Lock/Arti Shurikens?

[flute136]

Hey guys, i am looking to do lock and arty life with a shuriken build if possible.I know there is ones for arti for scrolled tensors and what not but i havent actually seen any for warlock(light dmg/hit) anywhere. Can somebody link me to a forums post to one that is for u36 where they removed imbues to shurikens or make me a rough draft or something, i havent played in a while.

[Tilomere]

Hey guys, i am looking to do lock and arty life with a shuriken build if possible.I know there is ones for arti for scrolled tensors and what not but i havent actually seen any for warlock(light dmg/hit) anywhere. Can somebody link me to a forums post to one that is for u36 where they removed imbues to shurikens or make me a rough draft or something, i havent played in a while.

Ok, I'm going to give you a rough guide of how to play a shuriken build post update 36. It's really simple. It's the same as every other build in the game. Step 1: AoE stun everything. Step 2: helpless damage them to death.

To switch from casting to throwing and back again you need quick draw, which is a thrower feat anyways. To cast you need wisdom, which is also a thrower stat. Your build then looks like:

Max wisdom, high dex, levels in wisdom:

1 Monk Shuriken Expertise Point Blank Shot
2 Monk Precision
3 Monk Rapid Shot
4 FvS
5 FvS
6 FvS Quicken
7 FvS (Soundburst Spell)
8 Monk
9 Monk Precise Shot
10 Monk 10k Stars (Quick Draw from HeM enhancements)
11 Arti or Warlock
12-14 Arti or Warlock Master of Forms (for water ki regen)
15 Monk (for BaB 11) Improved Precise Shot
16-20 Arti or Warlock IC:T
Reincarnate at 20.

AP in NiS extra shurikens and dex to hit/dmg. After that, AP in shintao for PRR and warsoul for divine will. Third, AP in HeM for quick draw/ki regen. Last sneak die and helpless damage and ninja poison with more NiS. Then whatever. Don't worry if your DCs and spell pen aren't no-fail Just attack the mob that is stunned and kill it with bonus damage while kiting others.

[Maelodic]

Ok, I'm going to give you a rough guide of how to play a shuriken build post update 36. It's really simple. It's the same as every other build in the game. Step 1: AoE stun everything. Step 2: helpless damage them to death.

To switch from casting to throwing and back again you need quick draw, which is a thrower feat anyways. To cast you need wisdom, which is also a thrower stat. Your build then looks like:

Max wisdom, high dex, levels in wisdom:

1 Monk Shuriken Expertise Point Blank Shot
2 Monk Precision
3 Monk Rapid Shot
4 FvS
5 FvS
6 FvS Quicken
7 FvS (Soundburst Spell)
8 Monk
9 Monk Precise Shot
10 Monk 10k Stars (Quick Draw from HeM enhancements)
11 Arti or Warlock
12-14 Arti or Warlock Master of Forms (for water ki regen)
15 Monk (for BaB 11) Improved Precise Shot
16-20 Arti or Warlock IC:T
Reincarnate at 20.

AP in NiS extra shurikens and dex to hit/dmg. After that, AP in shintao for PRR and warsoul for divine will. Third, AP in HeM for quick draw/ki regen. Last sneak die and helpless damage and ninja poison with more NiS. Then whatever. Don't worry if your DCs and spell pen aren't no-fail Just attack the mob that is stunned and kill it with bonus damage while kiting others.

Can shuris actually be used at low levels without it being remarkably painful as far as damage goes?

[Tilomere]

Can shuris actually be used at low levels without it being remarkably painful as far as damage goes?

It depends on how well you layer crit/multiplier/ranged power/helpless/helpless damage.This isn't Electric Gibzilla, but it's as close as I could come up with.

[Sam-u-r-eye]

Hey guys, i am looking to do lock and arty life with a shuriken build if possible.I know there is ones for arti for scrolled tensors and what not but i havent actually seen any for warlock(light dmg/hit) anywhere. Can somebody link me to a forums post to one that is for u36 where they removed imbues to shurikens or make me a rough draft or something, i havent played in a while.

To Echo the above.... ... Shurikens are brutally painful in heroics. Imo slap repeater proficiency in an iconic with ips then take the feat out @ 20.

[flute136]

Ok, I'm going to give you a rough guide of how to play a shuriken build post update 36. It's really simple. It's the same as every other build in the game. Step 1: AoE stun everything. Step 2: helpless damage them to death.

To switch from casting to throwing and back again you need quick draw, which is a thrower feat anyways. To cast you need wisdom, which is also a thrower stat. Your build then looks like:

Max wisdom, high dex, levels in wisdom:

1 Monk Shuriken Expertise Point Blank Shot
2 Monk Precision
3 Monk Rapid Shot
4 FvS
5 FvS
6 FvS Quicken
7 FvS (Soundburst Spell)
8 Monk
9 Monk Precise Shot
10 Monk 10k Stars (Quick Draw from HeM enhancements)
11 Arti or Warlock
12-14 Arti or Warlock Master of Forms (for water ki regen)
15 Monk (for BaB 11) Improved Precise Shot
16-20 Arti or Warlock IC:T
Reincarnate at 20.

AP in NiS extra shurikens and dex to hit/dmg. After that, AP in shintao for PRR and warsoul for divine will. Third, AP in HeM for quick draw/ki regen. Last sneak die and helpless damage and ninja poison with more NiS. Then whatever. Don't worry if your DCs and spell pen aren't no-fail Just attack the mob that is stunned and kill it with bonus damage while kiting others.

Thanks for the reply, interesting concept.so 10 warlock 6monk 4 fvs? Im not sure about fvs but i found a forum with a 17lock3monk build is that doable too do you think?

[flute136]

I am aware ranged sucks early on, i usually will run ninja spy with dex to dmg wraps early on, but if i am going warlock early i can just use blasts earlygame

[flute136]

Ok, I'm going to give you a rough guide of how to play a shuriken build post update 36. It's really simple. It's the same as every other build in the game. Step 1: AoE stun everything. Step 2: helpless damage them to death.

To switch from casting to throwing and back again you need quick draw, which is a thrower feat anyways. To cast you need wisdom, which is also a thrower stat. Your build then looks like:

Max wisdom, high dex, levels in wisdom:

1 Monk Shuriken Expertise Point Blank Shot
2 Monk Precision
3 Monk Rapid Shot
4 FvS
5 FvS
6 FvS Quicken
7 FvS (Soundburst Spell)
8 Monk
9 Monk Precise Shot
10 Monk 10k Stars (Quick Draw from HeM enhancements)
11 Arti or Warlock
12-14 Arti or Warlock Master of Forms (for water ki regen)
15 Monk (for BaB 11) Improved Precise Shot
16-20 Arti or Warlock IC:T
Reincarnate at 20.

AP in NiS extra shurikens and dex to hit/dmg. After that, AP in shintao for PRR and warsoul for divine will. Third, AP in HeM for quick draw/ki regen. Last sneak die and helpless damage and ninja poison with more NiS. Then whatever. Don't worry if your DCs and spell pen aren't no-fail Just attack the mob that is stunned and kill it with bonus damage while kiting others.

Does divine will work on ranged? It says melee hits.

[flute136]

So it is not advised to put ap in warlock trees for light dmg on hit and auras? Thats what i really thought of when i thought of a warlock thrower

[Tilomere]

So it is not advised to put ap in warlock trees for light dmg on hit and auras? Thats what i really thought of when i thought of a warlock thrower

Melee generally means "in combat." Heh, except when it doesn't. But ya it should work fine.

The 3d4 light damage is 7.5 damage, scaling with 200 spell power is 21 damage/hit. It's not really meaningful. 10 Fighter would be better.

Fighter would also give more feats, which you could use for ranged feats, so you could take evo/spell pen feats with normal feats.

Then grab a Snowstar.

Eventually swap to Kensai T5, NiS T4, with ki regen from kensai + water stance instead of HeM.

Then you would have everything line up for you. Crit range + multiplier + ranged power + helpless + helpless damage +kensai raw damage + NiS sneak damage + fort bypass

Defenses would line up as well with Stalwart Defensive stance + Shintao Iron Skin + AoE stun

Healing would be weak, but as ranged with chain AoE stun wouldn't need much.

I'll let you figure that build out!

[flute136]

Melee generally means "in combat." Heh, except when it doesn't. But ya it should work fine.

The 3d4 light damage is 7.5 damage, scaling with 200 spell power is 21 damage/hit. It's not really meaningful. 10 Fighter would be better.

Fighter would also give more feats, which you could use for ranged feats, so you could take evo/spell pen feats with normal feats.

Then grab a Snowstar.

Eventually swap to Kensai T5, NiS T4, with ki regen from kensai + water stance instead of HeM.

Then you would have everything line up for you. Crit range + multiplier + ranged power + helpless + helpless damage +kensai raw damage + NiS sneak damage + fort bypass

Defenses would line up as well with Stalwart Defensive stance + Shintao Iron Skin + AoE stun

Healing would be weak, but as ranged with chain AoE stun wouldn't need much.

I'll let you figure that build out!

I am after a warlock pl. I might just do a pure blasting to 12 then switch to aura. But i think a 4 warlock split in a thrower would be interesting just for spiritual retribution light dmg

[Theolin]

Don't forget to get shadow star as well it pretty beastly damage for what it is.

[Alled78]

Hey guys, i am looking to do lock and arty life with a shuriken build if possible.I know there is ones for arti for scrolled tensors and what not but i havent actually seen any for warlock(light dmg/hit) anywhere. Can somebody link me to a forums post to one that is for u36 where they removed imbues to shurikens or make me a rough draft or something, i havent played in a while.

I think u are mad playing your arty and warlock life as shuri
I advertise you:bad idea. Even melee is far better. Shuri is a pain even with optimized build in heroic...

[Alled78]

I think u are mad playing your arty and warlock life as shuri
I advertise you:bad idea. Even melee is far better. Shuri is a pain even with optimized build in heroic...

I did warlock 6 monk8 cleric 6 thrower: untile lvl 29 was so squisy due to low dps that i needed months to reach 30 ( it is my alt for "experiments")

[flute136]

I did warlock 6 monk8 cleric 6 thrower: untile lvl 29 was so squisy due to low dps that i needed months to reach 30 ( it is my alt for "experiments")

Well if you know my main, Snipedyou on khyber you will know that i have done ranged every life so far, i want to try to get completionist this way, to represent my name. I do not engsge shurikens at low levels, the speed to too slow. But once u get up the dps racks in. 8ftr6monk6ranger life was very strong in heroics with shurikens.

Anyways i think i might try the 17lock3mnk using blasting until i feel comfortable to switch to aura with shuriken and offhand crafted with spellpower. My only question is if i go that way, what pact am i restricted to for being lawful good because im not sure about that.

[Kentpb]

Well if you know my main, Snipedyou on khyber you will know that i have done ranged every life so far, i want to try to get completionist this way, to represent my name. I do not engsge shurikens at low levels, the speed to too slow. But once u get up the dps racks in. 8ftr6monk6ranger life was very strong in heroics with shurikens.

Anyways i think i might try the 17lock3mnk using blasting until i feel comfortable to switch to aura with shuriken and offhand crafted with spellpower. My only question is if i go that way, what pact am i restricted to for being lawful good because im not sure about that.

Fiend or Fay. Fiend just can't be good and Fay can be any monks just need to be lawful so lawful Neutral could be Fiend or Fay and a monk