Theory: The Moonlighting TreeTank

[Pilgrim1]

This is a theory build to combine the deffensive aspects of tanking with the offensive aspects of Tree forms. It is in no way compleate and there are lots of diffrent ways of doing tree-stile attacks. I would very much like to see good alternitives.

The ideal is to be a viable tank for LE raids and reaper questing, or with a shift of a destiny, be viable as a tree during normal quests or lower difficulties. Mad props to being a tree while tanking!

8 warlock/6 pally/6 monk
Con build

I like the idea of running two weapons instead of shield and board because an off hand weapon allows us to use a Legendary greensteel off hand for procks to ride along with the warlock aura. Getting 1000 hp, blind, frozen, slowed or vulnerable mobs seams like a better use than having a shield in the off hand.

8 warlock ~22 AP:
Warlock gets displacment spell and relitivly low expensive aura (4 second tick). Enlighted spirit also gives nice sinergy with tanking and con build even at a 4 second aura tick.

6 pally ~38 AP:
Pally gives amazing saves, LOH which are reaper frendly healing, heal amp, defensive stances, and with t5 knight of the chalice 3 cleave lines. Has anyone tested how Holy retribution and the other pally cleaves works in tree form?

6 monk ~12 AP:
Monk gives evasion, 3 feats, and MP, heal amp, shadow fade. Im honistly unsure if I should build this un-armored or armored. Also AP gets very tight.

VKF ~ 11 AP:
Vistani knife fighter has some low hanging double strike and deffesces which is great for a tree build. I think if we changed up feats to include cleaves and took points from pally this might be where to be.

7 heroic, 3 monk.
TWF x3
IC: Blunt
WhirlWind (5)
Great cleave (3) Or shield line.
Extend

4 epic:
Overwhelming critical
+3 heroic feats

3 destiny:
Dire charge/arcain warrior
PTWF
Elusive target?

Legendary:
Sicon of Arboea for 20 MP

Racial options:
The best filigrees for a tree build will be the one that gives 75mp on an action boost. Therfore the best races will be ones that take no investment to get this (human/PDK) or if you have lots of ratial TR you could consiter half orc or bladeforge. No matter what AP and feets will be a huge constrain.

Please comment! More ideas, corrections, alternitives!

[Pilgrim1]

Cleric and wizard both get aura options (as does druid but no one seams to play that). Cleric gives the best spirit regen since it works out of combat but takes a but load of terible AP to get. 3 Wizard gets lesser death aura and zombi form, which is the lowest investment in AP and classes and brings up great options. Downside is this takes lots of mana to maintain and shifting between forms all the time is a nusence you also cant heal well outside of tree. Theoreticly the mabar deapest night cookie gives death aura which would provide the aura without a class. But you would have to stockpile a lot of them.

9 monk/6 pally/ 5 wizard would also be a strong contender with extended quickened displace, haste, and lesser death aura. Also wizard gets another cleave attack.

What is the best deffensive tree out there? Is it a barbian/fighter/warlock mix? How much stronger is armor vs dodge + shadowfade + evasion? And also how posible is it to get no-fail saves outside of pally?

[Tilomere]

Most defensive will be standard pali 5 fighter, 12 reaper wiz tank, with 2 less levels of fighter, 2 more levels of wizard for death aura.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...-400-PRR-5k-HP

Drop ASF by swapping out shield, leaving you at 35% - 15% augment - 15% race - 10% Sentient Weapon.

Best is relative. Cleric/Warlock/Monk double aura carries other weaker players the most.

[Pilgrim1]

Most defensive will be standard pali 5 fighter, 12 reaper wiz tank, with 2 less levels of fighter, 2 more levels of wizard for death aura.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...-400-PRR-5k-HP

Drop ASF by swapping out shield, leaving you at 35% - 15% augment - 15% race - 10% Sentient Weapon.

Best is relative. Cleric/Warlock/Monk double aura carries other weaker players the most.

Thanks for the feedback!
A couple of questions that you might know the answer to: (1) How well does WW work when not being a centered monk? Does the HP bonus from assimar pass on when in tree forum? It says that it doesn’t work with form feets, but.. tree is wierd maybe?

Thanks for the link, i bet i can get something going with that. Maybe swich to elf for displacment. I wonder how much of thoese deffences are fuled by 27 epic past lives.

I had not thought about double stacking auras, seams fun. However the lack of lvls in cleric make that aura not so great, or the lack of lvls in warlock make that aura tick less.

Mmm...

EDIT: Silly thought, but the fighter is in there for feets and stacking deffence from skill tree. I wonder if i could get similar deffence value from warlock’s deffensive tree. Posibly doing something like 5pally, 3fighter, 12 warlock.

[unbongwah]

Does the HP bonus from assimar pass on when in tree forum? It says that it doesn’t work with form feets, but.. tree is wierd maybe?

Tree is definitely weird but it is also definitely a form which makes it mutually exclusive with all other forms (i.e., animal, undead, etc) which I'm guessing includes Ascendant bond since it's listed as a form too.

[adrian69]

Tree is definitely weird but it is also definitely a form which makes it mutually exclusive with all other forms (i.e., animal, undead, etc) which I'm guessing includes Ascendant bond since it's listed as a form too.

Doing a 12 Monk, 5 Lock, 3 Ftr Aasimar tree build now, well TRing later tonight, but Tree form doesn't cancel out Ascendant Bond. In fact, you can use healing hands while in tree form as a life saver. On an off note, Barbarians can use healing hands whiles raged as a bonus.