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    Default Level 16

    Level 16
    Ok going 15/1. Got holy sword, got full bab. Fighting pretty hard, dying regularly to test the toon. Big advantages are now 7 use of regen hands, and death pact. I'm still a little too Zerg, memories of the duality monk.
    But I've been working the tier5s. The killer bird works, but you gotta isolate and lead with it. It usually kills. Kills champs too. And using the aoe bird. That's another leader. It seems to go off whether I hit or not. Not sure, I need a lot more practice with these attacks. And then there's the heal one. Not really that good, but maybe in a cycle. Again I'm just spot testing them now, and haven't found any kind of rotation yet.
    And with holy sword, my crits are over 200. But I'm still not seeing a lot of crits, but good enough. Now I'm in higher heroics and everything has lots more hp. And it takes a while to whittle some mobs down without the crit. Doing like 60 otherwise. So lotta swings. But that give me time to measure my hp, and measure my defense. 51 AC with like 60 prr. So like I said, I die regularly. I'm learning the build and what tricks I have. Still combat cast, still play the healer, but most of the time I am attacking.
    But better than I expected. It will also get better as I play it more, and better yet when I get to epics. I only got like 500 hp reaper, so I wait till about 150 health to heal. But that gets me killed sometimes. I usually use hands, they heal for like 800 elite or full heal in reaper. I use heal spells to top up. Unless there is hire or another healer in the group. But that's hit or miss. So much so far has been self heals in reaper. Also, gained couple points, up to 13.
    Ya, gonna forgo the last two levels for fighter. So I won't have stalwart until 20. Even tho I could use the hp. But would rather have implosion at 18. I'm thinking of taking maximize at 18, then taking gswf at 19 as fighter. The maximize would be for burst, which is only cleric tree I'm using. Kinda sad warpriest sucks so bad. But I do use bursts, kinda of as a topper for the other toons. Works when there's melee in the group. But most don't have lots hp so a good heal works just fine. But bursts are only thing makes me look like a cleric.
    Gonna save the assassinate gloves for 21. I'll get more use of them. Oh ya, that's the difference. Max dex allowed by heavy armor. I put on the planar focus trinket and swapped to my dex gloves, but my AC didn't go up. Oh well, some heal amp and reflex saves.
    Also, gotta go looking for improved vorpal khopesh. I know I have some, will have to look on my khopesh mule. Just haven't yet, kinda leveled up fast past few days. Or I could use that bastard sword from tethymar? I got like two of them. Ok another mule to check. I got lotta loots to stash anyway. Pulled a couple helms from the disciples chain. And got some loot I need to feed to sentient.
    Ok I may post at 18 after I test implosion. Or I may just wait until I'm 20. Depends how I get along this next week.
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    Default Level 18

    Level 18
    Ok took 18 and went implosion
    This changes the direction of the build. From dps heals, to caster cleric. Mostly ran a few quests, but I led a high road,with some other average toon, and gave implosion a wide run.
    Found that I aggro then gather mobs, then toss out a quickened implosion. Most of the time it goes off, but I've had a few instances where it did not. Further investigating why, I don't think I got hit and it cancelled. But it's a different game. You stand there and watch mobs get eaten. Its much better than dps. And it's a relatively quick recycling spell, so you can usually cast it each new mob group.
    Like I said I was running high road quests, and it completely changed my dynamic. I also got destruction, so a single tgt instakiller. But it doesn't always work reliably. Then there's soundburst, for dps mobs. So I'm finding I go more cleric than dps now. Instead of running in and killing stuff, I stand back and gather mobs and hit implosion. Kills very nicely. When it goes off. Will need more practice, but it's a serious time saver over swf.
    Overall, I'm finding this to be a very versatile build. It's got dps, it's got casting, and it's got heals. Not a radiant, but going aasimar for regen loh is the saver here. Mostly to save your own butt, but saves others too. And a quickened heal spell for most other needs. Haven't needed to cast any mass cures, doesn't seem you ever get enough melees in a group for it to be practical. Usually one toon gets the aggro, and you just have to keep him alive. So easy to do with a heal.
    And of course being a wisdom build, you get full sp, so my sp pool at 18 is like 1600. I find I have plenty mana to cast implosion and heals, and there is still loh.
    At 18 I took maximize. Just testing the waters on this. Since with bird attacks and a cleave I seem to be well situated. Don't seem to need the great cleave, at least hasnt been too many mobs where I'm just cleaving away. That's what implosion is for now, and just mopping up what's left with swf. So I'll take gswf at ftr2 at 19, then stalwart d at 20. Should only add about 100hp, but the 25 prr mrr will really help. Also put some ap into max db, and that got AC up to 57. Really I wish I could run with a shield, but thought swf would be better dps. Plus, I'll be running with a sf orb at 30, so it fits the casting side of the build. But it's mostly gonna be caster with good secondary dps. So some use in boss fights.
    Ya, I can't believe the dynamic has changed. With implosion I got an aoe instakiller, it takes some time to work, but it's much better for the build. It makes me real happy this is working out as planned.
    Also, the build has bursts for group healing, the maximize seemed to double the amount of heals, and there is turning too, which drops mp on the build. I have like 20 turns, so like an unlimited amount. Overall a sweet cleric build.
    Will post again at 20 for divine crusader stats.
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    Default Level 20 stat and comment

    Level 20
    Str 28
    Dex 29
    Con 37
    Int 29
    Wis 55
    Cha 35
    Hp 743
    Hamp 82
    Sp 1998
    Pos 177
    AC 57
    Dodge 6/6
    Fort 40
    Reflex 29
    Will 50
    Bab 15/20
    Doublestrike 0
    Melee speed 38
    Melee power 46
    Sr 0
    Fort 116
    Prr 111
    Mrr 49

    Ap
    43 bird man
    15 stalwart d
    13 radiant
    9 aasimar

    Imp vorpal of feeding 2w1d8 16-20 x4 +60 +58

    Notes
    Finally made it to 20
    This was quite the journey
    Fighting hard and casting heals on yourself just to stay alive. A fairly decent fighter will heals and a couple tricks. The bird attacks are not inherent yet, they kinda seem extra. An instakiller, an aoe and a heal. I don't use the 10% damage. May take it later when I'm raiding, for boss beat down. But I don't find it that useful for the ap.
    So only gear that changed, was a ring of prowess, and put on the executioners helm. Still need a better cloak, but I have a mysterious at 21. So I'll use that. Also, found a paralyzer khopesh, and a ml15 improved vorpal. I used the paralyzer for a while, and it works good in elite, but not as deadly as the vorpal. I'll use that until I get a thunder forged at 24.
    So far I tested the dps in an EE fens. Saw I was doing 100 damage. Then with epic moment, zeal, I was doing much better, and getting crits of 800-1000. So dps is decent. I was seeing 10k mobs, so I needed a boost. 38%speed, 46 mp, on 2w. Not a lot. But got good threat and multi. I saw 15-20 when I was fighting, but in the display it gave me 16-20. So I don't know if that was some combat buff.
    Got killer instinct. Don't really remember to use it that much. Right now I got zeal and consecration with crusade. So stand and fight. But mostly ki is for boss fights, even tho it runs 2min. That's about the fight window. Holy sword is a 17, and full bab is like 2? So I cast favor and power at same time. But again, mostly for boss fights. Like fully charging up. Likewise only group buff I drop is mass deathward.
    Ya only spells I buff when I enter are holy sword, death pact and mass ward. And I use the killer bird, usually if I got one mob on me, and it's up, I'll assassinate. Otherwise if I'm wading in, I'll cleave and cleave the aoe bird. Get them back to back. I got the single tgt blind, but never use it. And the heal bird hasn't seen much use. It would be a good situational attack, but ive not found its use yet. Since I'm cleric I'll use either loh or a heal spell. But I'll keep seeing if it's useful. Maybe not for me. That would give me ap for the 10%. Maybe I'll test.
    But the ap split is tight. It's nice having +2 to all stats. I use it on at least 4. It makes up for no completionist on vish. 43 bird man. 15 stalwart, for the extra con point, so for death pact. That offsets it. Ya the stalwart d is nice, I was not expecting 750 hp. But that's a fair amount at 20. Not sure how much I'll end up with.maybe 1250? Or 1500? Ya prob not on vish. I think I had 1200 as an aa. No, I had 1400 with him before when he had stalwart d. So prob 1400. That'll be decent. Maybe 150 prr? I'll prob play more secondary fighter as I go thru epics. Because so far in fens it was problem of staying alive long enough to do some damage. So when you're healing you're not fighting, and that's the conundrum of the cleric. Won't die but can't kill anything. But with zeal I was tearing it up pretty good. So my single tgt dps is good.
    And I was running dps test mostly. And timing for consecration. Haven't tested implosion yet. It was EE, so tough measure for a 20. Ya about my twists. I only got 3 on vish. So I took cocoon, always good to have extra heal to cycle, and 10%sp. so I have 2k sp. and got a 3rd but don't know what to put in it. Maybe evocation3? That's a 2 twist. I'll get 1 more at 30, so I was thinking of twisting extra action boost and haste boost from ld, since I'll be running a prowess. Otherwise I can go ld and twist consecration. I'll play with it. Gonna stick to divine crusader for a bit first. It's got +5 wisdom. I don't think I have enough points for a tier4 twist. Maybe. For sense weakness. Guess I need to check my DCs. Oh ya, was gonna post bird DCs, I forgot, so I'll wait till 21, when I craft those assassinate gloves. Prob later today. Only need a dailys to get me to 21.
    Oh ya, ap. so 13 into radiant for +1 wis, and destroy and burst. Got empower heal and maximize on it. So it does pretty decent heals. It's like free group heals. I use this as extra heal for when we gather or paused, to let ppl know I do it. Then they tend to stick closer. Got 9 into aasimar. +2 wis and 7 regen loh. And hamp. It's good ap. if I had racial I'd take it to the 10% hp level. 15 or 17? Idk that'll never happen on vish. I've got 2 human lives, and this one asimar. So just the +1 wis. so 9 ap is best investment. Ya I'm surprised I got a hamp of 82. That'll go up at 21 with gloves and cloak. Mrr too. So it'll help in reaper if I'm running it. I'm not too strong, so I'll be happy with EE.
    So in general a squishy toon. That has to combat heal to stay alive. But it's a dance. Just got consecrate, and used it some, enough to know it can keep me alive while I fight. So just to get used to it. And zeal, for epic fighting. Can't do much about AC. Got better armors. He has heavies, since hes always been a cleric. So I got the best armors. And cc at 21. I got a chieftain, but I'm running the gs goggles at +6 for the 200 sp. ya running heroic gear in epics. Lol.
    Get bogw at 24. Another forc of cc. Will prob work better than soundburst, and go hand in hand with implosion. Since I been using that in heroics, and sometimes it just doesn't go off, and sometimes it's delayed. So it's a weird spell. Reliable but not always.
    But I can always play the healbot. Because I jumped into an orchard slayer. And couldn't handle the mobs, they were just killing me, I ran away, until I found the group. Then I just healbot and let them kill. Traditional cleric. Stand and watch. It's much different healing from combat. You really gotta know what's going on. Watching redbars, knowing kinda where ppl are. And keeping yourself alive, which is usually the hardest part. But the khopesh is tearing it up. So I'll continue being the fighting cleric.
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    Default Level 21 reaper stat and gear

    Level 21
    Repah
    Str 31
    Dex 23
    Con 43
    Int 22
    Wis 61
    Cha 40
    Hp 1001
    Hamp 140
    Sp 2142
    Pos 216
    AC 64
    Dodge 6/6
    Fort 47
    Reflex 33
    Will 57
    Bab 16/21
    Doublestrike 12
    Melee speed 38
    Melee power 43
    Sr 0
    Fort 136
    Prr 123
    Mrr 81

    Gear
    Helm cc wiz203 resist8
    Neck cc 10con4 devotion115 falselife30
    Eyes cc 10wis4
    Triket planar or cc sf3 or Vom
    Armor scales of the exiles
    Cloak mysterious
    Bracers cc sheltering25 fort115 str10 prot6
    Belt cc natarmor10 doublestike11 insdodge4 good luck
    Ring1 prowess
    Ring2 cc 10cha4 exccha1
    Boots rng speed8 ff
    Gloves cc ass5 hamp40 insdex4

    Notes
    Crafted the gloves. Put assassinate on them. However, when checking the dc, the displays on some bird attacks is not right. It shows correctly for strike the eyes. But for aoe and kill, it's missing the +3 from tree, and +5 from gloves. Don't know if it works right, it just doesn't display right. Will have to bug report it, and I think I saw a thread. Will check.
    At 22 get motu spider queen armor. Better AC. Don't think I have better til 28. Just hit 22 put this on. AC to 66. It has less mdb. But 20 vitality. So my hp went to 921. Pretty good for low epics.
    Ya the 21 gear. Carries me to 28 when I get some slavers. Then ravenloft at 29. Don't have the goggles. Built for it, but that was on Kil. He has raid loot.
    But juking it to 24. Then bogw, and thunder forged khopesh. I'll lose the vorpal. I'll look mule again now that I'm epic. But no gear changes. Ya the 21 cc is powerful loot. Bis really. But there's some new epic quests that have new loot, at lower epic. But I don't think I can better crafted at this point. I need a named khopesh. That I can prowess. Got 5 slots on my vish gem. So enough.
    I've got several bugs I'm running with. Divine power, the spell, doesn't cast for me. It does the animation, but no sp are taken, and no buff icon displays. It's like a ghost spell. I could of sworn it was working in lower heroics. Idk is it something to do with divine crusader? Duh I answered my own question. Core1 gives bab equal to character level. But in display it's reading 16/22. Shouldnt it be 22/22? Something wacky with bab? Because that affects prr on heavy armor. I will investigate best I can.
    The other bug is my turns. They seem to be regenerating. But I don't have that many points into radiant. I was running a da tonite, and I was bursting, I have 25 turns now. And I used a few, then eventually one came back. Because I was standing around. So I'll take that. Man I'm answering my own questions. That's divine crusader too. Endless turning. So see, that makes it a cornerstone of the melee build. Consecration and bursts. Because in that da, which I use for testing ground, I was bursting for little over 300. So about third hp. That's in normal thru elite. With 200 pos and max and empower, it's pretty juked up. So I get a lot of mileage out of it. Free heals. Group aoe.
    Ya I guess I gotta include hamp in there. At 140 that's pretty decent. So good self heals. Now I got 900 hp I gotta check my heal spells. Well anyway I should be able to get pos to 800. Had that before. But hands are way over the top, and they regen too. And I got 2000 sp for 50pt spells.
    I was thinking I'm going to be using Flightfoot. So maybe instead of blinding speed at 27 I take something else. And at 30 too, since I don't have completionist. Prob take arcane insight. And maybe embolden. Or I could fit in great cleave. Will ponder as I level. Because really I'm setting this up to be a caster cleric. Implosion and frog will be goto. Dps will be good but secondary. For like boss fight. Because I'm not slotting doublestrike. Lose 20% there. Oh well, you gotta compromise for DCs.
    I should give a breakdown on skills. Because I put some points into diplomacy, and some into jump. Plus balance, heal, and Umd. I had enough skill points to get everything I needed. But at least I'm scrolling teleport.
    Running a flame sphere. Since I never got the slavers one. But that's good because consecration goes off fire. Have like 200 fire.
    And I got oc at 21. Looked at it. It gives a +1 mult on 19-20. I thought it was a range add. Oh well, that explains the higher crits. Means I'm getting x5. Don't think I'll get better. Not running in ld.
    Oh ya, and other thing I missed was epic power. That provides for 30mp. And universal, tho I don't count that as much. And spell efficacy, so you don't need a Pansophic. Not using it anyways. So it'll add up at 30.
    Will try to run some reaper. Feel I may goto gh soon.
    One other story. Piked some r10 amber today. Got me to 22 and 14 reaper points. Good to know people
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    Just my opinion on falconry ...

    I didn't care for it much on the melee life I tried it with. The bird attacks just don't mesh well with any kind of melee rotation. I did however, like it a lot on my last life (20 cleric, morninglord AA). That worked very well to mix in implosions, G.Command, destruction, and slay living. It worked really well in conjunction with the t3 Soul Magic, t5 Moonbow, and Morninglord's t3 Fey Energy Tap. I found myself with a lot of extra spell points and seldom needed shrines, maybe cause the cc saved me from having to heal group members much.

    I only went t4 falconry, but the -50% fort bird debuff is really strong, loved it. The trip and blind were also quite useful on ranged attacks where you have more time with kiting than on melee where you need the effects NOW! It was a fun life with a lot of solid CC, healing, or offensive casting as needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xenon211 View Post
    Just my opinion on falconry ...

    I didn't care for it much on the melee life I tried it with. The bird attacks just don't mesh well with any kind of melee rotation. I did however, like it a lot on my last life (20 cleric, morninglord AA). That worked very well to mix in implosions, G.Command, destruction, and slay living. It worked really well in conjunction with the t3 Soul Magic, t5 Moonbow, and Morninglord's t3 Fey Energy Tap. I found myself with a lot of extra spell points and seldom needed shrines, maybe cause the cc saved me from having to heal group members much.

    I only went t4 falconry, but the -50% fort bird debuff is really strong, loved it. The trip and blind were also quite useful on ranged attacks where you have more time with kiting than on melee where you need the effects NOW! It was a fun life with a lot of solid CC, healing, or offensive casting as needed.
    Ya, I just got done running an aa build
    But that was before falconry
    It's what I've heard, that the melee attacks don't mesh,
    And that it's better suited to ranged
    Prob is I don't want to go back to bow
    I found that an excellent support role, as cc cleric
    Great on teams, a multiplier
    Could hang in high reaper
    But I always wanted vish to be a fighting cleric,
    So I'm doing the khopesh and orb
    Still be a caster, but have decent dps
    And the bird attacks don't really fit in
    Theyre delayed, and you need fast results
    I like the killer bird, I like the aoe
    But that's it, I don't use the others
    They are on too long cooldown
    Not intuitive
    But as a tier 4 for killer instinct on a wisdom build,
    Then the tree is a goldmine.
    Don't even need to turn the bird on.
    So like 23 pts for tier4 on a monk, or cleric fighter,
    Is pretty good.
    But to max it you gotta go caster cleric too
    That's why I only splashed 3 fighter on the bird man
    Still getting implosion.
    And I'm using it in epics, it works sometime
    But I'm out on the bird attacks
    I guess you hafta expect a delay when using a bird
    Makes sense
    Just don't play too easy
    That's my two cents
    So far,
    I may take out the heal bird, which I don't use
    And take the 10%. Ya I'll do that tonite
    So birds good for tier4

    In other notes
    Made it to 24
    Took bogw
    Need to grab my tf khopesh
    Also ran the platinum quest
    Rerolled and pulled a ml21 bastard sword
    So maybe I'll prowess it and use it.
    So far eh is easy, EE takes teamwork,
    And I haven't been running reaper
    Seeing a lot of first lifers at 20
    Maybe new people do play this game...
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    Default Level 26

    Level 26
    Took bogw and pswf
    Haven't been having too good o luck with implosion. Guess my DCs are lagging. But I won't have sf gear til 28 and 29, so a little ways away.
    So far goto has been swf with khopesh. However, I pulled a platinum bastard sword, and have been using that. Little more base damage, since its 1d10, and got the blunt damage on it. Slotted with hopeful gem, but it's only got 3 slots. I thought 5. Oh well, that means some basic farming to get it up to 5. Because I slotted 3 prowess, and got 2 more waiting. That will take some runs of ravenloft. But it's not best crit damage, seeing crits of 600-800 vs like 1000. But it's got a cool shimmer that glows across the screen. A very different lighting effect than I've ever seen before. It twinkles a purple color, and I kinda like it. Using it so far over the khopesh. It's doing me decent.
    Other than that, switched out the heal bird for the 10% damage bird. I dont see what good this really is. It's only a 10 sec buff. For 10%. Seems like it should be 20 or 30 sec. I may recommend that. At least it would be useful in a boss attack. Haven't used it much, will test further.
    Also, found out that core6 of bird man doesn't grant freedom of movement. Was caught in some friendly sleet storms, and I was slipping around. So I started a thread on that. That and DCs are not displaying properly. Don't know if they are applying properly. Hard to test that.
    Been running eh dailys and some other misc quests. Was doing an EE tethymar with under level toons, and we were dying badly. With a full group, of under level, we were just able to manage. But at first it was a couple of us, and in third times a charm, we're getting ass whipped by drow. I used bogw and implosion, but had no effect. Well that was a 33, and I was only 24. So kind of an extreme test.
    Now I got 27-30 to look forward too. Will have to craft some slavers, and I don't have the richtens goggles, nor a calamity. Got the runes for calamity almost. When I get vish to 30, I'll park him there for raids. So next few levels will be about getting gear set up.
    Ya eh is easy, EE needs teamwork, and I ran a Druids deep r1 yesterday, and that wasn't so bad with a full group. Now I'm 26, so I'll prob go for a reaper Gianthold. And whatever else I can get myself into. Only 15 reaper points, so dailys at cap will help that along.
    But I've got over 1000 base hp now at 26, so should see 1300 or more at 30. New gear will make some difference. Everything working out ok otherwise. I've been pretty impressed how tough a fighter he is for a low AC. Can take a lot of hits and has the heals to keep himself alive. In that tethymar run, was backing off and doing healbot a little more. Ppl were dying kinda badly. But I've years in the saddle as a cleric, and it's actually a lot less work than fighting. But safer for the group.
    Will post stories as I come across them.
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    Default Level 29

    Level 29
    Juked it to 29. Wasn't too hard getting here. Would have been better if that wgu didn't bug out. That would have been like 200k+. But xp seemed pretty easy to come by. I just floated the lfm panel, often app to higher level groups. Everybody welcomes a cleric. But I'm not too awesome yet.
    Took 29. Oh ya. I had hit 29 earlier in the day, and wanted to take dire charge. But it wasn't showing up. So I didn't know what the problem was for sure. But not all Vishs Ed filled out. Mostly in arcane, since he's never played one. But found out you need 3 martial. I had ld and gmof filled. But shadowdancer was short 4 pts. So I didn't know how much do that was. So I just changed destinies and ran some dailys. It filled out pretty fast I think. It was full before I got 100k on EE for slavers pt2. So anyway, I leveled to 29 and there was dire charge.?*
    So I haven't played it yet. And I haven't geared for ravenloft. I'm still using a mix of old slavers gear. I got the con necklace. That I can sorc. But I'll have to make 2 new pieces. I got a wisdom shackles and a charisma ring. And the symbol. Ya need to get a hood. I been leveling pretty fast so all I did was jigsaw when I got to 28. Oh and I put on the healer belt. That raised pos to 475. And put on legendary prowess. And am wearing scales of avarice. Good heavy armor. But I'll switch to exiles next. Still wearing goggles for the insightful wis. and the gloves don't get new til 30.
    I've got to switch out to 29 gear. Armor. Cloak. Belt. Orb. Boots. Then pull spinnerette off Kil. And craft two new slavers pieces. Hope I have the mats. Don't know where the cloak is or the orb. Have to check Kil, and the mule. Same with the belt. Lotta times I just put them in shared storage, but it's kinda over full. Need to buy more bank space. ?*And then there's calamity. Will have to raid for that. I can pay for the goggles I got enough baba runes. So this builds gonna take a bit to put together. I think I got the orb on Kil. And I'll have to go digging for everything else. Although I know I have the armor in bank. But it's not mythic.
    Ya mostly been running 28. Switched over to the thunder forged khopesh. Was seeing avg 200 damage? And crits back over 1000. Switched out the dstrike belt for the healer belt. It was getting my role more to be the healbot if necessary, so I went with higher pos. if you're not melee as much, you don't even notice it. But you do notice the 2500 hp heals. That's becomes more important as toons climb towards or over 2000 hp. One spell full heal. When I switched over to shadowdancer I had ddoor. That's coolest part of that Ed. But i was missing consecration. Somebody else had it in the slavers group, I think it was one of the warlocks. But I was finishing martial, and didn't bring it. Oh well, it was only EE, and they were chewing through everything.
    Oh ya. The 10% bird damage. Puts an arrow above the tgts head. Real cool graphic, so it advertises. At least I hope others can see it. But it's good for boss fights. That and crusade. So that's 20% stacking damage burst. Still needs to be more.
    But the best thing I like so far is death pact. I find that to be the most useful spell I have. So much so that it's a backbone of the build. Like having Phoenix on a Shintao. I'm very used to being able to Rez if I get killed. So that's 15 cleric. But I've already set the bar at 17.
    Not sure how I'm gonna do as a caster. Been casting implosion and frog to no effect. Oh sure if in eh and over level, them frog goes off. But not in anything that matters. I've got a 76 wis with what I've got which is 17/4 slavers and +4 from the goggles. So I'll pick up 2 more from the cloak, and 5 more from the armor. So at 83. Well this is vish, but I'm putting on max gear. Ans then I've got sf6, insght4 qual2 and artifact4. So after I get myself put together, I'll post DCs. I'm only hoping I have have good enough for LH raids. I'm slotting general DCs, and may take embolden if that works.
    And my hp should be over 1600. I'll take that. Celestia at 30. Because right now I'm at about 1400. In dc. In shadowdancer I was at 1300. So mileage may vary. But with capstone, I should be over 1500 anyhow.
    And then there's reslotting augments. Have to pull the globe and the festive wisdom off, as well as few others? Oh ya I slotted ff into the mysterious cloak, because when I went 28 with slavers, I had to give up the boots for the wis shackles, so I could keep my cc bracers which have all my defense on.
    Update
    Checked Kil this morning. No orb or cloak. But he had helm boots and gloves, for swap. And I'm gonna lend spinnerette. That means Kil will be out sfqual2. Oh well, may slot necro ring. But loses the sorc set. So really I need another spinnerette. Have to check mule for orb and cloak and belt.
    But I decided to do a baba and Strahd this morning. The baba went smooth enough, couple glitches, but we got thru it pretty well. Someone kited the mounds at the end and we just dps baba. No loot. Then a Strahd. I should have known better, no cleric. So it was kinda easy until the lever chamber. That took a long time. Then by then everybody was oom, and we went into Strahd. Killed him, ?*but didn't have good control of brides and one died just before we killed Strahd, and then they all respawned. I was the only one with mana left and the tank couldn't hold the aggro, and I was casting cocoon and Cmw mass all the time, and also rezzing ppl. It's really a mess when no one has mana. Told ya, I always play conservative. Well, I kept us up for another go at it, but it was too much struggle. The bear was kiting all over, ppl were dying, and we couldn't get our dps together. So then I got a bride on me and was getting chased and eventually I died. Then we kinda wiped. Tried a couple ppl with jibbers but we couldn't pull it off. Then leader wanted to do the ddoor trick, and someone Rez me and I grabbed some stones, but I couldn't cast ddor. Well, I remember from the release notes they changed this. But I had never even tried it before. So it's a cage match. Do or die, and we died. Kinda sad, it was only LH.
    So I dropped some stuff in bank. And I'm gonna check mule and then see what I can put on. I got reaper blanks for the slavers I need to craft. So I'll prob have Kil do that later today. I'm gonna revisit those pieces make sure it's what I need. But I know I'm good.
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    Ran a LH baba on vish.
    Different experience. Generally melee, but caster with implosion and frog. And this was the test. Tho I'm not even geared yet. Missing all the adds. Only thing I swapped out was cloak and armor. So I'm running a 83 wisdom. With like no sf adds. And I was able to do the scarecrows with both. I'm out on frogging the totems. I had a hurl lock with me and he was getting them. So I tried mut I failed against the totems. Unless they're isolated. I think I did get one that way. But the implosion was rocking the scarecrows, and mass frog got them too. Made it easy for puzzles.
    Otherwise for the baba fight I just sat out and healbot. Sometimes I went in and dps, but it was marginal I'm sure. We had couple good hitters in the group. Again, at end killed the mounds, then killed baba. I pulled the cloak of Strahd. Mrr. I kept it. I don't get much gear on vish. So maybe I might put it to use, and go with a wisdom helm. Thought about it anyway.
    We were short manning it much of the way. Tho the implosions rocked and the frog cometh. This on a 29 cleric with no significant gear. So it's easy even in LH raids. But I will be testing better, and of all things, I need to get flagged for Strahd. Had the opportunity, was in the group, but I need argonholt I think. I missed some in leveling up. So I may need to do the whole chain just to be sure. Ok that's easy enough.
    I looked on the mule. Had the cloak, but no orb. So I'm gonna hafta Farm pies. Otherwise I've yet to craft the slavers. And transfer the runes for the goggles. That will come tonite prob.
    And a mdb of 6. So this armor is nice but not that good for melee. Maybe 9 or 12 woulda been nice. Oh well.
    I'm running about 2600 sp. that is nice I can cast and heal and not worry too much. This should go up some with slavers wizardry, but I'm near max wis.
    I'm just stoked I can implode and frog in baba LH. That's the first door. Next is Strahd. Which I should be fine with consecrate, and bursts.
    Will likely be over kill when done, but the real test will be reaper.
    Guess I'll hafta pike my way to 50 pts
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    Finished it of with c1 from motu. Had it before battle, but I took 30 and Celestia and embolden. Then I ran it it was totally easy. I have close to 1700 hp. And I found out I made a big mistake. The enh devotion belt isn't adherents, it's beacon of magic. So I won't be sporting a 5 pc adherents on this build. Kinda sad. Oh well, too good to be true.
    Then I banked the helm and the necklace. And switched over to Kil. Kil is my crafter. He has all the bags of goodies. And a crafting skill of like 320?340? Ya so he had a couple reaper blanks. The shackles, and the ring for the trinket. So I crafted them up. Put sorc on them first, then made shackles with false life devotion sf and qual wis. made the trinket with just wiz so far. Gonna put qual prr on it, but didn't use the comps yet. So that made 4 pieces and the spinnerette. For the set. And I transferred the hut runes. And had vish get a pair of goggles. So I suited him up.
    Then I went to jewel kit a couple of augments. The globe and the festive wisdom. And I had 2 jewelers kits. Stacked. And I double clicked on them, and it froze the game up for me.
    I've had this almost happen before, when I use jewelers kits. Sometimes I get disconnect icon. But it seems a problem. Like it just lags out the system. Don't know why. I hope I didn't lose anything. That's plus three wisdom in 2 augments.
    Update
    Ok everything's good.
    I bought a festive wis off the auction house for 125. Slotted into the cloak. Still missing globe, but I didn't want to pay 250.
    Stats
    In dc, with pa
    Str 21
    Dex 43
    Con 58
    Int 24
    Wis 84
    Cha 34
    Hp 1696
    Hamp 95
    Sp 2768
    Pos 634
    AC 93
    Dodge 0/6
    Fort 70
    Reflex 57
    Will 88
    Bab 20/30
    Doublestrike 0
    Melee speed 45
    Melee power 85
    Sr 0
    Fort 224
    Prr 167
    Mrr 90

    Gear
    Helm executioners sorc
    Neck slavers 17/4con sorc
    Eyes van richtens adherent
    Trinket slavers wiz371 sorc
    Body exiles
    Cloak Silverthread festive wis adherent
    Bracers slavers falselife68 dev185 sf6 qwis4 sorc
    Belt Silverthread beacon
    Ring1 lprowess
    Ring2 spinnerette sorc
    Boots flightfoot cha7 adherent
    Gloves cc21 ass5 hamp40 insdex4
    Tf khopesh 4w 15-20 x4 +105 to hit +93 damage
    Off hand mist fallen orb adherent

    Death from above 77 fort
    Destruction 72 fort
    implosion
    Mass frog
    Coordinated strike 77 reflex
    Soundburst 67 fort
    Gcommand 70 will

    Notes
    So I got the slaver set, but one short of adherent. Could swap the gloves. Oh well, built as planned.
    It's short some things. Ghostly, dstrike. I have to swap planar still for reapers.
    But I ran it in a couple reaper wpm. I'm really missing the reaper points. Implosion and frog weren't working. But I was doing decent damage. Now all I got to do is flag for Strahd.
    Pretty happy with the end results. Good hp, good prr. Can do good melee dps. Can't cast yet in reaper, but I still have 2700 sp and can cast lotta heals. So I make an excellent cleric. The bursts re in place of an aura, and the hands and heals take care of everything else. That and consecration with crusade. And 10% damage bird. Makes for much quicker boss fights. So that's my secret sauce for this build.
    Also, have true resurrection. That and half Rez and raise dead. So that's three people off the ground. I got the mana for it. Only if my frogs and implosion started working would I see that go down more. But most those spells costs 50 mana.
    Well, there is the bird man. Three special attacks and killer instinct. A warpriest if ever there was one. A true hybrid cleric.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vish View Post
    A warpriest if ever there was one. A true hybrid cleric.
    To be blunt, 70 - 80 DCs are pointless. Unless by "hybrid cleric" you mean mediocre melee damage, no crowd control with zero casting ability.
    170 prr and 6 dodge melee is very squishy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wipey View Post
    To be blunt, 70 - 80 DCs are pointless. Unless by "hybrid cleric" you mean mediocre melee damage, no crowd control with zero casting ability.
    170 prr and 6 dodge melee is very squishy.
    Those stats are all relative to the gear and power of the character, and the content they run.

    Also vish you probably weren't able to frog the totems because you need to activate spell resistance on mass frog first by casting a SR normal spell on them first. /bugusplat
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    Ok now I got to tweak this build.
    Twists. Gotta revisit them. Got 4 slots on the gem, so no prowess set yet. Besides, no calamity yet.
    Added a prot8 to helm. AC to 101.
    Added a good luck2 to belt.
    Put ff on the gloves
    oh ya, can mythic the sorc set. Forgot about that.
    Need a globe, gonna put it on the armor.
    And thinking of crafting stunning20 on the trinket, for dire charge
    Saw dire charge at 98 with killer instinct. With stun would be 118.
    May drop cocoon, since I don't seem to cast it. Heals and hands.
    Update
    Twists 4 sense weakness, 1 cocoon, 1 pos, 1 10%sp
    Will use that until I get gem up to 5 slots, then will go prowess. Then 3 haste, 1 mp, 1 extra action boosts, 1 cocoon?

    About DCs
    Well vish is my minimum investment cleric. He's got 3 cleric lives and a couple epics. He's got bis gear. 84 is best wisdom I can work up. So he does fine in LH. That was the test, that he could implode and frog in baba. I didn't figure the DCs for those 2 spells, they don't have a tooltip. But on the bird attacks, it's not figuring in assassinate from tree or gear. So that's +8-10. And I can't really get my wisdom higher. I've got even stats now and only augment I'm missing is globe.
    This is best hybrid I can come up with. It does just fine r1. Remember, vish has only 15 reaper points. I was seeing implosion and frog going off some of the time. It's pretty hit or miss. Seems I need to cast the implosion out of combat and come charging in. Frog works sometimes too.
    See, this build has room to grow. It's not a maxxed out toon. And wisdom won't go any higher, and I've got sf in his gear, and even embolden. So it'll work for what I need. I planned it, I built it, and I'm generally pretty happy. He will always run in a group, so he's a force multiplier. I was running a slavers r1 and we had 3 clerics in the group. I didn't see them imploding or frogging. So they just in same boat as me.
    I don't decry the criticisms of the min max crowd. Attitude is like if you don't have max dc why even bother. But this is max dc for what it's worth. For what vish can afford. He will be able to reaper just fine. And I've got the room to grow him into a better caster as I learn the nuances of the spell.
    And his dps is pretty good. Ran into the mists, and got a barovian khopesh. That turned the damage up to about 250 a hit. With crits to 1500-1700. So he does great on clean up duty. And for bosses he has crusade and damage bird, so bosses go down fast. Plus he's a cleric with bursts and heals, a welcome addition to any group.
    It's not a max caster or a max dps. It's hybrid. I planned it, I built it, and now I'm going to live with it. For what he was designed for, LH raids, he will do spectacular.
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    Sqwak!
    The bird man cometh,
    And the bird man slayeth

    This is a surprising fun build, for a cleric
    I've run lotta clerics, and I'm completionist on Kil
    So I know how to melee prob better than any other style
    Also one that takes the most skill
    But this is pretty supreme fighter
    The consecrations always keep the group up
    So much so that I rarely have to burst
    I find myself turning more for the mp add
    But it's got killer instinct, and zeal
    And then it's got heal and hands
    And three Rezzes
    And the frog and implosion work in r1
    Even with arcane insight
    It's got 1700 hp, decent prr and 3000 sp
    3000 for a melee cleric is a lot
    But my secret weapons are frog and implosion
    And my secret sauce is billboard bird
    I mean it's not a duality monk
    And it's not a necro hurler
    But it is a cleric that can fight
    And brings 20% damage to bosses
    Plus keeps everybody alive
    Even the zombies
    So overall I'm impressed enough

    Loot finds
    Needed an orb. Ran pies. Pulled it myself. First run.
    Then I ran a slavers run. And pulled a spinnerette. Kil sorced it and he's back to full.
    Then I ran Kil and got handed a legendary whelm. That's for vish. I used the heroic and kinda like it. It's got a cool reverb attack
    Oh then I ran a r1 baba on Kil and pulled a +8 con tome. Whoo hoo. I haven't decided what to do with it. Now you can buy in stores, so not worth as much. I may give it to vish. I have couple +7s on Kil. I plan on buying him a supreme 8.
    So as usual I have good loot luck. Probably because I worship random
    But the build turned out better than I expected. It would have about 6-7 more wis on a max toon. So I'm doing fine for a first alt. and actually my moniker. And the guild leader. So he's got to represent.
    Ok next few days will be running ravenloft to flag for Strahd. I'm not seeing as many high reaper groups running, and actually I can prob only healbot above 3, I just don't have the reaper points on vish. But I'll get some runs in.
    And Kil is back to operational. That r1 baba we had a bear with 5000hp tank the two mounds at the end. First time I seen that. But she kept herself alive. I was watching her hp and she wasn't taking too much damage at all. Go bears. Then I ran a r3 curse, and I'm kinda outa the saddle on Kil, but my instakills were having a tough time on the abishai and orthons. Made me doubt the build a moment. With 94 cha and 96 fod, it's the best I got. I mean at heart I'm a monk, but this was my first real attempt at dc casting. And really it's a monster build. I got asked if I was a hurler before they let me in. Of course. That's all I have to offer in baba. Because otherwise its all blasting. In Strahd too. Dc instakillers dont do to good in raids. But it tears up the content. But monks are solid in anything. Ya I'm seeing 250 on vish, and I know duality does 600. Can't beat 17w. But vish rocks as a cleric. I'm happy.
    And about gem. Need some more non nom. I will report back on how it's better or not with a prowess set. My guess would be about 325-350. So decent enough.

    I'll also do a bit more write up on my recommendations. I should give a more detailed analysis of this new tree. Because I was watching strimtoms video on his eagle build, a 10/6/4 rogue fighter pally thf. And I have similar critiques to him. But this build was a warpriest build. With casting viability. So very different than his monster.
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    The wicked blade

    Enforcer med
    Fort215 prr54 healamp85 falselife85

    Neck family sigil
    Trusee AP33 deadly17 relentless fury

    Glove hammerfist
    INS DS11 seek21 Ideadly8 cannithinfusion

    Artifact bonus family +25mp +15DS

    Belt bronze dragon
    CON21 healamp85 Ifalselife40 lifesealed50

    Trinket blood of blossoms
    WIS21 IWIS10 shelter55 enhancedki3

    Goggles Attunement s gaze
    SF7 ISF4 eff embolden and heighten

    Bracers leg hallowed castigators
    Dev214 heallore31 ishelter27 eff empower healing

    Boots flightfoot
    Speed30 FOM natarmor19 reflex16

    Cloak mantle of fury
    CON19 DOUBLESTRIKE22 dodge19

    Helm umber brim
    Iacc16 idec8 profane imp quell strikes

    Ring1 leg prowess
    ACC28 deadly14 MP8

    Ring2 spinnerette
    Spellpen7 QSF2 Qpot32 spelllore15

    Orb mistfallen

    Wicked blade 7.5w 16-20 x3
    +131 to hit +113 damage
    Prowess: MP, crit, mrr, attack, dex, all rare.

    Boots, cloak, helm
    2 rings
    No artifact?! Need to run Sharns

    30.
    Been running vish raids. As an alt. I just don’t have the confidence on him as I do kil. Different roles. But I’ve been giving more time to vish, and he contributes, just not on a reaper level yet.
    So. I figure we got 3 months to horizon. So in that time I would like to do one epic tr, because vish has some screwed feats. I look at this 2 years later and wonder what I was thinking, but I think it was a leveling scheme. Now at 30 running raids, where I’m mostly spot heals but add sacred ground and 10% bird on melee. So I add some dips on bosses but mostly there to keep melee alive. The ole fighting cleric. But on his own he can’t melee too well. Running a ravenloft sword with no filigree. And the orb sucks.
    So. Need to regear. The idea is to go 15/5 ranger. So that I have the option to bow or to refeat and go tempest. So I’ll get the wicked blade, and now he does dips and stacks vulnerable, and maybe the sov vorpal will help the melee. And I’ll take my gem out the 20 weapon and put in 5 pc prowess. But I think I have to re twist to take some action boosts. To proc prowess. Since all I have is sprint from falconry.
    I can take gear from kil for silent avenger, I don’t have an extra necklace. And the vish has some decent raid gear. So it won’t be so much an elegant set, more of what he has to work with. But I had about 2500 runes. I took them off kil and put in shared bank. The counter went up as if it added them, but they didn’t display in the bank. Kinda freaked out. Quickly checked my open tabs and inventory, and I could see they wereNT on me. So I prayed and closed the bank. Waited a minute and reopened it. They were there. Thank god. If I just lost 2500 runes I would **** my pants I know they wouldnt replace them. And that’s just too much ****ing effort for a bugged UI.

    Bought the blade and blossom

    Con49 wis 85
    1600 hp with stalwart
    2600 spell pool
    450 pos
    AC 87 ouch
    Dodge 15/15
    Prr 195 mrr 121
    235 fort

    Blood blossom
    Festive wis2 globe of true blood

    Greaves
    Feather falling

    Armor prot10

    The gear is pretty subject to rearrangement. But I just ran a r1 quid pro quo. And in the giant part, I dps, and was moving the health bar pretty good. So I’m gonna continue to test. For raids and LH he should be good. In reaper I saw almost 1800 hp, so that’s good enough. I was gonna farm fey and prob Sharn for rxp and some gear. Feeling much better about his dps survivability.
    Ya because it was a total gear swap, but kept the rings. I want a fey prince orb, for the con, then I can go maybe at least 2 pc winter, and maybe 4. Really he needs epic lives as well. And I checked he has 2 human racial. So I was gonna x2 aasimar, for the wis adds, then eventually run the third for point. That’s long term.
    Maybe now he’ll get more regular play as I feel he can dps enough to do what he does in raids. Didn’t lose too much off the cleric side. Lost the quality wis and lesser displace, but all my stats about doubled. Went from 0 DOUBLESTRIKE to 48, and melee power is at 113. With prowess and mp boost that’s doubles. So burst dps. And 10 of each? I twisted in meld, mp boost from LD, And extra action boost from LD,and endless faith. I could slot a wiz261, but I’ve only got the one on kil, and they’re expensive. But 20 burst spots should be about once a melee or maybe 10 for a boss fight. Will test. I had 30 on the monk and he never used them all. 20 sounds more than good.
    Also, was looking thru Vish augment bag. He has a lot of lower stuff from years of play. But he had a meridian fragment. So I took that out and gave to kil.
    Also. With new armor I don’t like the jacket loot ever, so I glamored the old armor. Golden outfit with halcyonia. And 15 cloak for now, but I may swap out.
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    Switched to the heavy armor, part of the family. Didn’t know there was a set, but was running cogs and a mythic2 dropped for me. The issue is AC. UNDER 100. Decent prr means he can take a hit, but low AC means he gets hit all the time. So most of my combat waits until aggro is established. Go in lay down crusade and melee from the side.
    Been running vish r4-6. 20 reaper points. He def has r4 dps with the sword. But his defenses means he can hardly get into combat. This will do fine for quests with tanks, or raids with tanks. Since he is really dps melee cleric. With crusade and bird that gives 10% dps.and turn undead which boosts mp.
    Spell wise, he can still frog and implode r1 baba. And for newer raids he can heal and dps where needed. Rearrly rare to see melee cleric, laying down crusade and bursting.
    But I feel vish is in a really good space enough to carry my raiding while I epic tr kil.
    Oh ya his saves suck too and I find he gets knocked down a lot. They really need more items with balance and jump skills. Just for clerics. Heavy armor is rough yo.
    Also, bought a ruby of good and put it in the sword. Good dr needed for a lot of content.
    Also, swapped out belt for leg pouch healer. I was looking up insightful devotion. Not any new items. So this bumps vish s pos up to 550. No way to really higher unless I go potency items. So wondering the raid goggles with SF, maybe swap out the dusk lenses, that have potency adds. Maybe get vish pos up to 750. But that’s about the only investment into cleric I have.
    Pulled another winter boot. One issue on vish is slotting 30% speed. The healer belt has it so do the boots, so now I can swap out boots. But that looses natarmor and reflex, pretty need for this build. Ya just no good options. Plenty of gear, and none of it works together. It’s like they don’t have a picture of the puzzle and just started cutting out pieces for it.
    I could pull an omniscience and swap spinnerette.
    But it’s mostly that he has dps. Alway the prob of the cleric is he can stay alive through heals, but can’t kill anything. Seems the rage is caster cleric, but I’ve never tried that out.

    Leg pouch +92 +45 pos 27%lore +30%speed

    Now his prr up to 212 mrr 120. Ac is like 94.

    Ran raids. Shroud, vod, lob, ma, dnd. Good team so overall pretty easy. Learned some new tricks in ma as healer. Can only use lvl7 and higher on cleric. I’ll have to check kil and see if his heal works on that raid. Lvl6 but max. And dps is good, but I’m still dying in melee. He is too squishy ac wise. Pulled a tharnes bracers. And checked ac with them on. About 30 diff to about 130. So maybe. But lose the pos off the castigators. So maybe helm? I need to look another tetris. Anyways I’m enjoying these raids more. Also learned some new stuff on lob, these raids I never ran in the old days, and they recently released, so there’s some nice stuff in there.
    Hmm. Looked. Need a legendary alchemists crown. Devotion wizardry and quality wisdom. Now I know what I’m looking for. And an omniscience. Those will prob prop the ac up to 150 or more....swapping out the umber brim, lose insigtacc16 and profane. And I kinda like quelling strike on when I’m taking out casters. But I might see a better tetris. Lose the spinnerette for the omniscience. Pick up resistance. Help saves. The spinnerette I was using for dc, so it can be swap for spelling frog. I’ll see. This is loot dreaming atm.
    The other thing I’ve encountered is undead tanks.
    I guess that is the rage.
    Well, it kinda ****es me. Just as palemasters do. I realize it’s part of the game. But let’s not when there’s healers in the group.
    Yes, I carry and use harm. Because palemasters are pretty normal for the dc wizard. So I expect that once in a while. But I do not expect it for the tank. I didn’t really learn that till the end of dnd, when we were talking about some stuff. I had been healing using heal or hands worked, but my heals were real low, like 1k instead of like 5k. Felt stupid for not testing it, and not realizing it earlier, but I feel I’m getting to know my cleric better, getting to know what he can handle in raids, like I can pull orthon aggro, but now I know and will expect it.
    I still can’t fit even a 2pc winter, wold pick up 25prr. Because I was looking the orb sound.
    Ya so I have more tetris to look at.
    But as for dps. In more regular boss attack, like sulomades or the bosses in dnd, it’s a
    Easy to crusade and auto attack dps, and I was seeing crits to 10k. So that’s good enough for a melee cleric swf. And I got that 10% bird add. It only last 10 sec, but on giant boss dnd I def saw the bar move faster at the end. So it’s a good finish move. I feel raid for vish is just right. Quests don’t always get tanks, but I run good groups.
    Ya, there was part in MA, where I even switched out to US and put on a ring of flickering steel. And just did cleric heals. But totally unnecessary with group we had in LH. Maybe good advice r1, since there are always tougher tricks to figure on the time draw out.
    I can get DS OVER 100 easy, and I saw MP at 256. That was reaper boost and zeal I think. Or maybe a MP Boost with a prowess add. I still haven’t haven’t the real dps tests and dps cycles need to know my dps. It’s the issue of any taking damage and having to self heal instead of dps. I’m still doing that a lot. So I know I can push dps more yet. Still learning the chops and cycles. It’s a challenge being cleric and melee. But I’m having fun and he’s performing better than I expected.
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    Switch t1 extra boost, to t1 dance of flowers +1w
    Ran vish this morning lh dnd, fey chest. Nothing dropped tho?
    Ran raids in the eve. No pulls, but dnd dropped bottled rainstorm and the caster staff. Passed off the trinket and kept the staff. Definitely the best for caster divine. Maybe a 17/3 cleric monk?
    Also. Rearranged items, put on a 4 pc winter. The belt, bracers and boots. Swapped the helm to crown of summer. I lose the insight and quality devotion, and lost the run speed. But I put up hp from 1600 to 2200. And prr is upr to 236. Ac is also 107. But he runs terrible slow. Ran him this way in raids tonite. He kept up no prob due to haste’s in the group, and was never really out of step, just slow run. Still crazy fast attack. Also the sword up to 8.5w. But lost 100 pos and 30 speed. He definitely seemed he was tougher. Will test reaper.
    Also, lost wis from 84/5 to 82. But rearranged reaper and 85 in reaper, so about the same. DS is 49% and MP is 123 base.
    The weird feats were PA and cleave. There is a bird aoe cleave with blind too. I do use the cleave sometimes, but it’s a more spam of a button that doesn’t the seem to matter so much... so on a epic reroll I could swap those out. Maybe empower and precision. Or heighten? Enlarge? Eschew? He’s not really a dc caster, not really a spell damage caster...
    Still looking the insight command. Had kil run the dragons this morn r6 2 reroll s, nope.
    Ran some r3. Still dying a lot, still trying to melee and needing heals. Or needing to step back and heal others. Orb and sword is pretty naked. But all the martial and divine epics would really pump him up. I looked at running GMOF. Could be done.
    Looked his saga and first time rxp quests. Quite a few so I’ll try to cherry pick some r6 runs. I feel ok in r4, but really don’t like taking melee over r3.
    Also, looking to swap out the goggles? Those are SF11. But I’m not a dc caster except really for frog and implosion. And I try but those don’t work well usual in any higher reaper. But works r1. That was the Litmus. So I swapped out the new goggles, sleepwalker, it has accuracy, so I could swap out the prowess, or the spinnerette. And it has potency 150, which I thought adds to positive but it didn’t. Already had seeker but it add deception, so some sneak damage. But not worth it.
    I might play around with a spring winter set. Even tho I have a spring summer saved for bow. Hmm, 2 bags full of loot. The 3 pc 4 pc is what I’m running on monk tho. So it’s dps sets. Just I’m too low ac, and only 11 dodge. But I run slow, like a tank.
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    Mon morn lfm for fey. Pulled the gloryborne. Autumn set, but sacred and silver flame. May work it’s way into a cleric caster build. Would have traded even tho nothing in chest I needed, but no offers up.
    Raid nite. Rolled on the loris necklace and got it. Pulled the propolsion boots, which is just what he needs but just can’t wear, maybe good swap for the jump, but I have winter boots on, and nymphs boots on the ranger build. So I could have but I don’t like swaps. The only thing I swap are beholder optic, jeweled cloak, and vom.
    Raid nite thurs. another good and easy run. Pulled a dull dagger, but vish ain’t no cleric of vol. so I gave it to the klingons.

    Stat
    Str 29
    Dex 41
    Con 62
    Int 23
    Wis 83
    Cha 26
    Hp 2257
    Hamp 155
    Sp 2690
    Ac 113
    Dodge 11/11
    Fort 74
    Reflex 54
    Will 82
    Bab 20/30
    DOUBLESTRIKE 49
    Melee speed 30
    Melee power 123
    Fort 235
    Prr 236
    Mrr 119

    3 pc family
    Enforcer plate
    Sigil
    Hammer fist

    Van rich tens spectacles/ swap attunement s gaze
    Crown of fireflies
    Blood of blossom
    Mantle of fury

    4 pc winter
    Direbear belt
    Cold iron bracers
    Deep snow boots
    Heart of the prince

    Leg prowess
    Leg spinneret

    Wicked blade w 5 pc prowess

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    May tr vish while kil camps 30
    I was looking the wisdom items from keep, pulled 2 rings this life on kil, and have lot other 21 gear, but maybe not a wisdom melee set yet? And not sure what 15 Sharn set I would use, family I suppose. Haven’t thouroughly checked it out. Just know that vish could use the epic pl, and I was looking his favor, and he has a lot of quests to do. So so should be easy. He has no greater tome, or heroic tome. He has 3 cleric pl, and 2 human pl. and +6 tomes.
    Maybe I should check his sagas, and finish those r4, so he can rxp. He has 21 reaper points atm. Sharn, cogs, ravenloft and fey would get him to 21 and put on gear. And farm gear. Have to elite....

    Reroll 21 set
    3 pc family
    Body
    Necklace
    Gloves

    Ring1 blind devotion
    Ring2 prowess

    Helm silver sworn
    Blckfeather boots
    Belt of devotion need
    Orb of devotion need
    Serrated arrowhead
    Cloak and bracers? Maybe cc to fill, need con.
    And a platinum long sword? I can sentient and prowess cost 6 tools.

    On reroll, eschew and precision. Free up bag space. Add to attack.
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    Running raids, some rxp. Have fey and ravenloft done for saga, need back half Sharn and cogs. Then epic tr.
    Raids. Pulled a duality. There were 2 monks in the group, but if they didn’t already have it, then poo. First time I pulled it. I envisioned a 17/3 clonk once upon a time and now maybe I’ll think it more.
    Vish running some rxp. Reaper to 23.
    It’s funny I really enjoy playing vish now. Not awesome stats but his dps saves hims. And ppl are not knowing where the arrow comes from. Sqwak! The Bird Man!
    Raid nite. Pulled a changestone DEX ACC DEADLY IACC. decided to keep it. Could now run a ring of taer valestas, add a collective sight, and swap trinket. Also, looking a swap insightful commands for spinnerette, dps vs caster swap items. Basically two, with spectacles. Also thinking future, HW. Sounds like DEX tree with trance, so it may be a dex wis con build for cleric ranger. Also have room to swap out prowess, losing mp but making room for omniscience. Adding wis ring adds a artifact to this current build.
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