U39 Preview 1: Crystal Cove Loot Revamp

[Evean]

Will the new weapons be sentient-ready?

[Iriale]

Ornamental Dagger Dagger
Minimum Level:4/8/12/16/20/24/28
Damage Dice: [1d4]/[1d4]/1.5[1d4]/1.5[1d4]/2[1d4]/3[1d4]/5[1d4+2]
Critical Profile: 19-20/x2

• Concentration +6/+10/+14/+16/+17/+18/+22
• Potency +29/+41/+52/+63/+73/+84/+132
• Spell Lore +3%/+4%/+6%/+7%/+8%/+10%/+15%
• Efficient Metamagic - Maximize I/+I/I/II/II/II/II
• Red Augment Slot

Better efficient metamagic in epic, pls. Orange slot in epics, pls

Treasure Hunter's Spyglass Trinket Slot
Minimum Level:4/8/12/16/20/24/28

• Detect Secret Doors Clicky/Detect Secret Doors Clicky/Detect Secret Doors Clicky/True Seeing/True Seeing/True Seeing/True Seeing
• Search +6/+10/+14/+16/+17/+18/+22
• Spot +6/+10/+14/+16/+17/+18/+22
• Use Magic Device +1/+1/+2/+3/+3/+4/+7
• Green Augment Slot

Now the spyglass give a +20 bonus at level 20. Why +17? Where is the insightful int bonus, and the open lock at 24? This is a nerf!

[Qhualor]

I think I sold all of my CC stuff some time ago when they became very outdated. not sure if I will participate in the event to get this new stuff, but it mostly depends on how active players are in wanting to group. if its just as bad as the last few years than I definitely wont bother.

[Saekee]

if you added old school deception/improved deception to the cuttroat smalblade, it would make a sweet offhand weapon for ninjas. As is, please just make it a dagger. Then folks will grind for it for vistani stealth builds

[Annex]

The two items I use from Crystal Cove are the Spyglass and the Cutthroat's Smallblade. As a solo player, all my characters use the Spyglass as a swap item. All of my characters use the Cutthroat's Smallblade as a stealth stick.

I was very much looking forward to this Update and I understand the need to standardize things, but this has become yet another "Corrupt-a-Wish". After four years I finally made my first Master's Gift just two weeks ago. For the first time ever, I can now permanently slot a Spyglass from Level 20. I was very eager to run Crystal Cove and get new and improved versions of the Spyglass for all my characters. Now I discover they will actually get worse. *le sigh*

Again, I understand the need to standardize and based upon past experience, I have zero hope of these items changing before they go live. Therefore, please, please leave the old upgrade paths in place or at least give us one last chance to run Crystal Cove and earn the old style items.

Thank you.

[Lalangamena]

all i see is nerfs and more nerfs,

cavalry plate nerfed: level 20 version AC reduced from 27 to 26. false life nerfed from 40 to 36
ring of the buccaneer nerfed: the good luck bonus removed completely.

and the bigest nerf of them all is the Treasure Hunter's Spyglass: level 20 search nerfed from 20 to 17, spot nerfed from 20 to 17.
and the insightful int removed completely.

[Evean]

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[btolson]

Seems to have all been said at this point: all the good stuff is gone.

If nothing else, examine the damage dice of high level Swashbuckler. 2d4+0 is not reasonable.

[gwonbush]

all i see is nerfs and more nerfs,

cavalry plate nerfed: level 20 version AC reduced from 27 to 26. false life nerfed from 40 to 36
ring of the buccaneer nerfed: the good luck bonus removed completely.

and the bigest nerf of them all is the Treasure Hunter's Spyglass: level 20 search nerfed from 20 to 17, spot nerfed from 20 to 17.
and the insightful int removed completely.

While Spyglass got nerfed, Calvary still got a buff assuming you can still wear it. Sure the AC is slightly lower and the hp is slightly less, but being Heavy Armor instead of the Medium that it got reduced to means it gives more PRR than before. You also get 10 more DR and 90 more temp hit points when demonic shield procs. 10+ PRR, 10 more DR and Demonic Shield -> Improved Demonic Shield is worth significantly more than 1-2 AC and 4 HP.

The ring is a toss up whether its a nerf or a buff. The lack of good luck sucks (though it only goes to +2 which can be blue slotted), but the Dex and Protection are both higher.

[simo0208]

Meh. Very disappointed that there isn't a worthwhile dagger for Vistani. The shortsword got the love. Boy would it be nice to get a dagger with those attributes...

Other than that, I don't mind the changes, there just isn't enough for "everyone" in the event. Good stuff for swashbuckler builds. It's downhill from there.

[Robbenklopper]

It's not so nice to shift the cavalry-plate from Medium to heavy armor. More a Bad idea. There are enough strong Lvl28 heavy armors already ingame, and the cavalry was always a smart choice for my barbarian to wear. Please leave it a Medium armor.

About the brawling gloves: will the Piercing REALLY work? Coz atm it's bugged ....

[Saekee]

can the OP be modified with new changes proposed?


Ring of Buccaneer is a swim swap item at best. So do:
Str not Dex
instead of protection, something that helps saves vs traps like Quality reflex/trap saves. Then it could even be a trapper swap item if trap box is ON the Other Side.

[Robbenklopper]

Now that you devs are doing a loot revamp, did you took into consideration to add a "Set"? A buccaneer themed maybe? Maybe a 2 or 3 pieces Set with some bonus to round up missing effects. You could even go further and create also a 2 or 3 pieces filigree set. Just thinking, coz although you say it's a loot revamp, it's something new ...

[Baylen76]

Yeesh, it's a "spyglass". They're used for spotting stuff. The lack of spot just makes it weird.

Frankly, this item should be grandfathered from the 4-effects-max shenanigans and be given a straight upgrade from its current L24 Tier 3 version. Anything less will just disappoint everyone who got their hopes up when an update to Crystal Cove loot was announced. Effectively downgrading it will not be popular. Effects like search on it aren't really harmful to the balance anyway.

[auntjobiska]

Yeesh, it's a "spyglass". They're used for spotting stuff. The lack of spot just makes it weird.

Frankly, this item should be grandfathered from the 4-effects-max shenanigans and be given a straight upgrade from its current L24 Tier 3 version. Anything less will just disappoint everyone who got their hopes up when an update to Crystal Cove loot was announced. Effectively downgrading it will not be popular. Effects like search on it aren't really harmful to the balance anyway.

With you there...

Sadness

AJ

[Plantman81]

Better efficient metamagic in epic, pls. Orange slot in epics, pls


Now the spyglass give a +20 bonus at level 20. Why +17? Where is the insightful int bonus, and the open lock at 24? This is a nerf!

I totally agree. An orange slot allows doe use of the DC augs. The current red spell power augs are about worthless. ML 28 aug gives +138, only 7 more than ML 28 potency on this dagger.

Missing the open lock at ML 24+ Spyglass is a huge nerf. The no Ins Int is not as big of a deal with the availability of Ins stats starting at lvl 10 now, but still a nerf.

[Yvonnel-1]

no fancy feeding item like the goggles from Party Event?

was hoping for a reason to spend my over the years collected green shards… sad

[Kindoki]

How do I upgrade the old spyglass to the new one on live? I tried to drop it into the item box, thinking it would give me options, but it won't accept it. Do I just need to buy the new one and keep the old one? I don't even remember where I was in the upgrade process for my old spyglass... it says upgradeable tier 3, which I think was the top option, but it's been a while. Pretty sure I built it during the very first CC.

I also don't see the old upgrade box 'hidden away in the recesses of the tavern', to even check...

[unbongwah]

How do I upgrade the old spyglass to the new one on live?

Talk to Euphonia; the last option in her dialog box open the trade-in window.

I also don't see the old upgrade box 'hidden away in the recesses of the tavern', to even check...

It's in the back corner hidden behind some barrels.

[Kindoki]

Talk to Euphonia; the last option in her dialog box open the trade-in window.

It's in the back corner hidden behind some barrels.

Thanks for the quick response!