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    This is the thing I don’t get about a lot of these 1-20 quest lists.. by repeating ANY quest you miss out on FAVOR!!!!
    FAVOR EQUALS FREE DDO POINTS!!!!!

    So for any TR train please DO NOT repeat any quest. Do more different quest. Serves two purposes... One) you run much more more content get Eva player VARIETY. Two) by running different quests you get more favor

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    Quote Originally Posted by awar1234 View Post
    This is the thing I don’t get about a lot of these 1-20 quest lists.. by repeating ANY quest you miss out on FAVOR!!!!
    FAVOR EQUALS FREE DDO POINTS!!!!!

    So for any TR train please DO NOT repeat any quest. Do more different quest. Serves two purposes... One) you run much more more content get Eva player VARIETY. Two) by running different quests you get more favor
    Look man... If you want to get favor, then by all means, get favor all you want...

    BUT DONT!!! Come to a post that is designed to explain how to level up quickly, and say that they are doing it wrong, because you don't like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by awar1234 View Post
    This is the thing I don’t get about a lot of these 1-20 quest lists.. by repeating ANY quest you miss out on FAVOR!!!!
    FAVOR EQUALS FREE DDO POINTS!!!!!

    So for any TR train please DO NOT repeat any quest. Do more different quest. Serves two purposes... One) you run much more more content get Eva player VARIETY. Two) by running different quests you get more favor
    favor isnt the point of this build.

    its time to hit cap and tr.

    and for that purpose it works

    yes you can get a fair amount of tp by not repeating but you lose some efficiency

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    Quote Originally Posted by awar1234 View Post
    This is the thing I don’t get about a lot of these 1-20 quest lists.. by repeating ANY quest you miss out on FAVOR!!!!
    FAVOR EQUALS FREE DDO POINTS!!!!!

    So for any TR train please DO NOT repeat any quest. Do more different quest. Serves two purposes... One) you run much more more content get Eva player VARIETY. Two) by running different quests you get more favor
    This has been my strategy so far, but I imagine it takes a lot longer than the other method.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OzmarDDO View Post
    - You will need a Shadow Crypts opener. A SC opener is a secondary account that has completed the first four quests of Necro 2 and gotten the quest for Shadow Crypts. Then they just need to sit in the group and you can zone in without having to do all 4 of the pre quests.
    Question about making a second account for an SC opener:

    When you run one, do you necessarily need another computer to login with the opener?

    You can't have two instances of DDO running on the same computer.... or CAN you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OzmarDDO View Post
    You can't have two instances of DDO running on the same computer.... or CAN you?
    You can, so long as you are using the official launcher, instead of the steam launcher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by banjo174 View Post
    You can, so long as you are using the official launcher, instead of the steam launcher.
    Mucho gracias! I will give this a try!

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    Quote Originally Posted by awar1234 View Post
    FAVOR EQUALS FREE DDO POINTS!!!!!
    While this is true, it ends up being a net loss overall. The sooner you TR, the sooner your favor resets, the sooner you can get more free DDO points doing easier/faster quests. If you spend twice as long hitting 20 for only 50% more favor, then you've lost favor per time invested in the game.

    At the end of the day this guide is a framework for what you can build off of for what you enjoy. If you don't like repeating quest, then...don't?
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    Quote Originally Posted by OzmarDDO View Post
    Mucho gracias! I will give this a try!

    -Ozmar the Experimenter
    If you don't mind tinkering with stuff as well, DDO-ML allows you to launch multiple sessions pretty easily. I've been using it for years now. So much better than using the official launcher.

    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...t-DDO-launcher

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    For the people just above me
    Steam Launcher, Official Launcher, it doesn't matter, you can open the options menu on the launcher (Found by hitting the tiny downwards arrow thing next to the minimize and close buttons), click options, and then in that menu, tick the "Keep Launcher Open" box.

    Thats it. Put your credentials in, log in. Opens a new DDO tab. Launcher stays open. Backspace credentials, put credentials for account 2 in, log in, DDO launches second tab. Repeat until you have all your accounts open.


    For the original commenter / OP, I like the list. I'm using it currently. But you are apparently a much better player than I.
    WW at level 3. Yup ok I got through the first half on R1, that was...tough but doable.
    2nd half of WW at level 3. This is lv 4 content my dude. 4/6 R1, at level 3? (I did try it. I died. I went back at level 4 with my RP spent and had a much better time lol.)

    Necro 1 at level 5, yea ok thats lv 7 stuff R1 at level 5 but I guess people do that now....Also Bloody Crypt at level 5. So now you're doing level 6 / 8 R1 at level 5. Ok.

    And it continues on like this. I don't know how you do it, but good on you?

    And this is in 31 hours with no pots.

    Even when I can solo R1 stuff at -2 level it makes it slower.
    Doing it at -3 level, assuming I make it through the quest at all, would make it a snail crawl.

    I imagine if you put some extra stuff in to at least get rid of the -3 level stuff, you could potentially do it even faster than 31 Hours. But maybe you just blitz through -3 level stuff, in which case nice going I guess.
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    Have you thought about how you'll update this with the new XP system?

    This analysis seems to indicate at the very least that multiple runs of the same quest should start with the lower difficulties first:
    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...vs-New-Systems

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTN View Post
    Have you thought about how you'll update this with the new XP system?

    This analysis seems to indicate at the very least that multiple runs of the same quest should start with the lower difficulties first:
    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...vs-New-Systems
    Unfortunately I don't really play DDO anymore so I can't comment on how well this works or not now. I imagine it shouldn't change too much other than as you suggest changing the order you do re-runs. VoN4 might be slightly less great now, but other than that I never relied heavily on things like optional XP.

    If anyone confirms my quest list is straight up garbage now, please let me know. I still see people recommending it on Reddit so I imagine it's somewhat viable.
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    since they changed reaper to go with the elite bonus....... what if anything would you change ( and i know u said u dont play as much any more)

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    Quote Originally Posted by zehnvhex View Post
    There are several decent TR'ing quest guides out there but so far all of them have shared the requirement that you down Sov pots non-stop, they run with a perma-group or they're wicked out of date making them sometimes hard to follow/keep pace with.

    I've created a path that I've now done numerous HTR/RTR's on and it's been pretty quick. It's not the highest reaper xp path and does involve some re-running of quests. The goal here is to level quickly without relying on Sov pots to do the heavy lifting. Reaper xp is just a nice byproduct.

    I average about 30k reaper xp per TR and it takes about ~36 hours of play time to hit 20. I typically alternate between a warlock (of course), sorcerer, rogue mech/artificer and melee cleric. I've also done some absolutely awful builds (Centered long sword favored soul) so this isn't a power build exclusive thing.

    These are all fairly popular quests too so getting groups isn't terribly difficult/uncommon if you play during peak times.


    Vale
    - Vale chain until capped <--- Vale is just what I find best/easiest to top off any leftover XP. If there's other quests you're more comfortable doing/enjoy, then go ahead and do them. Reavers Refuge stuff, Lords of Dust, etc... I just personally love Vale.
    I found this guide very helpful, accurate, and realistic. Kudos to you! Much thanks. :-)

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    I started reading and noticed a huge opportunity at the start.
    Skip Korthos: Go to the Harbor and run Protect Baudry's Interests + Stop Hazadill's Shipment, both on elite.
    Both quests can easily be run by all but the worst level 1 builds (you have to be able to kill 10 kobolds).
    For second and later TR lives, run these quests twice by abandoning the chain after stopping the shipment.
    Take L2 when done (I'm not 100% sure about 3rd+ lives).

    Protecting the crate: Start the quest, break everything, and leave the kobolds alone. At about 2:00 minutes left, kill at least 6 kobolds since you will need to trigger 2 more waves. If time runs out, you can kill the remaining trapped kobolds for completion. I don't recommend killing more than about 20 kobolds before the timer runs out since shamans can appear in later waves. If you are feeling vicious, kill all the trapped kobolds for the monster manual count. For added efficiency, I use the time in this quest to set up my UI and use the shrine to mem spells.

    While these quests are slow, they are much faster than running Korthos on level 1 - particularly The Cannith Crystal. You are probably going to the harbor anyway to get ship buffs, access your bank, and now you can pick up a level 2 hire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Careall View Post
    I started reading and noticed a huge opportunity at the start.
    Skip Korthos: Go to the Harbor and run Protect Baudry's Interests + Stop Hazadill's Shipment, both on elite.
    That's a pretty good idea. You can start the quest, get what you need done, then alt-tab and watch some youtube while you wait. i'll toss that in to the guide. Thanks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Hobgoblin View Post
    since they changed reaper to go with the elite bonus....... what if anything would you change ( and i know u said u dont play as much any more)
    If you have the new lowbie content it's worth doing as well for the gear from what I hear.

    I haven't played since 2018 or so (wanted to work through my Steam backlog which has been growing for a long time now) so I'm not 100% up to date on changes that have been made.

    That being said, I don't think I would change much. Unless SSG suddenly got more sympathetic designers, they have been over-tuning the difficulty on new content and undertuning the XP rewards since at least...I dunno, 2013. I doubt I quit the game and suddenly they fixed their XP formula or stopped giving new enemies bloated HP.

    I might sub out some re-runs for less efficient quests for the first run bonuses, but there aren't many that really stand out as being worth the additional running about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpardaX View Post
    For the original commenter / OP, I like the list. I'm using it currently. But you are apparently a much better player than I.
    I used to play competitive Counter-Strike back in the day so I might have a little bit of an advantage. If you find that your build/playstyle/whatever isn't letting you walk all over the content you can always reduce the difficulty a bit, throw in some quests I didn't mention to make up the XP difference.

    I mentioned it but this is first and foremost a -framework-. Many people have commented that they changed things around to include quests they enjoy, remove quests they don't (apparently some people absolutely -hate- Necro 1 and I love it).

    Some quests are just awful for certain builds. Single target ranged builds are awful for doing Necro 1 capstone quest because you need to kill like 200 mobs and doing that one at a time is a chore.

    One of the main reasons I made this was for myself ultimately, so that I could make sure I didn't run into the issue where I would do a quest series a level early with a group or something and then have no idea what to run when I hit the level I was going to normally do it at.

    So I'll do groups doing the Pit or something, but I absolutely will not touch Gianthold before level 13 for example.
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    the necessary guide, as always, it is easy to find the necessary information, this is an important experience for me from professional forum users

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