please make sentient xp of named items crunch from 20-27 not 21-27
That opens up a lot of named items and fun grinds: Estar trade-ins and drops; level 20 CC and Cormyrian weapons. For the latter, challenge weekend boosts will be HUGE for players to create named weapons.
this list, nix the sss epic ones:
http://m.ddowiki.com/page/Category:Minimum_level_20_weapons
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11-19-2017, 08:10 AM #161
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11-19-2017, 08:26 AM #162Community Member
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Could we get a 5pc bonus for a prismatic ray/spray type ability with the old no-save death affect? That would be the appropriate power for a sentient beholder type weapon.
Originally Posted by Cocomajobo
This I like; but why is it the other elemental sentient gems lack the on-hit weapon damage effects? Originally Posted by Cocomajobo
This has no benefit to being a melee PM, no bonuses to Zombies, Vampires, or Wraiths. (Even Liches can now be viable melees with Vistani) Originally Posted by Cocomajobo
With a name like this I'm hoping to see an absolutely great bonus for animal druids and not a rather bland barbarian looking line? Originally Posted by Cocomajobo
Great, but the only good monk option at the moment. (I'll explain below on the poison gem.) Originally Posted by Cocomajobo
As mentioned by others, no anthem? Although I'd rather there be a 5pc bonus that adds a sonic damage on melee and spells. Originally Posted by Cocomajobo
I'm just not exactly seeing what this one is going for. Is it a reference to Hurl Through Hell? If so give this one unique warlock stacking bonuses. Originally Posted by Cocomajobo
Permanent Haste Spell on equipment only negates the use of Blinding Speed as a feat. I'm not entirely sure if that's a good enough trade off. Or rather I should say; my weapon can have a max of 7 fillagree, why should I use 3 here and prevent a 5pc set when most melee builds can fit in Blind Speed as a feat? Originally Posted by Cocomajobo
It's named Otto's and there isn't a dance proc? Even if it's super low percent chance to proc; a completely irresistible dance without a DC here would be great. Originally Posted by Cocomajobo
I was excited with a name like The Blood Feast. Here I was hoping for some sort of Vampire sentience. The effects are arguably weak, but come on this is supposed to be an -endgame- system. You should know by now that 100 temp HP at endgame is a joke. Let alone tying it behind a nat 20 roll. The effect really needs to be properly increased for the 'endgame scene'. The HP proc needs to give us 1000+ HP, be dropped to any crit and be a lesser amount between 100-500HP, or drop the temp HP idea and instead reuse other ideas. Why not mimic the Sun Soul set and give us a heal cast on crits/20s. Give us a fully meta'd Heal spell that doesn't count as being cast by the player (to ensure it's not completely nullified by Reaper difficulty), or make it give us an unique source of vampirism similar to Blood Strength. And for the love of all things unholy, please if you turn this into an actual vampirism effect, do not leave out undead builds. Originally Posted by Cocomajobo
Do these bonuses stack? I'd love to see this go all the way to a 5PC set with some actual unique buffs to summoner/pet/charm builds. Originally Posted by Cocomajobo
No on hit lightning damage for melee. Originally Posted by Cocomajobo
Alright, I'll admit I love this one. I've always wanted more poison damage sources. However; please bump up the damage on the 3pc set. Assuming this gem was designed with Ninja Spy's in mind, recall that their only named weapon with poison is level 20 and excluded from sentient weapons. Additionally CC venomous weapons have much higher scaling poison effects at level 30. I'd love to see this gem have a 4pc and a 5pc, with the 5pc possibly proccing the Lolth/Bebilith venom. Originally Posted by Cocomajobo
What is the too powerful version out of curiosity? Originally Posted by Cocomajobo
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11-19-2017, 09:56 AM #163The Hatchery
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Well it should not be fed with raid loot but only with blue items! Originally Posted by zehnvhex
Indeed I would also prefer 20-27 Originally Posted by Saekee
Exactly this, especially as not everyone is staying on level cap Originally Posted by SirValentine
Last edited by SisAmethyst; 11-19-2017 at 10:19 AM.
* We have collectable bags, mind you, even hireling folders, but can I have that 6-pack for my potions please?
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11-19-2017, 11:39 AM #164Community Member
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Sentient weapon (system) should be broken down into at least 2 group weapon, defense (armor shield helmet) and maybe even jewelry. Make them exclusive in each subset.
There should be set focus
metal bypasses, incorporeal and blur/displaced mobs
tactics - hamstring type effect for -5 to 10% stacking slow, curse spewing, trip 2%(?) chance to trip
Druid set - with 10% attack speed to bear and 2d6 SA die for wolf
different filigree to add 1d6 damage(?)
Make manslayer > improved or greater manslayer to be in the same damage group as their counterpart in epic.
Have 4 or 5 set bonuses with 5% stacking attack speed and or +1 threat multiplier, and or +1 threat range and or 1[w]
Caster set for critical damage multiplier / critical chance
This is not so much an end game as much as buffing up the epic named item without rebuilding each named item from scratch.
Move the defensive set giving spell absorption, prr / mrr / etc to its own sentient (defense)
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11-19-2017, 12:31 PM #165Founder
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Sorry, I only read through the first 5 pages of this thread and skipped over the ones after that. So, my apologies to anyone that brought it up before me.
My concern with the current model is the filigrees. At current count there will be 170 in game, not counting the rare versions of them that would double the number. If they're all random drops, I feel it would be agonizing trying to farm up to your 5th set bonus. Maybe they'll drop like candy and I'll be over burdened with them in my gather bag but I RARELY ever get what I want in this game. I was hoping to TR my monk here 5 months ago but I said I wanted Jibber's sword before I do and here I am now, having run the quest more than 70+ times and still no sword. But I feel like in the 1st year of this going live, I'll be lucky to have 2 of the 5 set bonus I need for my sentient weapon even after I've unlocked my 5th slot on the gem.
Can you at least make it so you can crunch say like 10 or 20 of them to craft 1 that you need? Maybe I misread something in the developer's initial post but that many random drops makes for a HUGE low percentage to get what you want/need. I just see myself becoming crestfallen as I pick up my 20th filigree from the Sucker Punch group while I'm praying for my 2nd filigree from The Enlightened Step set.
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11-19-2017, 12:42 PM #166Community Member
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The bonuses granted by each filigree are small but the set bonuses are large, is this intended?
The intent is that the juicy flavorful stuff should be in the set bonuses, not the bonuses of the base Sentient Filigree.
Let me fix this question....
The bonuses granted by each filigree are small but the set bonuses are not as small, but still underwhelming considering the grind that we are looking at to get a 5 piece weapon, is this intended? Are we really looking at an end game system that is incredible weak?
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11-19-2017, 12:52 PM #167The Hatchery
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Uhhh a Sentient weapon (system) with armor and jewelry? Unless I miss-read the post, the sentient weapon is usually a single item, a form of a pet or companion which as the name suggest usually is a talking weapon. The set bonus as I understand come from putting an additional gem of a particular type on this single weapon, but you can also mix gems in which case you would loose out on an eventual set bonus. Originally Posted by IBCrabin
I would advice against metal or alignment bypass this is what the red/orange slot in a weapon is for. Additionally the Druid one with 10% attack speed and 2d6 SA + additional 1d6 would be way out of line...* We have collectable bags, mind you, even hireling folders, but can I have that 6-pack for my potions please?
* Having already a past life on the dieng EU servers, I rerolled here and started from scratch as I like the game and the community, so lets see what awaits me here
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11-19-2017, 12:54 PM #168
I think they are not BtC or BtA so they will be all over the ASAH Originally Posted by Rylex_Night-Shield
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11-19-2017, 01:18 PM #169Community Member
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Logged in just to say that this is the most uninspired and lazy loot in an expansion so far. I am very surprised no one even commented on that.
There are no interesting effects, there is just some silly number bloat.
I read quickly through the tables and got bored half way, so maybe there is something interesting, but then there is an excessive amount of filler.
I was kinda keeping an eye on the game, specially since you told us to wait for Ravenloft for interesting loot.
All I see is some OKIsh quests and a lot of boring number bloating items, combined with a doses of some clearly not well thought out grindy system (yeah, grinding easy items, etc.).
No way on earth I pay 40 dollars for this, let alone paying 50 extra bugs for some cosmetics.
I consider thunder forged to be the last interesting crafting system, with all its imbalance and so on.
I guess this is it for me. I cannot understand the players that say that they like this; I simply cannot understand their thought process.
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11-19-2017, 01:51 PM #170Founder
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In the purity set bonus, you have the following listed:
What Energy Drain Immunity is " too powerful"?4 Pieces: Energy Drain Immunity - The one we are willing to give out, not the one that's too powerfulDorian
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11-19-2017, 02:22 PM #171Hero
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Unslotting the gem requires unslotting each of the filigrees first.. this potentially will be an exorbitant cost since it will require using multiple unslotting tools.
Why does the gem unslotting require the filigrees to be removed considering we would be unslotting the gem to move to another weapon of choice.
Please look at this function.
We should be able to unslot the gem with filigrees intact to reslot onto another weapon.Argo: Degenerate Matter - 200
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11-19-2017, 02:32 PM #172Community Member
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10% attack speed on bear is not out of line. How often do you see a bear running around in this game? compared to wolf, the bear DPS is lacking. 2d6 SA die on wolf is not out of line. The only way wolf get the SA die to work, is when they bluff, make them helpless, not have agro and or there is a way to bypass their SA immunity. Originally Posted by SisAmethyst
metal or alignment bypass is not out of line either for the old named items. A lot of the mobs in epic now a days have 2 DR to bypass. Not a lot of named items from the old days have 2 orange/ red / purple slot or have any good / metal bypass built in. I am sure you have seen those DR on mobs in Amrath Trial of archon pack on Epic Elite. Those old named items can benefit bypass to make them work in higher level epic content.
I am suggesting to break up the sentient weapon set bonus into different group instead of putting all on weapons.
There not a lot of good named weapons to turn into sentient weapons. Cetus have pointed out how few named 2hf there are people go to as an example
Sentient weapon system will end up being something for eTR and not a whole lot of end game capped reaper or raiding use.Last edited by IBCrabin; 11-19-2017 at 02:43 PM.
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11-19-2017, 02:55 PM #173Cosmetic Guru
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Originally Posted by JOTMON
Oh! I missed that... yes that is potentially a deal breaker. What would be the ongoing cost of this? It sounds like a needless aggravation.
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11-19-2017, 03:34 PM #174Community Member
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ok now grind out those 200+ named weapons after they decrease their drop rate (RIP Envenomed Blade) doing the same quests that you have been doing the past 10 years and using recycled content to increase the grind. Enjoy more of your power creep to destroy again the same quests made 10 years ago for another 30 lives of guess what... doing the same quests again!
And to add to the flavor you will do this as a warlock because warlock=efficiency in a grind-oriented game for 30 lives... heh if you haven't turned Durk already.
Meanwhile you will be reminded how useless all other non-caster classes are, how great the melee pass was and how alive melees are now thanks to it, how awesome it is to lose all your gear/PLs/etc. when TRing, because... challenge and you will enjoy the friendly customer service who will hint out your mistakes to you for playing DDO in ways such as: "It is your fault for accidentaly hitting the Finish button". Of course fixing broken things is not expected of SSG because charity and therefore you obviously will have to pay to get out of the mess caused by bugs/lost items or dead servers.
"Did you just transfer to Orien because it was not dead, but now it is dead thanks to you being out-smarted from SSG by having the default server changed after Orien cashed in?"
Oh well nothing we can do for you... now pay 50+ to transfer all your toons to Cannith until it is changed again
But no wait... DDO is free and you can play on potato PC so why you complain? Of course it is free cause no one would pay for this game anyway in this state in which they've brought it down to and yes you can play on potato PC because the System Requirements NEVER change!
Expansion?? Improved Graphics after expansion?? What is this...
Dunno it usually always happens in proper games like WOW and GW2, maybe just saying?!
It's ok people I don't blame you, it takes a look out of your "window" a look at the "guy" or the "game" elsewhere to open your eyes and a bit of a change, say a game from the top of the list to see and compared and to realize how sad things are over here. But all is fine here and nothing to see... enjoy your grind and your raids (if you manage to fill the group) and.. oh look at that 6-man R1 raid from Omni. I guess the other 6 empty spots were... propably busy or who knows having internet issues.. ah yes that must have been the reason!
P.S. I heard the dupers can max their new shiny weapons from Day 1. Oh what you thought there are no dupers in MMOs?
and because edit is free I wanted to remind everyone how awesome DDO is because it encourages group play and pugs and rewards new players and this is why this game has this population omg! Now you can remind your pug buddies how much you need them and how you love carrying them because player scaling is so perfectly designed and you must have 5 newb pugs because 1 pug>reaper mobs.
Pugs will now make you feel "badass" because you will see them begging for "ze named loot" but you will deny them "ze named loot" because you want to destroy it to upgrade your epic awesome sentient weapons.
This is so well thought from Turbine and so clever.. omg I'm out of words, please give them an award.. this.. I can't, I feel so stupid arghgjfgg.
Now the pugs will no longer have to bother with USELESS Named items! Never again! No more slowing you down with "Who needs this Stick of Truth?"
"Roll d123 Envenomed Blade"! No more running Ruins of Threnal and picking up named items, no salvage them all! This is so perfectly and cleverly planned, the new players will now just instantly move to end game and will become pros to pass down their wisdom to newer new-players which will flood our servers, because of this system! They will no longer be bothered with generations of old and rusty items. NO! Instantly to 30 and salvage everything for exp!
GG Turbine I'm speechlessLast edited by Iriesys; 11-19-2017 at 03:56 PM.
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11-19-2017, 03:47 PM #175Community Member
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There had better be a kobold voiced one. Have not bought the expansion yet but that may be the thing that encourages me to do so. Originally Posted by Stingae
Anything that improves the experience playing epic content is a plus to me it is by far the most lacking part of the game. Revamp epic destinies, add more destiny levels, and more destinies once you are done with the class passes please wink wink nudge nudge. Would love if destinies ended up looking more like path of exiles or final fantasy 10 skill maps.
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11-19-2017, 03:51 PM #176Ultimate Completionist
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Originally Posted by Steelstar
Silverthread Belt: Belt
Devotion (Heroic: +77) (Legendary: +202)
Nullification (Heroic: +77) (Legendary: +202)
Healing Lore (Heroic: +11%) (Legendary: +29%)
Void Lore (Heroic: +11%) (Legendary: +29%)
Blue Augment Slot
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Burnscar Sash: Belt
Corrosion (Heroic: +77) (Legendary: +202)
Combustion (Heroic: +77) (Legendary: +202)
Acid Lore (Heroic: +11%) (Legendary: +29%)
Fire Lore (Heroic: +11%) (Legendary: +29%)
Green Augment Slot
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Thrummingspark Cord: Belt
Magnetism (Heroic: +77) (Legendary: +202)
Glaciation (Heroic: +77) (Legendary: +202)
Lightning Lore (Heroic: +11%) (Legendary: +29%)
Ice Lore (Heroic: +11%) (Legendary: +29%)
Yellow Augment Slot
These are major items seeing as "enhancement" bonus to spellpower is indicated?
This might even shift some heroic gear setup.
Nice applying the elements in this fashion:
Pos & Neg
Earth & Fire
Air & Water
Very significant.
This also leaves an opening for main hand sentient weapon, seeing as these could replace Leg Greensteel at cap.
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11-19-2017, 04:18 PM #177Community Member
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My journey through reading the notes:
Me: I hope the sentient weapons are interesting, flavorful, and powerful!
info: ...the sentience is tied to a gem you can put in other weapons...
Me: oh, that's different. Oh hey, Thunderforged sentien-
info: ...nope, non-crafted only...
Me: aw, well, oh! I have an Epic Xuum I'd love to make viable again-
info: ...nope. ml21 only. Xuum is ml20, so no dice...
Me: dang. well, I'll figure out that part later then. The names are cool, but most of the powers seem very generic/bland, and very small/weak for the epic level/end game long term farm I thought it would be. Wait, what's this now?
info: ...augment bags now have a search function...
me: YES! (actually exclaimed this out loud irl)
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11-19-2017, 04:40 PM #178The Hatchery
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All your old items are junk now...+20 stat, +9 insightful, +8 Spell Pen are all available.Also, you can offhand your LGS if you really want to keep it, but you'll probably find that it's been upgraded with all this new stuff once you completely rework your gear. (That's what you'll have to do for an expansion this big, and why I've held off on fully decking my character I keep at 30 for raids) Originally Posted by deconedi
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11-19-2017, 05:05 PM #179Community Member
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I'm still deciding how I feel about this.
The sentient bonuses should stack with each other if at all possible re: coding. There's no other reason why someone can't slot two +1 int or whatever and not get both bonuses. Originally Posted by JOTMON
Originally Posted by zehnvhex
Originally Posted by Aelonwy
I'm not going to quote all the concerns here, because there were a lot of them, but these kinda sum it up. I'm genuinely not sure how I feel about it. On the one hand, I like the idea of being able to get some use out of named items no one wants or needs instead of the usual vendoring. This happens even in raids ("Anyone need the medium armor? Anyone? Bueller?"). On the other hand, I am also seriously concerned about people not following Wheaton's Law when it comes to loot. I am a big proponent of "your loot is your loot," but generally speaking people pass stuff and help each other out when they don't need it. This is good for everyone. But with this system there will literally never be a named item that someone doesn't have a use for, because you can always feed the beast (or stable of beasts, eventually). Originally Posted by blerkington
I too am confused about this. Last I checked, level 20 was still epic. There are a ton of the old S/S/S epic items that would be lots of fun with the sentient system. Please expand to those items. Originally Posted by SirValentine
It feels more complicated than it should be, certainly. I'm not sure what the point of the filigrees is. I would rather have seen the jewels drop with the set already coded, and as you feed it, you gain power inherent to the jewel. The extra stuff just seems more like crafting and less like sentient weapons. Plus, more complex and more easily hacked. Originally Posted by die
I have no problem with it not applying to cannith crafted, but I don't understand why LGS and TF are excluded. Unless, again, it's a coding issue, these should be included. Originally Posted by Ehryn
Yeah, some of the bonuses seem a little out of place. Originally Posted by Dielzen
Originally Posted by Niminae
Originally Posted by Tenelai
I agree. If you want to have a limit where only one can be equipped at a time, that's reasonable. But throwers really depend on that offhand weapon, and given that epic named throwers are either rare or not very good (because of limited thrower utility for many throwing weapons)...you're kinda screwing thrower builds. Originally Posted by JOTMON
This is a very true statement. I love my shared crafting bank and use it for tons of stuff, and I expect to use it for filigrees as well. I'd love to be able to find things more quickly. Originally Posted by Annex
Please fix this. It's super important. In particular, with the amount of lag that occurs in the game, sometimes it looks like you are grabbing one thing, but if fact you grabbed something different. If something is locked, you shouldn't be able to do anything destructive or potentially loss-inducing with it. Originally Posted by JOTMON
Excellent question. I would love to feed stuff to help my overflowing inventory mid-quest, but if not, it's not a gamebreaker. Originally Posted by Vulkoorex
The drop rate will make or break this system, probably. If it's too low, it's a recap of Sands S/S/S. If it's too high, everyone will have what they want in a month. I do think it's a good idea to have the filigrees unbound so they are tradeable, which might mitigate some drop rate frustration. Originally Posted by Rylex_Night-Shield
I don't think the bloat is bad for the most part. I would definitely have preferred some unique effect for each jewel based on their personality aside from smart-aleck remarks. Originally Posted by BigErkyKid
And a question I didn't see answered: this is a unique stacking bonus, correct? These should all be sentient bonuses. If it doesn't stack with everything else in the game, the bonuses are too small to be useful. Seems obvious, but I want to make sure, because history.A little snark, no vitriol.
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11-19-2017, 05:28 PM #180Community Member
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*Please* add the ML 20 named items to the list. It would be great to see Sword Of Shadows, Epic Antique Greataxes, Xuum, etc with these in it, as it could breathe new life into them. There's really no reason to exclude them.
