Quote Originally Posted by Tilomere View Post
Mmmm.

I was going for 17 D/ 2 bard /1 cleric, with ~90 charisma, ~70 strength base, LD, build Tilo's Stealthy Druidic Annihilator

Divine might will be +40 strength.
Bardic rage will be +4
Rams might will be +2
primal scream will be +5
animal growth will be +4

~125 strength when everything is said and done > 57 modifier

70 + tactics will break 100. They don't want you to AoE permastun by layering this on top of Dire Charge both at 120 DC. Builds like mine built with 4 different AoE stuns are why they won't allow all 4 stuns to be at the 120 DC level.

As a self-healing hybrid class, DCs aree never going to be fully workable. Always marginal. Fighter needs the DCs because their self healing is far more limited.
You got a screenshot of that 125 strength?