Update 39 Preview 2: White Plume Mountain and Other Tales

[FlimsyFirewood]

I hope its not in the lava. There was one time during the disappearing lava platforms of the Warden fight that I somehow fell under the lava and through a wall into some "extra" space. I was momentarily afraid everything was going pear shaped but after a second or two I was back in the right space. It happened way too fast and I was way too busy to take a /loc.

Putting a chest chock full of mouth-watering loot into liquid hot magma? That would be cruel and unusual and utterly despicable and thank you for the idea.

Mmm, magma.

[Aelonwy]

Putting a chest chock full of mouth-watering loot into liquid hot magma? That would be cruel and unusual and utterly despicable and thank you for the idea.

Mmm, magma.

I called it! A tad sadistic! Evil DM... I'm watching you. ;p

[Niminae]

There's a second named loot chest in the prison, in a very secret location that does not require any skill checks. If you don't group with griefers, 2 chests per 13 minutes is reasonable. If you do, 1 named loot chest per run is acceptable.

That seems fair. Griefers tend to be self limiting as they will run out of marks to run with. And how many people will deny themselves a named chest just to deny 5 others the same? I guess some, but again it seems like a self-limiting behavior.



EDIT: That said, limiting ways in which it is possible to grief others is a good design goal. Having 5 people shat upon by someone with the will to be a jerk regardless of the costs to themselves is never good game design.

[FlimsyFirewood]

Can we get a few "notes of lore" tucked away inside the floating prison?

Already got you covered. Chat with people, especially Dorris, Sakhaa and Talbron.

[Aelonwy]

Already got you covered. Chat with people, especially Dorris, Sakhaa and Talbron.

I know I at least chatted with Dorris and Talbron. Dorris was not incredibly forthcoming, quite reluctant actually. Helped to build the place but then had regrets. That sure isn't much. If I recall correctly her dialogue in the quest suffered from one of those issues where if I wanted to ask her a different question I had to back away from her and restart the conversation. Talbron gave some information but wouldn't even tell me more about how he ended up there except a jocular statement about trusting, presumably Jeets and not fitting, I assume an escape route requiring a measuring tape in the future.

Was Sakhaa the kobold? I don't see how I could trust anything he(?) had to say. Crazy kobolds.

No no, I meant lore notes like something the captors leave about which give us tidbits of information from their point of view. Like the notes in the quest Strike Back that give you clues to what the different baddies were doing.

[PsychoBlonde]

That seems fair. Griefers tend to be self limiting as they will run out of marks to run with. And how many people will deny themselves a named chest just to deny 5 others the same? I guess some, but again it seems like a self-limiting behavior.

It's worth a big chunk of xp, almost 1/3 as much as the ENTIRE QUEST. Anyone who has the stuff from the quest already (and there are TONS of people who have ALL the items the first week) will be motivated to throw away that chest to get the xp, especially since it spares you a potentially obnoxious fight.

[Niminae]

It's worth a big chunk of xp, almost 1/3 as much as the ENTIRE QUEST. Anyone who has the stuff from the quest already (and there are TONS of people who have ALL the items the first week) will be motivated to throw away that chest to get the xp, especially since it spares you a potentially obnoxious fight.

Oh lovely. So the griefing is dev inspired and built into the quest. Who had this great idea?

[SSG_RedPanda]

What if someone wants to buy this pack several times just for the sentient XP stones?

You can only purchase the bonus items once.

[ThomasHunter]

Might be a good way to support alts. Even if you can't do it this time around having a stone of sentiment XP for each of my characters would be valuable for me! Just a thought!

[Cantor]

Might be a good way to support alts. Even if you can't do it this time around having a stone of sentiment XP for each of my characters would be valuable for me! Just a thought!

too exploitable as sentient gems are BTA.

[Grace_ana]

Anyone have an idea of how many points the bundle is going to cost on live?

[GramercyRiff]

Anyone have an idea of how many points the bundle is going to cost on live?

Harper costs 495. Bird Man will cost around that much, but probably more.

No clue what cosmetics cost. I looked at them awhile back and decided to buy mirrors instead.

Not sure how much sentient xp should be worth.

So no, I don't have a very good idea. If you look up or know the cost of cosmetics then maybe you can form a better idea.

[GeoffWatson]

Harper costs 495. Bird Man will cost around that much, but probably more.

No clue what cosmetics cost. I looked at them awhile back and decided to buy mirrors instead.

Not sure how much sentient xp should be worth.

So no, I don't have a very good idea. If you look up or know the cost of cosmetics then maybe you can form a better idea.

Cosmetics cost 495 to 995 each.
Pets cost 195 to 495 each.
Harper 495

So 1680 to 2980 not counting the Sentient XP.

I'd like the Falconer tree.
I'm not interested in the cosmetics.
Sentient XP is easy to get so I don't see the point in buying it.