And it makes sense for these Storm Horns cloaks to have the same design but in different colors that matches the icons.

Exactly and the reasoning that I was just doing, but I repeat not having tested the cloaks of the Stormhorns because I have not found anyone in beta to go and look I could not verify if these cloaks are similar to these I showed, personally it would be easier both for us that for SSg to put at the next beta an NPC with all the cloaks with the name of the game to verify the exact appearance of each of them behind the back, but anyway just understand it already from the name "Prismatic cloaks", that the coat should be solid and bright, and I am convinced that many people would appreciate this if it were really done.

[Taurnish]

I tried on several cloaks and overall I think the DEVs did a good job. I think the cloaks can be touched up a little with new patches/ updates. I tried out about 8 cloaks and thought most of them looked great. A few are similar in design but nothing too repetitive. As far as the movement of the cloaks and the cloaks appearing to hover too far off the back of a character I hope that can be adjusted in time. I do hope we will have an option to glamor existing cloaks and obtain special cloak cosmetics say for comepleting a series of raids (Hound, Shroud, VOD, Reaver, Demon Queen on heroic) and (Chronoscope, Tempest spine, shroud, Hound, and the new raid on epic). Ravenloft could drop a cosmetic cloak BTA as a named item in either raid. Another option would be to add cloaks with mysterious remnant turn-ins, reaper points, and with each festival in the year (Mimic, Festivult, Crystal Cove, Night Revels). Adding an exclusive cosmetic cloak available from total favor would be another great idea. This would certainly add to variety so we all dont look the same.

Thanks for the cloaks!

--Lorr

[PsychoBlonde]

I have a stack of random-gen cannith crafted cloaks and none of them are showing a cloak appearance when I put them on.

[Arkat]

Since there's no Preview 2 Cloaks thread, I'm posting my issue here instead.

EDIT: The cloak on my BF has other display issues, too.

Here's what it looks like whenever he has his Greatsword raised...like when you have Auto-Attack on but are not actually attacking anything. The cloak will just stay there like that for as long as I stand there.