Update 40 Preview 1: Raid Loot Feedback Thread

[Gywiden]

Chaos bow has no string currently.

[Lynnabel]

Plus, no effects is...boring.

I disagree completely. It's the Staff of Shadows - the timeshattered version of the Sword of Shadows, a weapon that leverages dice and crit and being adamantine to simply numerically outpace its competitors. Adding something to the staff would be a disservice to the original.

As a completely unrelated aside, it will also be completely indestructible when it goes live XD

[Grace_ana]

I disagree completely. It's the Staff of Shadows - the timeshattered version of the Sword of Shadows, a weapon that leverages dice and crit and being adamantine to simply numerically outpace its competitors. Adding something to the staff would be a disservice to the original.

I figured that out, so I edited my post. Please check my edit

[karatemack]

Chaosbow Longbow
Damage Dice: 5[1d8+3]

• 9d6 Chaotic Damage (Lawful characters will take a neg level)
• Improved Destruction
• Elasticity (+1 Mult on 19-20)
• Ranged Alacrity 25%
• Red Augment Slot
• Orange Augment Slot

Yes! This is amazing!!!

Hellstroke Heavy Mace Heavy Mace
Damage Dice: 5[1d6+3]

• Maiming 9
• Impact V
• Doublestrike 23%
• Material: Cold Iron
• Red Augment Slot
• Orange Augment Slot

Not sure if this is raid loot or not. It is in-line with the Age of Rage maces, but doesn't stand out as particularly better. The extra +1 is nice and it does flesh out another option for mace-wielders which is welcome.

The Reflection of Whelm Warhammer
Damage Dice: 5[1d8+3]

• Overwhelming Shockwave: This reverberates with incredible power, and on a Vorpal strike releases a shockwave that does extreme damage to surrounding enemies. It also dazes your target (like Guardbreaking)
• +1 Crit Multiplier on a 19-20
• Bonesplitter
• Giant Bane
• Red Augment Slot
• Orange Augment Slot

A nice small incremental upgrade to the Echo of Whelm. The Overhelming Shockwave is a nice new effect, however since it is single-target would have preferred stunned over dazed for the helpless damage boost. Also would have loved to see Impact V on here as well to make it the definitive option for those of us that wield the hammer. Overall, no real complaints though.

[karatemack]

As a completely unrelated aside, it will also be completely indestructible when it goes live XD

Now THAT is something to get excited about. An unbreakable staff??? Henshins everywhere rejoice!

[Grace_ana]

Indestructible is excellent, but if it doesn't keep up with other end game weapons, that makes it a swap item for when other stuff breaks. I want it to be a go-to item instead.

[QuantumFX]

To match the theme of the Sword of Shadows, the Staff of Shadows should really be 18-20/x3. It would keep the crit profile in line with Epic Elemental Bloom, and justify the lack of damage procs on the weapon.

[WiseFreelancer]

Elyd Charm Necklace

Please consider changing Insightful Devotion to Insightful Charisma.

While Devotion is useful to Bards, it's not nearly as useful as Charisma. The item looked pretty cool until I saw that. If you want bards to replace their Bells of Warding, the current version isn't going to do it.

Please *do not* do this. Insightful Devotion is a hard stat to slot while insightful charisma comes in several places now. Plus if a bard is looking to get the Anthem effect they'll probably want to wear Softsoul Slippers that already have Insight Charisma 9 on them. I think this item has a nice mix of stats for a bard-focused item.

[Grace_ana]

To compare:

eSOS (lvl 20)
17-20/x3

standard greatsword
19-20/x2

Now let's look at the new stuff:

Staff of Shadows (lvl 29)
20/x3

standard qstaff:
20/x2

So if the idea is to leverage crits like the eSoS, the Staff of Shadows needs 18-20/x3. Given that it is also a lvl 29 weapon instead of a lvl 20 weapon (and even taking into account the eSoS status), I would also add a third augment slot. I think that would make it an excellent weapon that is like the eSoS but not overpowered, since augments frankly aren't overpowered.

[lyrecono]

This thread is for feedback on both the new raid loot coming with Update 40. For full release notes on this Preview push please look here.

Theme: Time Travel! These are alternate timeline versions of raid and quest items you know and love. They'll be similar in theme and different in slot, or similar in slot and different in theme. You'll understand what I mean when you start looking at them.

Power Levels: These are all Raid level items! They are minimum level 29. They'll match the numbers of The Curse of Strahd and Baba Lysaga. All Crit Profiles are standard, or Standard + keen, with the exception of The Staff of Shadows.

You can find all of these items on the "Loot Guy" in the Test Dojo on Lamannia. Note: some of these differ slightly from what you will see on Lamannia as a couple last minute tweaks have been made to design that did not make it into this preview. When in doubt, what is listed in this thread is the intended item. Please make note of any differences in case they are bugs that we are unaware of (which is always possible).



ARMOR:

Mail of the Mroranon Medium Armor

• Strength +20
• PRR +52
• Fortification 208%
• Your Rage provides you with Energy Drain immunity for its duration.
• Green Augment Slot
• Yellow Augment Slot

currently the ravenloft quest armors are the only source of a stacking +9 to all saves (parry +9) wich meant all the raid armors were basically sentient food
unless it pops up on new gear, i don't see why people would pick this over a year old one (by the time this comes out.)
Btw, leaf skirt with mismatched hip and shoulder pieces, looks like ****

Nullcloth Armor Heavy Armor

• Nullmagic Guard (on being struck, has a chance to silence your foe)
• PRR +52
• Fortification 208%
• Will Saves +16
• Magical Null (15% penalty to spell failure)
• Green Augment Slot
• Yellow Augment Slot

same here.
Last year, one of the biggest fails in terms of gear was the split between all the necessary stats, slave-lords gear was far superior to all the gear made the 2 years that followed, simply because sheltering and saves were on 1 enh each, there are still people running around with 2-5 pieces instead of ravenloft sets because of this.
I understand that you try to force players to make hard choices when it comes to gearing but it's unexceptionable to those on the front lines, as a tank i can't afford to skip a (stat to a) save or mrr/prr.
in the past, bigger packs (eGH, e-Necro4, slavelords, etc) had sets of gear that covered the bases, with smaller packs covering gaps by offering small bits and pieces. Ravenloft was a mess, gear wise, please stop doing that, put prr&mrr back in 1 enh, please put the saves back in 1 enh. Or update the augment system so we can fill in the blanks.
Also, a rehash of older armor with blue dragonscale bits on it?

Clouded Dreams Ring

• Exceptional Potency +20
• Exceptional Spell Lore +10%
• Insightful Spell Focus Mastery +4
• Improved Nightmare Guard (DC 100)
• Mind Drain (-5% Max Spell Points)
• -4 Will Saves
• Green Augment Slot
• Yellow Augment Slot

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

Should have made propper madstone boots, like the heroic one, not the epic crappy one

Trinket of Freewill Trinket

• Mind Control Immunity
• Magical Resistance Rating +52
• Spell Resistance +46
• Insightful Wisdom +9
• Green Augment Slot
• Blue Augment Slot

Like the original, make it a helmet, btw, is 46 SR really something useful at that lv?





OTHER WEAPONS:

These weapons will also be included in Update 40, although their acquisition method will be a little different than most methods. More details to come when the rest of the Update is a little further along. You can expect to have to run raid-level content to access these.

The Reflection of Blackrazor Greatsword
Damage Dice: 7[2d6+6] (+2W from Keen)

• Soul Devouring: On hit, applies a stack of Soul Scar - Reduces AC, Fortification, and Will Saves by 1, stacks 20 times. On hit, Blackrazor can attempt to devour the Soul of a non-boss monster (DC 100 Phantasmal Killer vs Will negates, no effect vs mobs at 5,000 or more HP). When you kill a target, this adds a stack of Devoured Soul to you, max 20, which provides a profane bonus of 1 to Damage and Melee power per stack. Killing an enemy with this weapon also grants you one Soul. On Block or unequip, consumed souls are released. Souls last for 20 seconds.
• Keen V
• Entropic (Bane damage on hit)
• Vampirism 4d2
• Mind Control Immunity
• Red Augment Slot
• Orange Augment Slot

Still has a poor crit profile and no moving stars.

Reflection of Angdrelve Greatsword
Damage Dice: 5[2d6+6]

• Chance to cause confusion on-hit, also does 9d6 chaos damage to confused targets - lawful characters take a neg level
• 9d6 Acid Damage on-hit
• 5 Constitution Damage on-hit
• Legendary Slay Living proc (DC 100)
• Red Augment Slot
• Orange Augment Slot

another trash beater?




Thanks for reading, and please let us know what you think!


IMPORTANT TO NOTE

• Character Copies to Lamannia are not available for Preview 1.

boooooo!

[Fivetigers33]

Please *do not* do this. Insightful Devotion is a hard stat to slot while insightful charisma comes in several places now. Plus if a bard is looking to get the Anthem effect they'll probably want to wear Softsoul Slippers that already have Insight Charisma 9 on them. I think this item has a nice mix of stats for a bard-focused item.

Thank you for making my point for me. There's currently 1 decent item in the game with insightful charisma, the Softsole Slippers. Sure there's Lenses of the Orator, but it's a trash item for pretty much any Charisma build.

For insightful devotion, you can stick with Null, the Darkness Without or the Legendary Many-Pouched Belt of the Healer. Heck, even a Morninglord's Scepter or Pansophic Circlet are still decent items. Nobody needs that much devotion.

[Lokeal_The_Flame]

Everything is looking nice but frankly I'd still like to see a sentient filigree set........ something that gives you a non-stacking form of Aura Of Menace at four pieces and vampirism at three pieces would be a dream come true!

[Vish]

As per the notes above, it has +1 base critical multiplier. We are aware that the Lamannia version does not reflect what is written above.

Hey I was asking for a melee staff
I don't care the effects much
But could we get it 18-20 x3 ?

U said eventually, I'm hoping that means u40
Thx
Vish

[Valerianus]

armors need parry

and pretty please, use sheltering.

[Arkat]

I too, would like to echo the need for an expanded critical threat range on the Staff of Shadow.

18-20/x3 would seem appropriate considering what the Sword of Shadow's crit profile is.

[PsychoBlonde]

I do NOT get why Bracers of the Mountain gets Insightful spell penetration. Everything else about that item screams "this is for melee defenses!" and then you put insightful spell penetration on it. That makes zero sense.

[karatemack]

I do NOT get why Bracers of the Mountain gets Insightful spell penetration. Everything else about that item screams "this is for melee defenses!" and then you put insightful spell penetration on it. That makes zero sense.

Warpriest/War Souls need gear too! (oh, and EK too I guess)

[DrawingGuy]

As per the notes above, it has +1 base critical multiplier. We are aware that the Lamannia version does not reflect what is written above.

As others have said, please expand the crit range as well. That would fit better with the Sword of Shadows theme, and I think is needed. Please give it 18-20/x3 or at least a 19-20/x3 (as a staff does have a 1 smaller crit range than gsword). If needed, we can start breaking out games of number crunching. Things don't need to be the same, but still think it should be a bigger step up from a Stout Oak Walking Stick.

[PsychoBlonde]

Elyd Charm Necklace
•Anthem
•Charisma +20
•Insightful Devotion +104
•When you have 3 or more sources of Anthem, this grants exceptional 30 sonic spell power and 15% sonic spell lore
•Green Augment Slot
•Yellow Augment Slot



Please consider changing Insightful Devotion to Insightful Charisma.

While Devotion is useful to Bards, it's not nearly as useful as Charisma. The item looked pretty cool until I saw that. If you want bards to replace their Bells of Warding, the current version isn't going to do it.

I'd rather have insightful Resonance. Items with insightful Resonance currently in the game: BIG FAT ZERO. It's crafted or nothing.

[PsychoBlonde]

Warpriest/War Souls need gear too! (oh, and EK too I guess)

"Some weird niche build could potentially use this" is not a reason to make incoherent items with random nonsense bonuses.