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    Default Help with THF PDK Paladin/fighter build

    I was think of trying a THF pally build with fighter for my next life. I just picked up a Blackrazor and would like to give a Two Handed Fighting build a shot with great swords and cleaves.
    let me know how this looks and any tips or suggestions would be great.

    PDF for the bonus feat and Favored by Helm for Bastard sword proficiency so I could just do an Enhancement/Destiny reset and switch to sword and board and be a bit more tanky if needed. I'm in a small guild so I end up filling multiple rolls

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    PDK THF DPS 12 Pally 8 Fighter
    Level 30 Lawful Good Purple Dragon Knight Female
    (8 Fighter \ 12 Paladin \ 10 Epic) 
    
    Past Life
    Barbarian x 3
    Artificer x 3
    Rogue x 1
    
    
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 30)
    Strength             18                    34
    Dexterity            12                    19
    Constitution         16                    23
    Intelligence          8                    15
    Wisdom                8                    15
    Charisma             14                    21
    
    Tomes Used
    +7 Tome Supreme
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 2 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Deity) Favored by Helm
    
    
    Level 3 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Cleave
    Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    
    
    Level 5 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Critical
    
    
    Level 6 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 7 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 8 (Fighter)
    
    
    Level 9 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 10 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 11 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 12 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 13 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 14 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 15 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder
    
    
    Level 16 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 17 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 18 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    
    
    Level 19 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 20 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Dodge
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Primal Sphere: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Divine Sphere: Holy Strike
    
    
    Level 29 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Dire Charge
    
    
    Level 30 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Martial Sphere: Tactician
    Feat: (Legendary) Scion of the Astral Plane
    
    Enhancments
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Human Versatility: Saves Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Action Surge: Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Spiritual Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strike With No Thought (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Exotic Weapon Mastery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Tactics (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Critical Mastery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Critical Mastery (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Critical Mastery (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Shattering Strike (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Shattering Strike (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Shattering Strike (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strike at the Heart (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Slayer of Evil I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Slayer of Evil II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Light (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Light (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Light (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Cleave (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Cleave (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Cleave (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Action Boost: Melee/Ranged Power (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Action Boost: Melee/Ranged Power (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Action Boost: Melee/Ranged Power (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Restoration (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Demons (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Passion (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Empowered Smite (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Censure Outsiders (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Avenging Cleave (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Avenging Cleave (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Avenging Cleave (Rank 3)
    
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    Presuming this is for a pally PL, pal 12 is not a great stopping point. Most people go to pal 14 at least for Holy Sword (or Zeal), although HS doesn't stack with Kensei crit threat range bonuses.

    Also you didn't invest anything into Sacred or Stalwart Defender which is...unusual.
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    Updated - 14 levels of paladin and moved enhancements around

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    Palladin THF 
    Level 30 Lawful Good Purple Dragon Knight Female
    (6 Fighter \ 14 Paladin \ 10 Epic) 
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 30)
    Strength             18                    34
    Dexterity            10                    17
    Constitution         16                    23
    Intelligence         10                    17
    Wisdom                8                    15
    Charisma             14                    21
    
    Tomes Used
    +7 Tome Supreme
     
    Level 1 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Human Bonus) Cleave
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Barbarian
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Attack
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 2 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 3 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Stunning Blow
    
    
    Level 4 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Power Critical
    
    
    Level 5 (Fighter)
    
    
    Level 6 (Fighter)
    Feat: (Selected) Great Cleave
    Feat: (Fighter Bonus) Weapon Specialization: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 7 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Deity) Favored by Helm
    
    
    Level 8 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 9 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 11 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 12 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Slashing Weapons
    
    
    Level 13 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 14 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 15 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Greater Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 16 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 17 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 18 (Paladin)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Sunder
    
    
    Level 19 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 20 (Paladin)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Dodge
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Primal Sphere: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Blinding Speed
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Divine Sphere: Holy Strike
    
    
    Level 29 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Dire Charge
    
    
    Level 30 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Martial Sphere: Tactician
    Feat: (Legendary) Scion of the Astral Plane
    Enhancements
    Enhancement: Purple Dragon Knight - Human Versatility: Defense Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Spiritual Bond (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strike With No Thought (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Extra Action Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Exotic Weapon Mastery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Kensei Weapon Specialization: Heavy Blades (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Shattering Strike (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Shattering Strike (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Shattering Strike (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Kensei (Ftr) - Strike at the Heart (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Slayer of Evil I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Slayer of Evil II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Improved Courage of Heaven (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Turning (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Light (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Light (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Light (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Extra Smite (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Might (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Cleave (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Cleave (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Cleave (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Action Boost: Melee/Ranged Power (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Action Boost: Melee/Ranged Power (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Action Boost: Melee/Ranged Power (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Divine Sacrifice (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Exalted Smite (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Passion (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Empowered Smite (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Strength (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Holy Retribution (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Avenging Cleave (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Avenging Cleave (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Knight of the Chalice (Pal) - Avenging Cleave (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Holy Bastion (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Resilient Defense (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Armor Mastery (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Armor Mastery (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Sacred Armor Mastery (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Bulwark Aura (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Bulwark Aura (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Bulwark Aura (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Sacred Defender (Pal) - Durable Defense (Rank 2)

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    You should really mix in Fighter and Paladin levels as you level up, to optimize when you get certain class abilities, enhancements, feats, optimal spending of your skill points, etc. It actually takes a bit of planning to get it right. I wrote this down at one point, but some basic benchmarks to consider are:
    -Cleave and Great Cleave ASAP
    -LoH for emergency heals as soon as you can manage, which is helpful in Reaper (if you run that)
    -Ghost touch as soon as you can, if you run reaper

    I'd go with something like the following:

    Level 1 - Fighter 1 / PDK: Power Attack, Cleave, Two-Handed Fighting - Haste Boost in Kensai
    Level 2 - Paladin 1
    Level 3 - Paladin 2: Stunning Blow, Lay on Hands
    Level 4 - Fighter 2: Great Cleave
    Level 5 - Paladin 3
    Level 6 - Paladin 4: Improved Two Handed Fighting
    Level 7 - Paladin 5
    Level 8 - Paladin 6: Ghost Touch in KotC tree
    Level 9 - Fighter 3: Improved Critical
    Level 10 - Fighter 4: Weapon Focus
    Level 11 - Fighter 5:
    Level 12 - Fighter 6: Weapon Specialization, Greater Two Weapon Fighting, Kensai tier 5 & level 6 core
    Level 13 to 20 - Paladin 7 - 14 w/ Quicken & Empower Healing at 15 & 18 (Quicken for Resurrection, Empower Healing for your Cure spells)
    Level 21 - Overwhelming Crit
    Level 24 - Tactical Training
    Level 26 - Tactician
    Level 27 - Epic Damage Reduction (you can get the equivalent of haste on an item, but Blinding Speed otherwise)
    Level 28 - Perfect Two Handed Fighting
    Level 29 - Dire Charge or Deific Warding
    Level 30 - Scion of Arborea or Scion of Astral Plan & Choice

    Stunning DC
    Okay, so I focused on having as high a DC as I could while leveling, and I was able to maintain a great DC in heroics on elite or R1 using Cannith Crafted gear and maxing out Strength. In epics I mostly ran Epic Hard and that worked great up until I hit Legendary, where my stun DC become very unreliable, but I think that had more to do with the fact I hadn't gathered up a Legendary gear set yet, hadn't put in the time for Fighter past lives yet, etc. Generally speaking though, it was pretty disappointing since I was only running on hard, that after focusing on DCs, sacrificing feats, enhancements, ingredients for CC gear, etc that the DC really fell off in effectiveness. I had wanted to stay at cap for a bit, but I TRd as soon as I realized this was the case. In any event, I just wanted to pass along my experience.

    Scion of the Astral Plane
    I had taken this as well, per your build, but found I didn't get the bonus +4 to doublestrike even though I should have been centered. Also, FYI the +4 to stunning DCs didn't push my stun DCs into reliable territory in Legendary Hard quests.

    Enhancements
    I won't detail these out, but I ended up with 34 in Kensai (way too good to pass up), about 28 in Defender (lots of good stuff in tier 4, plus take the 4th core for a quickened resurrection), and the rest in Knight (Divine Might & Heal Amp).
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