Melee Survivability Changes Feedback Thread

[noobodyfool]

And yet this isn't a melee buff. It is a Monk/Ranger/Barbarian DPS buff. Fighters, Paladins, and tank builds which don't buy a weapon line of feats can go jump in a lake. A change intended for melee which excludes 2/5 of the melee classes and any build which isn't purely DPS isn't a 'melee buff' and should not be referred to as such.

At 50% it was a melee buff for Fighters, Paladins but you guys fought it so this is the the compromise we get your fault thanks

And yet they are still doing exactly that. If reaper didn't exist there would be zero cry for melee buffs. Before reaper existed there was a little consternation over how to handle a very few mobs such as Sorjek in Legendary Tempest's Spine. But the devs didn't nerf Sorjeck, they instead allowed the player community figure out how to handle that fight. This is a direct nerf to reaper mode, and should not be implemented. Dumbing down the highest difficulty level cannot be a winning strategy for a game.

It not for you sorry about your luck but good news you can still be meta

Why was reaper implemented in the first place? Because Elite was becoming trivial for the veteran players. So what is the logic behind implementing a change that makes things easier in reaper mode, when there is ample evidence that reaper mode is already becoming trivial due to the reaper enhancement trees? This is a pointless nerf to reaper.

This brings me great joy
maybe you can play alts

[Niminae]

This brings me great joy
maybe you can play alts

I'm glad it brings you joy to see unbalanced and unneeded changes introduced to the game. I'm not sure what you mean by playing alts, but then I'm not used to seeing a lot of sense from your posts so this is really nothing new.

[noobodyfool]

I'm glad it brings you joy to see unbalanced and unneeded changes introduced to the game.

It brings me great joy to see the game balanced outside of what the R10 crowed is doing.

I'm not sure what you mean by playing alts.

Roll a new character find out what its like to play without all you past lives and uber gear you might enjoy it.

[Nubom70]

Yeah, we tested it again after the update. Same result as before. Couldn't cross heal in reaper, the melee was flanking
the same mob, and was still out of range. The SWF bard couldn't randomly support heal with it on, same range issue.

Paladin couldn't use it at all, nothing for shields. Should have skipped coding a toggle and just made weapon/shield feat passive HP bonuses so it was useful.

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[bloodnose13]

Yeah, we tested it again after the update. Same result as before. Couldn't cross heal in reaper, the melee was flanking
the same mob, and was still out of range. The SWF bard couldn't randomly support heal with it on, same range issue.

Paladin couldn't use it at all, nothing for shields. Should have skipped coding a toggle and just made weapon/shield feat passive HP bonuses so it was useful.

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its even worse for paladin, since the 5% that everyone should get with or without combat style feats, does not stack with the % bonus from defender stance thanks to the change in effect type of the stance, but you still get penalties. (still everything stacks nicely with racial bonus from aasimar, giveing that race clear advantage, in my opinion it should not stack either)

another thing i noticed after it arrived on live server, was that after i tried turning it on and off on my cleric, it broke all aoe healing spells, aoe healed only target, but it did not affect anyone else, and it was off, i had to relog to fix it.

[Niminae]

It brings me great joy to see the game balanced outside of what the R10 crowed is doing.

This new feat doesn't do anything at all towards that end, so your enthusiasm is misplaced. It in fact further increases imbalance by denying Fighters and Paladins any benefit while providing the full benefit to Rangers, Monks, and Barbarians.

Roll a new character find out what its like to play without all you past lives and uber gear you might enjoy it.

I don't expect you to keep track of everyone's uberness status on the forums, and I'm not interested in including this in my sig like some others do, so I'll just say again:

- I do not have a single completionist character
- I have one single epic completionist character.
- I have zero racial past lives across all of my characters.

I'm not playing with all of the limitations of a new player, but many of my characters are not terribly far away from that. So I have a very good idea what it is like to play without all of the advantages that are enjoyed by a more prolific and/or efficient player or simply one who has played for longer than I have. I am neither jealous nor bitter about those advantages. They give me goals to strive to achieve, which is essential for a game to hold my interest.