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    Default Check my Math on Int

    I think I have it but someone double check.

    INT BREAKDOWN
    Base: 20
    Level Ups: 7
    Tome: 7
    Completionist: 2
    Racial Completionist: 2
    Racial PL: 2
    Magister: 6
    Archmage: 4
    Deep Gnome: 2
    Harper 3
    Echoes of the Ancestor Twist: 1
    Twist of Fate - Shadowdancer: 1
    Equipment Bonus: 20
    Insightful Bonus: 9
    Reaper: 2
    Sentient: 4
    Exceptional Bonus: 1
    Quality Bonus: 4
    Profane Bonus: 2
    Festival Bonus: 2
    Artifact Bonus: 2
    Yugo Potions: 2
    Remnant Turn-in Potions: 2
    Ship Buffs: 2

    Sustain 108

    **Reaper Enh +5

    Reaper Sustain 113
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    A few comments & nitpicks:

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    Tome: 7
    +8s apparently exist.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vorachtin View Post
    Harper 3
    You didn't break down how you're spending all your AP, but even with 41 in Archmage, going from getting 3 in Harper with 22 AP up to getting 4 with 24 AP should be doable, right? And then maybe 1 more Int for 12 AP from your choice of PM or EK. Since you're including Racial Completionist, you have plenty of Racial AP to pick up the +2 Int there without impacting your 80 regular AP.

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    Echoes of the Ancestor Twist: 1
    Twist of Fate - Shadowdancer: 1
    Depending on your priorities, you could potentially be twisting more.

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    Sentient: 4
    Could be up to +7, depending what else you choose to slot. 4 can make a lot of sense, but it's not the max or the only reasonable option.

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    Exceptional Bonus: 1
    +2 Exceptional exists. You can't slot everything in at once, though: Sentinet in main hand hand is a must, but you can get the same total with either +20 Int Orb or with a +19 Int item and the +2 Exceptional in the offhand.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vorachtin View Post
    **Reaper Enh +5

    Reaper Sustain 113
    You can get +1 Int in Reaper at tiers 1, 2,3, and 5 of the caster tree.

    You can get +1 Int all the time (not just in Reaper) from the 3rd core of the caster tree.

    So that should be an extra +1 in the top section, and only +4 more in Reaper.
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    Thanks.
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    If you absolutely want to maximize your int, you can also do this configuration instead of investing in Harper:

    Archmage 41 points (just enough to get the capstone--don't take any Tier 5 abilities, tho)
    Pale master 33 points spent, this is JUST enough to get you to Shroud of the Archlich and Improved Shrouding, which in lich form and the 2 you get from the tiers in PM will net you +3 total over Harper
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    I ended up taking an epic int feat and getting to 110/114(reaper). It's not the max possible, but I am happy with that for now.

    Appreciate the input.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorachtin View Post
    I ended up taking an epic int feat and getting to 110/114(reaper). It's not the max possible, but I am happy with that for now.

    Appreciate the input.
    made some tweaks, can now sustain 120 int in reaper. Still not cap, but at a point im satisfied with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vorachtin View Post
    made some tweaks, can now sustain 120 int in reaper. Still not cap, but at a point im satisfied with.

    Just food for thought...

    Missed colorless augment slot for +2 Festive bonus to intelligence.

    And as far as gear you get +1 artifact bonus from 5 pc slave lords set (and +4 artifact bonus to spell DCS)

    And as someone else already stated you can currently end up with +7 (or +8 with the new upgraded beholder filigree) with filigrees maxed in a sentient jewel.

    Technically you can twist +5 and take +3 feats for another +8. But likely giving up more than gaining.

    So all this considered your max theoretical cap for intelligence is 136. Realistic cap although would be 128.

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    It is possible to hit 131 sustainable in Reaper now-a-days with recent equipment.

    I am running 120 INT on my wizzy (124 reaper), with my lowest DC at 104, highest at 114 (reaper adds 6 to those DC's). I could get my highest DC (necro) a wee bit higher at the cost of 5 or so illusion DC (112), but I wanted to have illusion DC close to my necro DC and because PK is a double save spell.

    Going higher INT actually costs DC's. (IE: I could swap embolden for +1 int, but at the cost of 2 DC's, or get +6 more INT via filigrees, but would cost me +4 DC's from the 2 sets I have on it, each giving +2 DC as a 4 piece set, for a net loss of 1 DC, +1 int in the Harper enhancement tree at the cost of lots of good stuff, etc). Maxing INT at 127 (131 in reaper) would lower my DC's by 2, so I opted to max DC's instead of INT.

    can hit 136 INT (140 in Reaper) via Bard+D pot+cookies, but I do not consider these reliable.

    As far as I can figure, 140 in reaper is the current MAX possible INT on a wizzy.


    INT BREAKDOWN in Lich Form

    Base: 20
    Level Ups: 7
    Tome: 8
    Completionist: 2
    Racial Completionist: 2
    Racial PL: 2
    Enhancements: 15 (42 points in Pale Master, 24 points in Harper, 13 points in Archmage, 12 points in Deep Gnome, in Lich form)
    Destinies: 11 (6 in Magister, 5 twists)
    Equipment Bonus: 20
    Insightful Bonus: 9
    Quality Bonus: 4
    Filigrees: 9
    Exceptional Bonus: 1
    Reaper Tree: 1
    Profane Bonus: 2
    Festival Bonus: 2
    Artifact Bonus: 2
    Yugo Potions: 2
    Remnant Turn-in Potions: 2
    Ship Buffs: 2
    Epic Feats 4

    Sustain 127

    In Reaper quests +4

    Reaper Sustain 131

    Bard 2
    House D pot 3
    Abashai Cookies 4

    140 MAX possible

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