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    Default Rogue/Monk/Ranger For Speed/Survival Elite/Reaper 1

    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    OTOH, fastest sneak build would be rog / monk / rgr: something like monk 15 / rog 3 / rgr 2 for 28% base run speed (monk + Acrobat) to start with and taking all three stealth speed bonuses (Ninja + Assassin + DWS).
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    Hi Unbongwah,

    Could you do a build for this for a first lifer, I am interested in the speed and Monk/Rogue build, that would still be playable on at least Elite/Reaper 1. Any Race and Any class, what stats, feats and all that, whatever the best options would be for the speed and survival. Levels 1-20.

    Thank you,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flintridge View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    OTOH, fastest sneak build would be rog / monk / rgr: something like monk 15 / rog 3 / rgr 2 for 28% base run speed (monk + Acrobat) to start with and taking all three stealth speed bonuses (Ninja + Assassin + DWS).
    Hi Unbonwash,

    Could you do a build for this for a first lifer, I am interested in the speed and Monk/Rogue build, that would still be playable on at least Elite/Reaper 1. Any Race and Any class, what stats, feats and all that, whatever the best options would be for the speed and survival. Levels 1-20.
    (Might be better off if ya spell his name properly; hint, it's written right next to the quote.)

    The gimmick that allows stealth sprinting is an Epic Destiny, Shadowdancer which is only available in epics (above level 20).

    Here's probably where you want to post.

    Here's an 18/2 Monk/Rogue quarterstaff build, by Unbongwah.

    Here's a more recent 18/1/1 Monk/Rogue/Cleric quarterstaff build, by Vish (recommended by Unbongwah).

    Here's a thread about 18/1/1 or 18/2 Rogue builds, also including speed-run videos using the above burst sneak stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpartanKiller13 View Post
    (Might be better off if ya spell his name properly; hint, it's written right next to the quote.)

    The gimmick that allows stealth sprinting is an Epic Destiny, Shadowdancer which is only available in epics (above level 20).
    Hi SpartanKiller13,

    Did not realize i spelled his name wrong. I fixed it, accidents happen. I did not see shadow dancer in his post there, just the enhancements. So the Ninja + Assassin + DWS he mentions only works if you also add in Shadow dancer tree?

    thank you for the links as well i will look at them.

    Thank you,

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    If all you're looking for is speed, you can toss a level of Barb in there for +5% more (you gain 10% from Barb, but lose 5% from Monk 18). However, losing the Monk 18 capstone may not be worth it if you're going on to Epic levels. Otoh, if you're just going to TR @ 20, you may want to aim for an 18-level build anyway, since you'll only be at 20 for a moment in the toon's life.

    However, "the fastest" is no great improvement over "very, very fast" - they're all of a type at that point.

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    Interesting to see this thread necro'd again, as I had recently been discussing high movement speed builds for my static group.

    Looking back over the thread, I realize I had actually missed a build that has a higher burst speed than any others I mentioned:

    EDIT: except it doesn't! Thanks for pointing out my error

    18 Monk/2 Druid

    Base - 100%
    Enhancement - 50% Pendant (public only) / +40% Shadow Walk (quest)
    VIP - 10% (public only)
    Monk - 30% Fast Movement
    Druid - 10% Wolf Form

    Passive Move Speed:

    = 200% (public) / 180% (quest)

    Burst Move Speed:
    Action Boost - 50% Snowslide this is wrong
    Action Boost - 45% Sprint Boost

    = 245% (public) / 225% (quest)

    It's only 1% faster than the previous fastest mentioned, but given that the thread aims to find the absolute fastest, I figured I'd mention it! Nope! It's fast, but not the fastest
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    I'm not saying TRing isn't optional but its kind of optional in the way that defeating the waves in Devil Assault are optional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuryFlash View Post

    18 Monk/2 Druid

    Burst Move Speed:
    Action Boost - 50% Snowslide

    I was expecting the falconry speed boost with this build... are you sure you can cast Snowslide with lvl2 druid?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FuryFlash View Post
    Burst Move Speed:
    Action Boost - 50% Snowslide
    Quote Originally Posted by RAFAR View Post
    I was expecting the falconry speed boost with this build... are you sure you can cast Snowslide with lvl2 druid?
    That was gonna be my question: curious how you cast a level 9 spell on a level 2 druid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flintridge View Post
    Could you do a build for this for a first lifer, I am interested in the speed and Monk/Rogue build, that would still be playable on at least Elite/Reaper 1. Any Race and Any class, what stats, feats and all that, whatever the best options would be for the speed and survival. Levels 1-20.
    Honestly, I didn't have a build in mind, it was purely hypothetical. I guess I would do it as a handwrap build? 34 Shintao / 27 Falconry / 8 DWS / 4 Assassin / 4 Ninja is 77 APs.
    Quote Originally Posted by SpartanKiller13 View Post
    The gimmick that allows stealth sprinting is an Epic Destiny, Shadowdancer which is only available in epics (above level 20).
    The DWS, Ninja, and Assassin Stealthy movement speed bonuses stack and was confirmed as WAI. Not sure if they stack additively or multiplicatively, but you can have all three by level 4 if you're so inclined.

    Shadow Training II stacking as well was confirmed as not WAI, but I don't recall seeing any mention of it being nerfed / bugfixed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RAFAR View Post
    I was expecting the falconry speed boost with this build... are you sure you can cast Snowslide with lvl2 druid?
    Quote Originally Posted by unbongwah View Post
    That was gonna be my question: curious how you cast a level 9 spell on a level 2 druid.
    LOL! Good catch, guys. I had in my head 18 Druid/2 Monk when I wrote that for some reason :P

    Makes sense why I didn't post that one originally then - it's 10% lower than I said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aelonwy View Post
    I'm not saying TRing isn't optional but its kind of optional in the way that defeating the waves in Devil Assault are optional.
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