Basic Warlock Feats?

[tralfaz81]

What are the best generic feats to take for a warlock and in which order (and why, if you feel like putting the effort in)? I'm thinking about rolling my first warlock (most likely GOO) and need a rough idea to what feats are best. Thanks.

Oh, and what skills should I be putting my points into?

[unbongwah]

Several warlock build threads to answer all your warlock-building questions:

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...ld-Blast-Build
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...mpanion-thread
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...10skull-tested
https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...nd-DPS-Warlock

Those are just a few pure builds, I'm not even gonna bother with the MCed `lock builds.

[tralfaz81]

Several warlock build threads to answer all your warlock-building questions:

Yes and no.

There are a number of threads about warlocks. There are a number of threads where you have to dig through all the other information to find the feats for very specific builds, and (outside of a few feats) they all vary considerably in which feats they suggest. And if you dig through them (as I have) none of them answer the question I asked.

What are the best feats for a generic, GOO Warlock? To be a little more specific, the best, generic feats for someone new to Warlocks who might like to change up the trees frequently just to kind of learn the class. I personally find (and suggest to others) resetting your trees every few days a great way to explore and learn a new class. To just get in there and play with the options and learn by doing.

I don't want a list of feats specific for how one person likes to play (like the gigglelock - as good as that build might be). I want a framework to ease the learning curve down to just the enhancements; the feats can be explored in later builds.

[rikkitikkitarvi]

Essential Feat - Epic Arcane Eldritch Blast.

ALL others are dependent on how you play.

[mr420247]

First Heroic racials or Epics farming

Maximize, Empower, Completionist, Wiz pl, All good

Goo Spell pen, Spell focus Enchant and or Necro

Enlarge and Quicken

Skills 2 points in jump, perform 10 points in umd, max spell craft. balance is ok until you have knockdown immunity, concentration until quiken

[adrian69]

Yes and no.

There are a number of threads about warlocks. There are a number of threads where you have to dig through all the other information to find the feats for very specific builds, and (outside of a few feats) they all vary considerably in which feats they suggest. And if you dig through them (as I have) none of them answer the question I asked.

What are the best feats for a generic, GOO Warlock? To be a little more specific, the best, generic feats for someone new to Warlocks who might like to change up the trees frequently just to kind of learn the class. I personally find (and suggest to others) resetting your trees every few days a great way to explore and learn a new class. To just get in there and play with the options and learn by doing.

I don't want a list of feats specific for how one person likes to play (like the gigglelock - as good as that build might be). I want a framework to ease the learning curve down to just the enhancements; the feats can be explored in later builds.

Heroics
Maximize
Empower
Quicken
Enlarge (if Instakilling)
Mental Toughness
Imp. Mental Toughness
Spell Focus: Evo (or Enchant if Fey or CC) for twisting DCs

Epic
Wellspring of Power
Arcane Pulse
Scion of Fire
(21) Arcane Eldrith Burst and (26) Epic Arcane Eldritch Burst or whatever their called

[Hilltrot]

When first starting out, quicken is best. Follow this by maximize and then empower.

After that you have to ask yourself what type of warlock do you want to be.

[goldgolem]

Max+ empower as first feats are only if you play aura. Other types of warlock I prefer this for my heroic setup

Feats
Extend is good early for blur, haste. Swap it out later if you need, I generally keep it
Heighten rocks your web and later tentacles
Forum builds say take Max + Emp as first two feats - but all it works on is tentacles at lvl 10. Better to take those later and have more useful feats earlier - extend and heighten
Force of personality turns out to be a must have
There is no need for quicken on heroics that I have found up to R3 - I use concentration and it works fine

Current feat setup
Lvl 1: Extend
Lvl 3: Force of personality
Lvl 6: Heighten
Lvl 9: Maximise
Lvl 12: Empower
Lvl 15: Completionist
Lvl 18: Wizard PL

[unbongwah]

Forum builds say take Max + Emp as first two feats - but all it works on is tentacles at lvl 10.

You're forgetting the SLAs in the warlock trees which are boosted for free with metamagics. ES and TS has two each, SE has four; so no matter which is your primary tree, you gain some benefit from Max+Emp fairly early on.

[goldgolem]

You're forgetting the SLAs in the warlock trees which are boosted for free with metamagics. ES and TS has two each, SE has four; so no matter which is your primary tree, you gain some benefit from Max+Emp fairly early on.

In theory yes they work on the SLAs, but I dont use them in heroics - the time they take to cast is too much of a dps loss vs just keeping my blast button held down

[goldgolem]

I want a framework to ease the learning curve down to just the enhancements; the feats can be explored in later builds.

The problem is that the feats and enhancements are very connected. If you change your enhancement trees, you would generally want a slightly different feat choice.

Also whether you plan to CC, evo blast or instakill (or at different times in your life) you would have different optimal enhancements and feat choices. So there is no definitive answer on the right feats until we know what your enhancement will be and your preferred playstyle at specific levels in the life

If you plan on swapping a lot, then probably max + empower + force of personality + heighten would be core feats

In this post https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...ughts-amp-tips you can see what mix of feats, enhancements and playstyles work for me for a fast racial TR on 1-3 skulls. If I was doing it a different way, or for example I planned to also do epic levels, I might have a completely different set up

[FuzzyDuck81]

You're forgetting the SLAs in the warlock trees which are boosted for free with metamagics. ES and TS has two each, SE has four; so no matter which is your primary tree, you gain some benefit from Max+Emp fairly early on.

I tend to go primarily soul eater since I find mixing in the SLAs & stuff less boring than simply blasting & yeah, maximise plus empower on consume, stricken & burning blood lets you have some serious attack power in those lower levels, then have the aura running & use a 2hander.

[goldgolem]

I tend to go primarily soul eater since I find mixing in the SLAs & stuff less boring than simply blasting & yeah, maximise plus empower on consume, stricken & burning blood lets you have some serious attack power in those lower levels, then have the aura running & use a 2hander.

That sounds horrifically suboptimal to me. But I guess thats the beauty of warlock, its very one dimensional, but has other dimensions too if you want it to

[FuzzyDuck81]

That sounds horrifically suboptimal to me. But I guess thats the beauty of warlock, its very one dimensional, but has other dimensions too if you want it to

The problem is that the optimal approach for warlock is really kinda boring for me, i'd rather go suboptimal and enjoy it