Necro Barbarian for Damonzz

[Tilomere]

I totally ripped off ifumoveudie's build to make this.

Damonzz wanted a caster that could deal damage in reaper, so I decided to make him one. Since no traditional caster is allowed to deal damage in higher reaper to enforce trinity game play (casters are all relegated to healer supports), we are starting with a pure 20 barbarian as our DC casting platform.

Barbarians have a unique instant kill, Visage of Terror, as the Ravage Capstone that instant kills up to six nearby enemies on an opposed stat check, based on Con. Since this bypasses additional saves in reaper, it is easier to land in reaper due to Con available in the reaper enhancement tree. Visage is not a spell, so is not subject to spell resistance, and will kill even things like wisps that are otherwise very difficult to DC cast on. So we want a max-con build.

But, for Damonzz, we also want casting. The heroic spell book doesn’t scale into epics, and all dps spells suck in higher reaper, so we will only add in instant-kill DC casting from Mass Frog. Mass Frog bypasses deathward and works on basically everything, so combined with Visage of Terror above it will wipe out the rest of the group. Mass Frog is based on wisdom and Transmutation DC, so we also want a high wisdom build. As a high wisdom build, we also might as well avail ourselves to healing hands.

We can then dire charge into the champs with death ward, hit Mass Frog to kill 5 mobs including the DW champs, then rage and hit Visage to kill 6 more, then start to melee.

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Race: Aasimar or Aasimar Scourge
Class 20 Barbarian Chaotic Good

Enhancements:
41 AP Ravager C6, T5, 6 Constitution, Aura -2 all stats, -2 will saves on crit, Hardy Rage
13 FB Extra Rages, Supreme Cleave
7 Racial AP Aasimar/Scourge, Healing Handsx3, 2 Wisdom (Fixed - thx Unbongwah!)
26 AP Falconry (Wis to hit/dmg/ktax2), expose weakness, coordinated strike, 2 Con

Heroic Feats: Magical Training, PA-GC, THFx3,
Epic Feats: OC, Completionist, IC:X, Arcane Insight or Embolden
Destiny Feats: PTHF, Mass Frog, Dire Charge, Plane of Earth

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Gear:
Goggles: Cannith Crafted Blindness Immunity, Melee Alacrity, Ins. Wisdom
Head: Slave Lords Sorcery: http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Legenda...ioner%27s_Helm
Neck: http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Legenda...cribed_Pendant
Trinket: http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Bloodrage_Chrism
Aasimar Armor: http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Coat_of_Van_Richten
Scourge Armor: http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Legenda...f_the_Traveler
Cloak: http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Legendary_Mantle_of_Fury
Bracers: http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Legenda...led_Packbanner
Belt: Slave Lords Sorcery: Wisdom 17, Accuracy 28, Stunning 20, Quality Wisdom 4
Ring 1: Slave Lords Sorcery: Sheltering 45, Resistance 14, UMD 7, Quality Con
Gloves: http://ddowiki.com/page/Cannith_Craf...able_1b#Gloves (Acid Spell Power, Ins. Tactics, Ins. Accuracy)
Ring 2: Slave Lords Sorcery: Strength 17, Armor Piercing, Tendon Slice, Quality MRR
Boots: Slave Lords Sorcery: Dex 17,Deception, Concentration, Quality PRR, Augment: Wizardry
Mass Frog Weapon Swap 1: http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Nightmother%27s_Sceptre with sentient Ottos +Eye of The Beholder 4 DC and 1 Wisdom
Mass Frog Weapon Swap 2: http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Legenda...lator_of_Minds
Main Weapon: Torn with Prowess, Alt weapon 2h Blunt with Blood Feast



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We can't cast while raged, but we want to be raged for Visage DC, so we will create a rotation that allows both as best as possible, tweak as u see fit for dungeon:

2 minute Barb Rage/Frog/Visage Rotation:

1 sec Mass Frog > 2 sec Tensor's + Rage >3 sec Visage > 33 sec Visage > 63 sec Visage > 64 sec Dismiss Rage > 65 sec Mass Frog > 94 sec Visage without Rage > repeat at 125 sec

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Epic Destiny:
LD with Conx6
Twists: Sense Weakness, Fade into Darkness, Spell Focus Transmutation (from prior life, but can't feat swap this life to keep), Acute Instincts, Primal Scream

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Constitution
18 base + 7 level + 8 tome +4 Racials + 19/9/4/2/1 items and augments +6 ravager +2 falconer +5 primal scream +4 Tensor’s +2 ship +2 yugo +11 rage +6 ED +2 feat +4 Reaper +4 reaper helm/remnatn pot = 120 Con most of the time (1 in 4 Visage’s at 105 Con.)

75DC Visage, but opposed stat check not will save so ignores reaper scaling and should land easily.

Dire Charge DC 55 (Con 120) + 30 levels base + 21 wisdom KTA untyped +6 LD + 3 PL + 20 SL Crafting + 6 Insightful = 141 DC

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Wisdom
20 base +8 tome + 4 racials +17/7/4/2/3/2 items and augments +2 racial enhancements +2 Acute instincts +2 ship +2 yugo +2 feat+4 Reaper +1 Sentient +4 reaper helm/remnant pots = 94 Wisdom

Mass Frog DC:
30 Level + 7/4/2/4/2 Gear and Augments +3 Twist +42 Stat +4 Feats (averaging Arcane Insight) +3 Reaper +4 DC Sentient = 105 DC Mass Frog

Save + Stat Debuffs: Dire Charging in will activate -2 will saves from crits, and aura will give -2 all stats.

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PRR will be very good, with additional PRR from Scion of Earth (20), Bloodrage Chrism (30), barb wearing medium armor 45 plus bonus 10, on top of blitz 30, sheltering 52, quality sheltering 11, enhancements 12, and past lives 36. Probably more I'm missing.

MRR will likewise be fairly good.

HP will be bonkers, since we have a Con build, especially with the new epic melee defensive feat available to be toggled on giving 25% more.

Healing with blood feast filligree + Visage + blood strength (bypassing reaper) comboing off each other will be fantastic, combined with healing hands on a wisdom build is going to be gnarly.

Plus we get the new 11% damage reduction that barbs get instead of DR in the next patch.

Fortification bypass will be 28% slavers + 5% ship + 50% falconry + 30% Torn = 113%

DPS, well, it won't be monk, but its better than any other DC caster in the game.

[Domince]

Why not a pure fvs? They can do DC and get mass frog by using wisdom for their stats and they can deal significant danmage via sunbolt. They can have two sunbolts at once from EA and one of their enanchment trees. As a plus they are able to be decently tanky with heavy armor and or a shield and have a lot of hit points and be able to heal everyone.

[lyrecono]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Absolutely wonderfull

Who knew, dps based melees are so screwed, you're better off making it a caster and beating them in their own game?

I knew about the vissage, the wisdom/frog/racial lay on hands is just a disgustingly good combo.
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[unbongwah]

41 AP Ravager C6, T5, 6 Constitution, Aura -2 all stats, -2 will saves on crit, Hardy Rage
13 FB Extra Rages, Supreme Cleave
13 Racial AP Aasimar, Healing Handsx3, Arcanumx3, 2 Wisdom
26 AP Falconry (Wis to hit/dmg/ktax2), expose weakness, coordinated strike, 2 Con

This is 93 APs not 92 the current max.

just Wisdom
19 base +8 tome + 18/7/4/2/3/2 items and augments +2 racial enhancements +2 Acute instincts +2 ship +2 yugo +2 feat+4 Reaper +1 Sentient = 86 Wisdom

Why are you starting at 19 instead of 20? STR 12 (+5 tome) CON 18 WIS 20 base; feats MT (1), PA (3), CL (6), IC (9), GC (12), THF (15), ITHF (18), GTHF (21), OC (24) etc.

[Grace_ana]

Hahahahahahahahahahaha

Absolutely wonderfull

Who knew, dps based melees are so screwed, you're better off making it a caster and beating them in their own game?

I knew about the vissage, the wisdom/frog/racial lay on hands is just a disgustingly good combo.
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Um...

Damonzz wanted a caster that could deal damage in reaper

This is literally the exact opposite of what you just said.

Just stop.

[Fedora1]

Of all the builds I have seen posted over the years, this is one of the most interesting and simple concepts I have seen.

Waiting for others to confirm viability or tear it to shreds. lol

[AzureDragonas]

I see terrible issue with build, where is Grandmaster for one more massive aoe instakill? :P

[Enoach]

well maybe not Necro but I was thinking a way to combine casting with melee would be the Druid/Barbarian

15 Druid/5 Barbarian - using the Dire Bear or Winter Wolf and the new trees best suited for these two forms. With Earthquake and Finger of Death being available.

This would allow you to still be Mass Frog capable but also give you more of a Shaman feel the hybrid caster/melee

[lyrecono]

Um...

This is literally the exact opposite of what you just said.

Just stop.

grow a sense of humor, or go buy yourself a clue

I see terrible issue with build, where is Grandmaster for one more massive aoe instakill? :P

86 wisdom....
DC 10 + character level + WIS mod
83 will save DC, pretty sure it won't be enough, unless i'm missing pieces of the equation.



talking about saves, your will and fort saves should be fine but what about reflex?

[Tilomere]

Ahh thx all for feedback, updated and improved it a bit! This is just a bit of amusement for me.

This is 93 APs not 92 the current max.

Why are you starting at 19 instead of 20?

Ahh fixed AP. We don't need arcanum for spell points we can just click on lost souls.

Starting at 19 because it just works out to be even after gear that way. This frees up 3 build points for higher starting strength.

Also forgot and added in Racial Completionist +4 all stats, since Damonzz has it, and mostly corrected the PRR.

talking about saves, your will and fort saves should be fine but what about reflex?

It's going to be terrorble! We could bump it up a bit by using slavers for dex, and augmenting in wizardry, since lost souls will be enough for a once a minute Mass Frog. Hmm if we swap to Scourge we get ghost touch innately and 5% double strike, and can swap to http://ddowiki.com/page/Item:Legenda...f_the_Traveler for +9 parrying to all saves and AC, but lose ghostly. I'll put that as an option.

Waiting for others to confirm viability or tear it to shreds. lol

I'm waiting for someone to jinx and doom it with a inb4 nerf and some comment about abusing power creep, heh. The last enhancement tree that came out Vish and I worked on a build and the build got deleted with extreme prejudice from the game. It wasn't even a top ranged DPS build, shurikens still were . It had smoother leveling though.

Edit: Shurikens have subsequently been deleted from the game as well with extreme prejudice.

Why not a pure fvs? They can do DC and get mass frog by using wisdom for their stats and they can deal significant danmage via sunbolt.

Because that wouldn't be as amusing to me.
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Do rage pots stack with primal scream? Am I missing any other reasonable DCs?

Updated gear list in OP.

[unbongwah]

Do rage pots stack with primal scream?

If you're talking about the Rage spell: no, they're both morale bonuses, so they don't stack. If you're talking about the Yugoloth potion: yes, they do, although you probably don't want the attack speed penalty from the CON potion.

[Tilomere]

If you're talking about the Rage spell: no, they're both morale bonuses, so they don't stack. If you're talking about the Yugoloth potion: yes, they do, although you probably don't want the attack speed penalty from the CON potion.

Don't worry too much about it. No one is going to make a build like this anyways. Combined with electric gibzilla and Call to Soundburst(Paladin), you now have a couple examples of dual stat DC casting/fighting at the same time, as well as healing and being decently tanky. Maybe this opens up some new build options for you!

[Jetrule]

Great concept. I ran a visage barb life twa dwarf. I like the aasmiar wis and falconry version better I think for dire charge dcs and helpless damage. Just a minor quibble but legendary slavers craft items provide +17 stats not 18. Maybe run legendary scales of the exile and scorpions tail for +2 more artifact con and+9/9 insightful con and wis.

[Tilomere]

Great concept. I ran a visage barb life twa dwarf. I like the aasmiar wis and falconry version better I think for dire charge dcs and helpless damage. Just a minor quibble but legendary slavers craft items provide +17 stats not 18. Maybe run legendary scales of the exile and scorpions tail for +2 more artifact con and+9/9 insightful con and wis.

Fixed by starting 20 instead of 19 wisdom. I even have a slavers set, but I've been doing racials so long I forgot. It takes like 30 different things to make a DC up nowadays, it's hard to keep it all straight.

[Vish]

Man, just play a cleric already
Too much workaround for one spell

[Tilomere]

Man, just play a cleric already
Too much workaround for one spell

I don't want to intrude on your schtick. Your doing great. DC casting barbarian field was wide open.

Edit: added Torn in as weapon, which frees a twist up for Meld into Darkness due to innate fortification bypass/armor destruction.

[zwiebelring]

That reads like a parody. Absolutely loving it.

Me: Hey, dude, I want a caster dishing out dps and kill masses...

Tilo: Cool, first take 20 Barbarian...

Me: Oo...

Tilo: What??

So awesome. I will do this one!

[ifumoveudie]

I had not even thought about that little gem when I first laid out my Visage build. I may have to give your idea a swing and see what happens.

[blerkington]

The barbarian builds I've encountered in game like this one seem to have a few things in common. Very good HP, an effective instakill for some types of trash and pretty ordinary boss DPS. So it's hard to die on them and they seem to be making a contribution because they can do quite well in the kill count, but they are possibly a lot less useful than other melee builds when it comes to boss-killing time.

My impression may not be accurate about the true potential of this sort of build because I haven't seen that many of them around. And if nothing else, this thread is a funny commentary on where we can end up by trying to build for superficial effectiveness in reaper. But if I were in a group doing harder stuff, depending on what else was in the group I'd likely prefer to see a cc/instakill caster or another melee with better DPS instead.

Thanks.

[ifumoveudie]

The barbarian builds I've encountered in game like this one seem to have a few things in common. Very good HP, an effective instakill for some types of trash and pretty ordinary boss DPS. So it's hard to die on them and they seem to be making a contribution because they can do quite well in the kill count, but they are possibly a lot less useful than other melee builds when it comes to boss-killing time.

My impression may not be accurate about the true potential of this sort of build because I haven't seen that many of them around. And if nothing else, this thread is a funny commentary on where we can end up by trying to build for superficial effectiveness in reaper. But if I were in a group doing harder stuff, depending on what else was in the group I'd likely prefer to see a cc/instakill caster or another melee with better DPS instead.

Thanks.

I have personally taken my Visage build into Reaper content, and done quite well. As you stated, it is not a perfect DPS build, but then it was meant in the beginning to see just how high the DC for Visage of Terror could go. At cap and in R5+, my build does not shine, but in lower Reaper content, it can bang up right out front and contribute to dropping groups and after adding a 5 piece Blood Feast, and the new melee HP boost, it became even more lasting.

So while I definitely see your point, I feel like this could be one of the more fun builds to run around with, PK'ing and Frogging everything around you.