Input request on EK martial ePL build

[UberKang]

Hello everyone!

I am currently playing a sorcerer (Sor20) and I've been enjoying the class quite a bit. I usually just hit 30 and epic and heroic TR, but this time around I have been thinking about getting some epic PLs before I go back to 1 and Arcane, Divine and Primal builds all seem to be fairly straightforward.

When it comes to the martial sphere, however, I am a little uncertain whether the build I've come up with will be playable, as I don't have much experience with melee. My plan is not to have the build be endgame viable, but I also don't want to end up with a character that struggles to even properly complete the dailies up to 30.

Also, since I couldn't check on live at the moment, I used the AP costs from the wiki for the Vistani tree, but some of them seemed odd - namely, Knife Training I, Weapon Versatility and Celerity. So I've added the cost per Tier to the end of each line in the list, just in case.

Is there anything I'm missing? Any input will be greatly appreciated!

Vistani EK
Sorcerer 20
True Neutral Human


Stats
. . . . . . . .36pt . . Tome . . Level Up
. . . . . . . .---- . . ---- . . --------
Strength. . . . 16. . . .+5. . . .4: STR
Dexterity . . . 16. . . .+5. . . .8: STR
Constitution. . 16. . . .+5. . . 12: STR
Intelligence. . .8. . . .+5. . . 16: STR
Wisdom. . . . . .8. . . .+2. . . 20: STR
Charisma. . . . 14. . . .+5. . . 24: STR
. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .28: STR

Skills
. . . . . 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
Concent . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Spellcr . 4. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 23
Bluff . . . . . . . . . . . 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 20
. . . . .------------------------------------------------------------
. . . . . 8. 2. 2. 2. 2. 2. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 3. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4. 4


Feats

.1. . . . : Two Weapon Fighting
.1 Human. : Power Attack
.3. . . . : Two Weapon Defense
.6. . . . : Quicken Spell
.9. . . . : Empower Spell
12. . . . : Improved Two Weapon Fighting
15. . . . : Maximize Spell
18. . . . : Improved Critical: Piercing
21 Epic . : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic . : Greater Two Weapon Fighting
26 Destiny: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
27 Epic . : Intensify Spell
28 Destiny: Epic Spell Power: Force
29 Destiny: Arcane Warrior
30 Epic . : Embolden Spell
30 Legend : Scion of: Arborea


Enhancements (80 of 80 AP)

Eldritch Knight (Sorcerer) (33 AP)

• Eldritch Strike, Spellsword: Acid, Spellsword II: Flame, Spellsword III: Acid, Spellsword IV: Flame
  
  1. Improved Mage Armor III, Battlemage III
  2. Improved Shield III, Light Armor Proficiency, Martial Training
  3. Arcane Barrier III, Elemental Resistance II, Critical Accuracy III, Strength
  4. Medium Armor Proficiency, Critical Damage III, Strength

Vistani Knife Fighter (47 AP)

• Knife Expertise, Knife Juggler, Knife Specialist, One With Blades, Vistani Fortune, Knife Master (6 AP)
  
  1. Vistani Knife Training I, Undead Hunter, Mist Stalker I, Rapid Attack (6 AP)
  2. Vistani Knife Training II, Bleeding Cuts, Mist Stalker II, Weapon Versatility, Haste Boost (10 AP)
  3. Vistani Knife Training III, Fan of Knives, Mist Stalker III, Strength (10 AP)
  4. Vistani Knife Training IV, Celerity, Mist Stalker IV, Double Daggers, Strength (9 AP)
  5. Vistani Knife Training V, Mist Stalker V, Blessed Blades (6 AP)

Destiny (24 AP)

Legendary Dreadnought

1. Attack Boost III, Strength
2. Imp. Power Attack, Strength
3. Critical Damage III, Strength
4. Strength
5. Advancing Blows, Devastating Critical, Strength
6. Master's Blitz

Twists of Fate (3 fate points)

1. Rejuvenation Cocoon (Tier 1 Primal)
2. Energy Resistance (Tier 1 Sentinel)

[unbongwah]

I don't know how viable it is - I'd rather go INT-based wizard 20 w/Harper than sorc EK - but I can tell you that Vistani tier-5 is far far FAR better than tier-5 EK. Just learn to cast Tensers.

[SpartanKiller13]

I don't know how viable it is - I'd rather go INT-based wizard 20 w/Harper than sorc EK - but I can tell you that Vistani tier-5 is far far FAR better than tier-5 EK. Just learn to cast Tensers.

100% agree, EK T5 is rather pathetic.

I'd recommend dipping 3-4 levels into Paladin. This opens up the defender tree (which you have Medium armor for +20% hp) as well as giving some nice burst heals and +11/14 to saves depending on your Cha. Sorc 9th level spells really only costs you Hold Monster, Mass.

If you were doing Wizard I'd say 17/3, but Sorcs don't get 9th level spells until 18th level.

My AP split would be something like 23 AP into EK (Core 4 and Medium Armor Proficiency), 41 AP into VKF (put your T5 here), and 13 into Sacred Defender (+25 PRR/MRR, +20% hp, +3 LoH). 3 leftover AP into Human for Healamp and damage boost.

[UberKang]

You are both absolutely right. I hadn't paid enough attention to the Tier 5 Vistani enhancements, to be honest. Originally I was going T5 fire savant with THF instead of TWF.

The character is already at Sor20, so I'm really just trying to squeeze a couple of martial PLs from him without any LR+X. I know it's very (very) far from optimal, so my hope would be that the Vistani tree kinda carried the whole thing.

[SpartanKiller13]

You are both absolutely right. I hadn't paid enough attention to the Tier 5 Vistani enhancements, to be honest. Originally I was going T5 fire savant with THF instead of TWF.

The character is already at Sor20, so I'm really just trying to squeeze a couple of martial PLs from him without any LR+X. I know it's very (very) far from optimal, so my hope would be that the Vistani tree kinda carried the whole thing.

I have't used it yet, but VKF looks very viable.

I'd throw my leftover AP into human then probably. Maybe grab a Dragonmark or something. Or Harper, get a little extra damage.

[unbongwah]

Why so many metamagics? You didn't really spec for caster DPS or invest in Savant trees. Did you just have nothing better to take? Or do you plan to use a lot of missile spells?

[UberKang]

Why so many metamagics? You didn't really spec for caster DPS or invest in Savant trees. Did you just have nothing better to take? Or do you plan to use a lot of missile spells?

Both, actually. Since I would be going into EK for the armor proficiencies, I figured I'd make at least some use of the force spell power in the core enhancements. And I also didn't come up with anything specially useful that the character would qualify at those specific levels due to the low BAB.

I have't used it yet, but VKF looks very viable.

I'd throw my leftover AP into human then probably. Maybe grab a Dragonmark or something. Or Harper, get a little extra damage.

If I were to remove the metamagic feats, I'd probably also follow your suggestion and go into Harper. And the dragonmark of passage might be a good idea, as well as getting some healing amp.

[Sydril]

Here's a link to a build that works well enough in the Martial sphere. It's rather old but the basics are sound.

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...ry-Drow-Evoker

I would recommend maintaining some level of DC for spells, unless you plan on playing a lot of reaper and EE content.

Another consideration would be to focus on Enchantment for Mass Hold and work in Cleave and Great cleave which provide significant aoe melee dps.

If I were to revamp the fusion reactor build for current content I'd possibly use the human feat to pick up Khopesh proficiency.

I'd be wary of Tenser's as the cooldown penalty can really make a sorcerer suffer. Power work stun and kill for example are great on a melee sorcerer but only really benefit from the shortened sorcerer cooldowns.