Increase Bank & Backpack Storage Tabs from 20 Slots to 25 Slots

[Dulcimerist]

Would it be possible to please increase each character bank and backpack tabs to hold 25 items, rather than the current 20?

The game has changed over the years to where a bit more storage would be helpful. I've met a couple of brand new players who have been frustrated with clogged inventories and having to waste time selling after every quest, or even deleting things in the middle of quests. They're not yet sold enough on the game to purchase more inventory, but their inventory issues are enough to make the game less fun enough that they're leaning towards not sticking with DDO.

Increasing each character bank and backpack tab to 25 items would relieve some of that, and would continue to help when the Coin Lord and House K favor tabs are added - while adding extra incentive to reach those favor rewards. Even better, the 25-item tabs would add more value to the DDO Store character bank and backpack upgrades, increasing sales of those and prompting more people to purchase and spend DDO Points!

[blerkington]

Sounds good to me.

Thanks.

[Annex]

Why stop at 25? Crank those puppies up to 100!

[PsychoBlonde]

Okay, just out of curiosity, which do you think is an easier thing to do:

Dismantle a box in order to add material and turn it into a BIGGER box

or

Get another box.

So, why are you asking for the FIRST of these two alternatives SPECIFICALLY?

Oh, wait . . . because if they add more slots to EXISTING storage, you don't need to BUY the additional storage, you just get more for free.

Righto.

[Dulcimerist]

If they made them bigger, f2p players would only get 20 more inventory spaces on each new toon. (Which might be enough to prevent new players from getting frustrated and quitting from early inventory clogs.) VIPs would get a whopping 70 new inventory spaces on each new toon. That would give more incentive to be VIP. Would that be giving way too much free stuff to VIPs? Would having the extra space to juggle their TR caches around before their next TR not be all that helpful? Do we not want to encourage more people to become VIPs?

I'm not currently VIP, so I wouldn't benefit that much. It would prompt me to buy the extra backback slots on the majority of my 10 toons, so I would actually be paying quite a bit of real money for more space. Option one would lead to option two for me - I wouldn't personally purchase the backpack tabs at their current size. (I did already purchase the maximum character bank tabs on all of my characters, since those are of more value to me than the backpack tabs. There's not even an option for me to purchase any more of those.)

The game simply needs more storage. I started playing DDO in 2010, and have recently returned in 2018. There seems to be a lot more "stuff" to collect, hoard, and upgrade than there was eight years ago. Am I completely wrong on that observation?

[Arianrhod]

If they made them bigger, f2p players would only get 20 more inventory spaces on each new toon. (Which might be enough to prevent new players from getting frustrated and quitting from early inventory clogs.) VIPs would get a whopping 70 new inventory spaces on each new toon. That would give more incentive to be VIP. Would that be giving way too much free stuff to VIPs? Would having the extra space to juggle their TR caches around before their next TR not be all that helpful? Do we not want to encourage more people to become VIPs?

I'm not currently VIP, so I wouldn't benefit that much. It would prompt me to buy the extra backback slots on the majority of my 10 toons, so I would actually be paying quite a bit of real money for more space. Option one would lead to option two for me - I wouldn't personally purchase the backpack tabs at their current size. (I did already purchase the maximum character bank tabs on all of my characters, since those are of more value to me than the backpack tabs. There's not even an option for me to purchase any more of those.)

The game simply needs more storage. I started playing DDO in 2010, and have recently returned in 2018. There seems to be a lot more "stuff" to collect, hoard, and upgrade than there was eight years ago. Am I completely wrong on that observation?

Wait - since when do VIPs get extra pack space? I just finished my 2 months of VIP from buying Ravenloft, and as far as I could tell, all my characters had the exact same amount of pack space during that time as they had before.


Oh, and also, I agree it's time to raise the amount of space new characters get. It's exactly the same now as it was when the game first came out, and, especially for players who have purchased several expansions and get all the goodies that come with them on every new character at creation, this space fills up much faster than it did 12 years ago.

[Dulcimerist]

Wait - since when do VIPs get extra pack space? I just finished my 2 months of VIP from buying Ravenloft, and as far as I could tell, all my characters had the exact same amount of pack space during that time as they had before.


Oh, and also, I agree it's time to raise the amount of space new characters get. It's exactly the same now as it was when the game first came out, and, especially for players who have purchased several expansions and get all the goodies that come with them on every new character at creation, this space fills up much faster than it did 12 years ago.

Don't VIPs get all of the character bank and backpack tabs that f2p players would normally have to purchase from the DDO Store? I assumed that VIPs had everything unlocked while they remained VIP. A f2p player gets one bank tab and three backpack tabs when they create a new character. Do VIPs not get three bank tabs and six backpack tabs when they create a new character? (If VIPs do receive that, correcting my math, adding five spaces to each slot as proposed would only give VIPs 45 extra inventory spaces on each new VIP character. It would still be only 20 for f2p.)

I hear you on the expansions! I purchased the MotU pre-release and later added Shadowfell - both at the highest tier with all of the goodies. When I create a new character, I've already filled an entire inventory tab before I even begin questing. In order to manage my inventory better, I've chosen not to purchase Ravenloft. If you have too much stuff, don't buy more stuff! That strategy is working well for me, but part of me would really like to purchase it.

Anyway, I've seen quite a few threads about inventory issues, suggesting cool things such as a cosmetic item storage locker and a pouch to carry spellcasting materials. Adding five extra storage spaces to each storage tab seems like a small tweak which could help to offset the many changes that the game has undergone over the past twelve years. From my unique perspective of playing in 2010-2012 and then abruptly jumping back into the game six years later and instantly experiencing the sum total of the game's changes during those six years, I can tell you that inventory hasn't quite kept up with those changes and additions. Are five extra slots per tab really going to make it so that players no longer need to purchase more inventory tabs? In today's DDO environment??? Ha!

[Fedora1]

Don't VIPs get all of the character bank and backpack tabs that f2p players would normally have to purchase from the DDO Store? I assumed that VIPs had everything unlocked while they remained VIP.

Nope, we get the same amount of storage as F2P with the exception of the first shared storage bank (20 slots). We have to buy everything else.

[Arianrhod]

Don't VIPs get all of the character bank and backpack tabs that f2p players would normally have to purchase from the DDO Store? I assumed that VIPs had everything unlocked while they remained VIP. A f2p player gets one bank tab and three backpack tabs when they create a new character. Do VIPs not get three bank tabs and six backpack tabs when they create a new character? (If VIPs do receive that, correcting my math, adding five spaces to each slot as proposed would only give VIPs 45 extra inventory spaces on each new VIP character. It would still be only 20 for f2p.)

Pretty sure the only "extra" space VIPs get that f2p/premium have to buy separately is the basic shared bank (& shared plat vault). All the rest they buy too (or do without). For an altoholic who isn't going to buy every bank & pack tab on every character, but has all the goodies from all the expansions, that's just really not enough space

[Igognito]

Hi all,

as a new player, it is true I very fast filled my inventory space and got frustrated...
But I would go against in increasing each page by 5.

I would like to see some inventory improvements though.
Currently, I have the +1 tab from the coin lords and +1 tab from a portable hole I traded recently!

Suggestions:

Potion Bag (fits 12 stacks of ?? potions)
Components and tools Bag (fits 12 components, tools thieves, healing, repair)
Wand Bag (fits 6 wands)

If any of the above bags exist please point me out where to go get them.

I currently have:
2 quivers
1 tiny ingredients bag (this sees to be enough, I accidentally bought the small one but never needed it)
1 tiny gem bag (planning to go buy the next size as it often gets full)
1 tiny collectibles bag and 1 small collectibles bag (both are full currently but it appears I haven't found a new type of collectible for some time now)

I have seen other small items that go occupy 1 slot in my inventory and I get annoyed. In general I think the game needs to have more bags for the small items.

Cheers

[Dulcimerist]

Nope, we get the same amount of storage as F2P with the exception of the first shared storage bank (20 slots). We have to buy everything else.

Really? That's something I'd really like to see changed. Although I prefer to stay Premium status and purchase everything in the game instead of going VIP, I would like to see our VIPs have access to all (or at least some) of the purchasable storage while they remain VIP. That's such a quality-of-life improvement in the game, especially when TR'ing and working with the TR cache, that it would be a huge incentive for people to become VIP.

as a new player, it is true I very fast filled my inventory space and got frustrated...
But I would go against in increasing each page by 5.

I would like to see some inventory improvements though.
Currently, I have the +1 tab from the coin lords and +1 tab from a portable hole I traded recently!

Suggestions:

Potion Bag (fits 12 stacks of ?? potions)
Components and tools Bag (fits 12 components, tools thieves, healing, repair)
Wand Bag (fits 6 wands)

If any of the above bags exist please point me out where to go get them.

I currently have:
2 quivers
1 tiny ingredients bag (this sees to be enough, I accidentally bought the small one but never needed it)
1 tiny gem bag (planning to go buy the next size as it often gets full)
1 tiny collectibles bag and 1 small collectibles bag (both are full currently but it appears I haven't found a new type of collectible for some time now)

I have seen other small items that go occupy 1 slot in my inventory and I get annoyed. In general I think the game needs to have more bags for the small items.

Cheers

Welcome to the game, and congratulations on finding a Portable Hole! Be sure to check out some House Kundarak quests to unlock a character bank slot or two!

For tools, people generally don't use the healer/repair kits anymore. Players generally max their UMD skill to use wands and scrolls or have hirelings. Long ago, thieves tools only stacked 50 in each inventory slot, but were changed to now stack 1000 of them into a single inventory slot. That was a huge help for tool storage. A spell components bag would be a major help, though - as long as the game could access those items while they're in the bag.

Potion and wand bags would be really nice to store spare potions and wands when you don't immediately need them. However, if players need quick access to any potion or wand while questing, they put them into a hotbar to click on. Having them inside of a bag would likely prevent that ability. I'd personally like a wand bag, since I might want to carry a few wands of Blur, Shield, and Protection from Elements; and I'd only need one of each in inventory. A bag would keep the spare wands organized.

Great job on finding the quivers and bags! Those tend to be difficult for new players to find. When you start crafting, doing Shroud raids, participating in certain festival events, or hit level 20 and start looting epic crafting ingredients; you'll appreciate the larger ingredients bag. Once you start doing a lot of the quests outside of the Harbor and Marketplace or do certain other festival events, you'll be overflowing both of your collectibles bags on a regular basis. If you do Cannith Crafting, you'll need to hang onto those collectibles. (Players will buy and trade those collectibles from you at a much better price than NPCs would pay you, if you ever need to get rid of some to make space.)

Solving some of the inventory issues with additional types of specialized bags would be nice, and would keep all of each type of item neatly organized; but I'm unsure of how difficult it would be to implement since it might create some really weird gameplay bugs. It would probably be easier to increase the size of each storage tab by five, or perhaps add another bank tab accessible through House K favor. At the very least, VIPs should have automatic access to additional storage, since they're paying SSG's bills each month.

[Igognito]

Really? That's something I'd really like to see changed. Although I prefer to stay Premium status and purchase everything in the game instead of going VIP, I would like to see our VIPs have access to all (or at least some) of the purchasable storage while they remain VIP. That's such a quality-of-life improvement in the game, especially when TR'ing and working with the TR cache, that it would be a huge incentive for people to become VIP.



Welcome to the game, and congratulations on finding a Portable Hole! Be sure to check out some House Kundarak quests to unlock a character bank slot or two!

For tools, people generally don't use the healer/repair kits anymore. Players generally max their UMD skill to use wands and scrolls or have hirelings. Long ago, thieves tools only stacked 50 in each inventory slot, but were changed to now stack 1000 of them into a single inventory slot. That was a huge help for tool storage. A spell components bag would be a major help, though - as long as the game could access those items while they're in the bag.

Potion and wand bags would be really nice to store spare potions and wands when you don't immediately need them. However, if players need quick access to any potion or wand while questing, they put them into a hotbar to click on. Having them inside of a bag would likely prevent that ability. I'd personally like a wand bag, since I might want to carry a few wands of Blur, Shield, and Protection from Elements; and I'd only need one of each in inventory. A bag would keep the spare wands organized.

Great job on finding the quivers and bags! Those tend to be difficult for new players to find. When you start crafting, doing Shroud raids, participating in certain festival events, or hit level 20 and start looting epic crafting ingredients; you'll appreciate the larger ingredients bag. Once you start doing a lot of the quests outside of the Harbor and Marketplace or do certain other festival events, you'll be overflowing both of your collectibles bags on a regular basis. If you do Cannith Crafting, you'll need to hang onto those collectibles. (Players will buy and trade those collectibles from you at a much better price than NPCs would pay you, if you ever need to get rid of some to make space.)

Solving some of the inventory issues with additional types of specialized bags would be nice, and would keep all of each type of item neatly organized; but I'm unsure of how difficult it would be to implement since it might create some really weird gameplay bugs. It would probably be easier to increase the size of each storage tab by five, or perhaps add another bank tab accessible through House K favor. At the very least, VIPs should have automatic access to additional storage, since they're paying SSG's bills each month.

Thank you,

yes, indeed finding the quivers was not easy to find :-D
finding the ingredient bag was easy because of the crafting quest. After that I realized that there must be bigger collectibles bag so I asked at the general chat :-D. I also have found that there is a bigger gem bag. But as I sell all the gems immediately or destroy them I think it doesn't worth the money yet.

About new bags and game mechanics. I guess the simplest solution is that items in the bags cant enter in the hotkey bar. Even if not optimal, it would still be a great inventory improvement. The spell component bag would be more of a challenge though. But yes it would defiantly be a great game improvement.

I'm a proud crafter! I have reached close to lvl 40 my crafting and I have also made me 2 useful items. (A water action helmet ;-) and an amulet of search and poison ward) which by accident I sold and didnt realize :-/ I will need to remake :-D good excuse to increase my crafting :-D by making a better one this time.

About the portable hole, I managed to trade for one :-) very thankful for that. I wonder if I can increase my inventory multiple times with portable holes. Or if it is a 1 time increase...

Cheers

[Fedora1]

About the portable hole, I managed to trade for one :-) very thankful for that. I wonder if I can increase my inventory multiple times with portable holes. Or if it is a 1 time increase...

Cheers

Nope, only a one time inventory slot with a portable hole. However, if you do purchase (from the store) additional inventory slots you get them right away and keep them through reincarnations. So after a TR you begin at L1 with any additional inventory slots you purchased. The only ones you lose are the ones earned from favor rewards (the freebie and the portable hole one). You need to get those with Coin Lord favor again.

(All favor is reset when you reincarnate).

[Impaqt]

Your concern for the newbs is touching.

Perhaps the new players should just learn to manage their inventory like everyone else? it doesnt matter whenther you have 60 or 600 inventory slots. We always want more. Learning to manage whats needed and what is fluff is critical in this game.

[Igognito]

Nope, only a one time inventory slot with a portable hole. However, if you do purchase (from the store) additional inventory slots you get them right away and keep them through reincarnations. So after a TR you begin at L1 with any additional inventory slots you purchased. The only ones you lose are the ones earned from favor rewards (the freebie and the portable hole one). You need to get those with Coin Lord favor again.

(All favor is reset when you reincarnate).

Ty for the info :-)

[Hafeal]

1 tiny ingredients bag (this sees to be enough, I accidentally bought the small one but never needed it)
1 tiny gem bag (planning to go buy the next size as it often gets full)
1 tiny collectibles bag and 1 small collectibles bag (both are full currently but it appears I haven't found a new type of collectible for some time now)

Just n fyi, you can buy Medium size bags (gem, collectbale and ingredient) for plat at the Erstwhile Emporeum in House P (8k, I believe). I think someone has on the wiki House J sells them in shop too but I don't remember ever seeing them there.

Here is the Wiki link:
http://ddowiki.com/page/Bags

[Tresorion]

I have been thinking of ways to improve inventory issues as well and I think having bags in the DDO store that could hold one complete set of armor/weapons/trinkets etc. would be an excellent idea. Make them so they can be named whatever you like so that they can be easily differentiated. This would be beneficial for TRs because each few levels, people generally make all new weapon/armor sets. By naming the bag, you could look in your TR cache and pull exactly what you need for the level range you are in. This would not only address storage issues for anyone (not just TRs), it would consolidate each set for future use. I feel as if this would sell like hotcakes if implemented.....Thoughts?

[Yamani]

They have tried to sell more bank spaces, the community was against it because it changes systems. The current system has a limitation on how many tabs/slots it has while the new system would have added indefinite space but removed tabs. The problem being so many use the bank to sort their gear which wouldn't be possible/easy with pagination(iirc thats what it was called)

[Fedora1]

They have tried to sell more bank spaces, the community was against it because it changes systems. The current system has a limitation on how many tabs/slots it has while the new system would have added indefinite space but removed tabs. The problem being so many use the bank to sort their gear which wouldn't be possible/easy with pagination(iirc thats what it was called)

I have never heard of this discussion, where was it? When? And why are those the only two options?

[Phoenicis]

They have tried to sell more bank spaces, the community was against it because it changes systems. The current system has a limitation on how many tabs/slots it has while the new system would have added indefinite space but removed tabs. The problem being so many use the bank to sort their gear which wouldn't be possible/easy with pagination(iirc thats what it was called)

I have never heard of this discussion, where was it? When? And why are those the only two options?

If memory serves one-two years ago they proposed doing away with the current inventory/bank system and going to the shared bank system. With search feature but no sorting at all.

The forums melted down.

They backed off.

Oft suggested since then has been 'use the auction house system'