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    Heya guys,

    I just TR my swashbuckler Bard, and wanna test another build. But this life I need something different, need clear! Single target hit well, but soooooo slowly when needed to clear mobs fast. Soo, I'm looking for a THF build with cleave( if possible) and trapper.

    I'm think about this one:

    15 bard/2 fighter/2 rogue:

    Stats 36pt
    Strength. . . . ...16
    Dexterity..........15
    Constitution......14
    Intelligence.......12
    Wisdom............08
    Charisma..........15

    Feats

    Lvl 1. . . . . . . . : Power Attack
    Lvl 2..... Fighter: Cleave
    Lvl 3. . . . : THF
    Lvl 6. . . . : Great Cleave
    Lvl 9. . . . : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Lvl 12. . . . : FoP
    12 Fighter: Improved Critical: Slashing
    Lvl 15. . . . : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Lvl 18. . . . : Quicken Spell (?)

    Questions:

    1 - Does it works for Heroic quest?
    2 - I saw tons of builds using INT base, build I'll need Insightful Reflexes. But is it possible to do with mob clear? And I rlly wanna play Drow now.
    3 - No idea what enhancements should I take. Probably Warchanter.

    PS:
    1 - I mostly play alone, soo need a self suficient/trapper build.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marinzek View Post
    Heya guys,

    I just TR my swashbuckler Bard, and wanna test another build. But this life I need something different, need clear! Single target hit well, but soooooo slowly when needed to clear mobs fast. Soo, I'm looking for a THF build with cleave( if possible) and trapper.

    I'm think about this one:

    15 bard/2 fighter/2 rogue:

    Stats 36pt
    Strength. . . . ...16
    Dexterity..........15
    Constitution......14
    Intelligence.......12
    Wisdom............08
    Charisma..........15

    Feats

    Lvl 1. . . . . . . . : Power Attack
    Lvl 2..... Fighter: Cleave
    Lvl 3. . . . : THF
    Lvl 6. . . . : Great Cleave
    Lvl 9. . . . : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
    Lvl 12. . . . : FoP
    12 Fighter: Improved Critical: Slashing
    Lvl 15. . . . : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
    Lvl 18. . . . : Quicken Spell (?)

    Questions:

    1 - Does it works for Heroic quest?
    2 - I saw tons of builds using INT base, build I'll need Insightful Reflexes. But is it possible to do with mob clear? And I rlly wanna play Drow now.
    3 - No idea what enhancements should I take. Probably Warchanter.

    PS:
    1 - I mostly play alone, soo need a self suficient/trapper build.
    1. That should work in heroics fine, yes. There's a couple changes I'd suggest for epic play though, I'll write below
    2. Int is nice because you can use Harper for an Int-based Divine Might. Boosts your damage, and also your DC's for what it's worth. If you can afford the AP, it usually does more damage. THF works fine with Int as long as you have enough base Str to get all the THF feats (17 eventually)
    3. For THF, Warchanter is your best bet. Swash is great, but not really for THF. Some stuff into Spellsinger could be beneficial too, like Sustaining Song

    For epics, I'd up the fighter to 6, take T5 Kensei, and the 3rd core from Kensei. This is because most physical attackers get a +1 to their crit multiplier and range somewhere, but Warchanter only gives a +1 on a 19-20. With Kensei, you can get +1 range and a +1 multiplier regardless of what the roll was, so long as it's a crit
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    Gosh, now I'm rlly confused!! No idea what to do kkkkkkk

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    Warchanter DPS on its own is bad. WC+Swashbuckler SWF DPS is a good combo, particularly if you're going CHA-based PDK w/short swords for WC freeze attacks; see the Icebreaker. If you really want THF, Kensei / Warchanter combo is also viable; see my Axesinger thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    Warchanter DPS on its own is bad. WC+Swashbuckler SWF DPS is a good combo, particularly if you're going CHA-based PDK w/short swords for WC freeze attacks; see the Icebreaker. If you really want THF, Kensei / Warchanter combo is also viable; see my Axesinger thread.
    Yea man, I saw that. It's amazing. I change a bit, what do u think?

    Drow True Neutral
    12/6/2

    Level Order:
    1 - Rogue
    2-7 Fighter
    8+ Bard

    Stats 32 points (1 fighter/pally and 2 humans TRs)
    -All lvls in INT-
    Strength 15 +3Tome
    Dexterity 10 +3Tome
    Constitution 14 +5Tome
    Intelligence 18 +3Tome
    Wisdom 08 +2Tome
    Charisma 14 +4Tome

    Feats
    01 - Power Attack
    02 Fighter - Cleave
    03 - Insightful Reflex
    03 Fighter - TWF
    05 Fighter - Great Cleave
    06 Weapon Focus - Slashing Weapons
    07 Fighter - Weapon Specialization - Slashing Weapons
    09 - Improved TWF
    12 - Improved Critical - Slashing Weapons
    15 - Greater TWF
    18 - Quicken Spell or Empower Healing Spells


    Enhancements (80 AP)

    Kensei ( 34 points)
    - Kensei Focus: Heavy Blades, Spiritual Bond, Strike with No Thought
    T1 - Extra Action Boost III, Weapon Group Specialization, Haste Boost III
    T2 - Weapon Group Specialization
    T3 - Weapon Group Specialization, STR and Critical Mastery(need it to open higher T4/5)
    T4 - Liquid Courage, Strike at the Heart, STR and Opportunity Attack. (can't get weapon group spec. since this build has only 6 fighter lvls).
    T5 - A Good Death: Melee, Weapon Master, One with the Blade, Keen Edge

    Warchanter ( 25 points)
    - Skaldic: Constitution, Weapon Training, Song of Heroism, Fighting Spirit
    T1 - Enchant Weapon, Rough and Ready III
    T2 - Words of Encouragement III and Arcane Shield Chant III
    T3 - Ironskin Chant III
    T4 - Reckless Chant III, Armorer
    Note - since I don't care about Sprint Boost I'll 3 ranks of anything(status or passives).

    Harper Agent ( 01 point)
    - Agent of Good
    T1 - Strategic Combat 1

    Swashbuckler ( 07 points)
    - Confidence
    T1 - On Your Toes III, Tavern Shanties I
    T2 - Fast Movement

    Stalwart Defender (13 AP)
    - Toughness, Stalwart Defense
    T1 - Item Defense I or Stalward Defensive Mastery I and Durable Defense III
    T2 - Resilient Defense III, Instinctive Defense I
    T3 - Tenacious Defense III

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