ASAH missing

[Ghwyn]

Bound items became prevalent mainly due to dupers. Those that say otherwise are either ignorant to the extent of the duping or part of it. I am surprised that a program has not been developed to find large stacks of rare items to flag the accounts of dupers.

I'd rather play the game than spend hours duping or running macros.

The big thing that people don't realize is that duping affects the game, as people don't run quests or raids if they don't need the items that drop from it.

[Wizza]

Bound items became prevalent mainly due to dupers. Those that say otherwise are either ignorant to the extent of the duping or part of it. I am surprised that a program has not been developed to find large stacks of rare items to flag the accounts of dupers.

I'd rather play the game than spend hours duping or running macros.

The big thing that people don't realize is that duping affects the game, as people don't run quests or raids if they don't need the items that drop from it.

Look at all those people that duped EE GH items and CitW loot.

Oh wait..

[LT218]

SSG is evil because they fix exploits?

I feel for the people who have lost stuff in TR, it's a big issue, but these exploits are a big problem also. These people destroyed the game economy a few years back. It's still just recovering.

If there's an exploit I'm very much glad they closed it. F* the cheaters.

Nice job completely missing the point while apologizing for SSG's terrible treatment of their customers.

To spell it out, no, they're not evil because they fix exploits. They're lame because they do not fix the bugs that are detrimental to players with the same speed as they do exploits that benefit players.

Again, if the bugged-to-hell TR system were duplicating players gear instead of deleting it, it's almost assured that the TR system would have been taken offline just like the ASAH and monster manuals. But since it's only hurting players, not helping them, the TR system is still live and people are still losing years worth of time invested in gearing and powering up toons while customer service telling them "nothing we can do for you, tough doody".

Worse yet, they've known the TR system had some serious bugs in it for years yet they went ahead and created the racial TR and reaper XP systems that highly encouraged people to use the said bugged system even more heavily without having the decency to actually fix the TR bugs. It doesn't make any sense from a customer satisfaction standpoint.

It's similar to how they keep making cosmetics the weekly sale items while the appearance preview system is out of commission due to the broken in-game store...

Regarding the exploiters, all I can say is that nothing they did ever had a negative impact on my gameplay experience. On the other hand, shutting the ASAH down, losing all my tomes during a TR a few years ago, having in-game friends quit when they lose all their gear, etc. etc. most definitely had a negative impact on my gameplay experience.

[KomradKillMachine]

Bound items became prevalent mainly due to dupers.

No. Bound items became prevalent so that suckers like you kept cashing out for the new & fresh pack every time.

[Marshal_Lannes]

Regarding the exploiters, all I can say is that nothing they did ever had a negative impact on my gameplay experience. On the other hand, shutting the ASAH down, losing all my tomes during a TR a few years ago, having in-game friends quit when they lose all their gear, etc. etc. most definitely had a negative impact on my gameplay experience.

With all due respect you have no idea what you're talking about. If you knew what had happened (and I do) you would not be running with this line. The shard exchange had to be shut down. In fact I would be surprised if it comes back, at least in its current form.

[ringage]

what we are talking about???
fixing an exploit with out punishment is nothink,fixing an exploit with out even remove the efect of the cheaters is a total fail,makes me wonder why i m still paying a vip subscription for this game
those photos is from ddo facebook page and if you wonder yes those players still playing and playing with out even removing the effects from them









those players is on cannith

also i tryed before 2 days me and other 3 persons to report those online to see if the person who post those on fb page speaks the truth,and yes no action was taking,players still there and effects still there
i m totaly agreedwith the ssd to close ah to stop the exploit but only if they punish or remove the effects of the cheaters,cause if not they punish only the good players ,i pay every month my vip and i cant use the ah now because of players who cheat ddo,those players will stay on the game after the fix and they will still have all the goods of the exploit so ssd punish me and all the no cheaters
also why i must pay for xp pots,slayers pots and loot pots when after a report you let exploiters untouched?
my opinion is all the vips must push ssd to take an action against them
why i must loose somehink of the game because of them or why i must pay for somethink that they take for free

[FuryFlash]

what we are talking about???
fixing an exploit with out punishment is nothink,fixing an exploit with out even remove the efect of the cheaters is a total fail,makes me wonder why i m still paying a vip subscription for this game
those photos is from ddo facebook page and if you wonder yes those players still playing and playing with out even removing the effects from them









those players is on cannith

also i tryed before 2 days me and other 3 persons to report those online to see if the person who post those on fb page speaks the truth,and yes no action was taking,players still there and effects still there
i m totaly agreedwith the ssd to close ah to stop the exploit but only if they punish or remove the effects of the cheaters,cause if not they punish only the good players ,i pay every month my vip and i cant use the ah now because of players who cheat ddo,those players will stay on the game after the fix and they will still have all the goods of the exploit so ssd punish me and all the no cheaters
also why i must pay for xp pots,slayers pots and loot pots when after a report you let exploiters untouched?
my opinion is all the vips must push ssd to take an action against them
why i must loose somehink of the game because of them or why i must pay for somethink that they take for free

To be fair, experience potions are easily obtained by players who have been playing for a long time. Also, slayer pots and loot stones are cheap in the store and a common drop from daily dice - I know some players spend their shards rolling dice and spend their store points on these items.

Not saying these people didn't dupe those pots, but I will point out that you have to consider the possibilities before taking action on someone.

[Morroiel]

To be fair, experience potions are easily obtained by players who have been playing for a long time. Also, slayer pots and loot stones are cheap in the store and a common drop from daily dice - I know some players spend their shards rolling dice and spend their store points on these items.

Not saying these people didn't dupe those pots, but I will point out that you have to consider the possibilities before taking action on someone.

1. The slayer pot is a dead giveaway. Even if you were doing serial tring, you wouldn't stack slayer pots like those screenshots indicate if they were a limited resource. Most of the time during leveling when you are in an explorers area you aren't wracking up a ton of kills, simply because you are better off focusing on a quick run to quests as they are better xp. Obvious counterpoints to this is kings forest, thunderholme, orchard, vale, and amrath.

2. The hilariously high xp pot values are also a pretty big giveaway. Most people have quite a few 50%s and 30%s just lying around due to boxes, cards, rolls, etc. It isn't uncommon for me to pop 20-30 hours of these pots in order to not have to deal with it when I'm tring. However, 700+ hours is excessive for a lot of reasons. If we naively assume that these are bought, we have to come to the conclusion that this person genuinely doesn't care about money whatsoever. The reason for this is 700+ hours would deplete their ddo points by the time they were to finish. This means that instead of buying them as they need (when the count gets down to 10 hours or something reasonable), they are just chucking a ton of money into pots preemptively, essentially committing to either do no endgame content on that toon for 700+ hours or wasting quite a bit of money. If we assume these are driven by the cards given pots, it is even less reasonable because these are a finite resource and you wouldn't want to just dump them like this. The only reasons you'd dump them like this is if you are wealthy enough to not care at all (the kind of people that drop ~1200 dollars on boxes to get racial completionist in the first month), you are a moron, or if they aren't a limited resource -> i.e. you duped them.

3. The use of treasure hunting elixir and jewel of fortune while leveling is a little weird as well, given that those items aren't worth much more (gold, asah, essences) than the normal item pulls AND random loot at those levels isn't worth farming over cannith crafting gear. I can maybe see using this for base level 28+ quests/raids but otherwise there's little point.

Now the real thing that boggles my mind is: how in the world can somebody be so stupid to stack effects like that regardless if its duped or not. On the one hand, if you are duping, drawing extra attention to yourself by doing this is flat out the behavior of either an incredibly dumb person or a person who just doesn't care anymore. On the other hand, if you have the money to drop on this (typically you'd be educated following socioeconomic trends), then you should be smart enough to realize that you can literally add to your xp pots at anytime with the click of a button at the most you should be using 40-50 hour intervals - anything above that and you are being reckless with your funds/spending.

Still ssg is in a tough spot because as far as I'm aware they don't have the backend stuff to differentiate false positives with true positives. Additionally, if they do have the backend support to do that, why the hell aren't they using it to get players items back from failed trs (mine included).

[Phil7]

Listen ringage, rose katrin, Luthxx or whatever your name is... you have been targeting 4 specific people whilst being completely ignorant of the fact that others have since YEARS been getting away with thousands of pots,mats,tokens of 12, stones in their banks. Every day there are more than 10 active players also running around with "hours" whom you either ignored/missed or your personal vendetta is making you focus only on 4 ppl. There are also more than 50+ active players with thousands of "hours" hidden inside their banks and spread out across toons and secondary accounts who play every day.

I can make you a list so long you will have to scroll down the Notepad twice in full-screen. Hey I could even start with my favourite player who has more than twice forced a game and server closure so that his tricks could be fixed. Yet you still remain pinned down to 4 specific players. Even if they fix/ban/w/e them hundreds of others will still be doing the same thing, that they've been doing since years and all of it will be "hidden" from your eyes because it is stored inside banks and toons and because one can always drink a new potion when the older potion wears off. So next time why don't you find some one who you deem suspicious and check his info, then come back after a week and tell me if his 3 hours Sov has run out. Well guess what... it won't cause he has 5000 more in his bank.

I'm just touching the surface here and this is ONLY Cannith. I don't play on other servers so I don't know, but I'm not stupid it's obvious that this is a thing in all 8 servers.

[SeveredSteel]

LMAO@ this thread

Bunch of crabs in a bucket pulling everyone down to your level. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

[Phil7]

oh I see you already met him! https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post6002926

*cough* hog *cough*

[ringage]

To be fair, experience potions are easily obtained by players who have been playing for a long time. Also, slayer pots and loot stones are cheap in the store and a common drop from daily dice - I know some players spend their shards rolling dice and spend their store points on these items.

Not saying these people didn't dupe those pots, but I will point out that you have to consider the possibilities before taking action on someone.

no,the only xp pot that you can easy obtain is the 20% xp pot giving medium eberron
those pots is 50% xp pots and is not even from the 2 years ago duping card method,that why the huge stuck ,its from a 2 months ago exploit that allowed players to reuse 1 pot huntred of times
so i will repeat my self, the only way to obtain now xp pot in game is with medium eberron,the 50% and those persons have 50% i checked this by my self is from ddo store
also if those persons want to support that they have bough those pots from ddo store the treasure hunter elixirs and the 50% xp pots then its very easy for ssg to check the order history of those persons,but trust me they did nt bought legit those pots and the ssg ignore the reports and they dont want to harm the cheaters,all of them are premium players as i know i m sure for the 4 of them and they farm ddo points even to buy the expanstions

[ringage]

Listen ringage, rose katrin, Luthxx or whatever your name is... you have been targeting 4 specific people whilst being completely ignorant of the fact that others have since YEARS been getting away with thousands of pots,mats,tokens of 12, stones in their banks. Every day there are more than 10 active players also running around with "hours" whom you either ignored/missed or your personal vendetta is making you focus only on 4 ppl. There are also more than 50+ active players with thousands of "hours" hidden inside their banks and spread out across toons and secondary accounts who play every day.

I can make you a list so long you will have to scroll down the Notepad twice in full-screen. Hey I could even start with my favourite player who has more than twice forced a game and server closure so that his tricks could be fixed. Yet you still remain pinned down to 4 specific players. Even if they fix/ban/w/e them hundreds of others will still be doing the same thing, that they've been doing since years and all of it will be "hidden" from your eyes because it is stored inside banks and toons and because one can always drink a new potion when the older potion wears off. So next time why don't you find some one who you deem suspicious and check his info, then come back after a week and tell me if his 3 hours Sov has run out. Well guess what... it won't cause he has 5000 more in his bank.

I'm just touching the surface here and this is ONLY Cannith. I don't play on other servers so I don't know, but I'm not stupid it's obvious that this is a thing in all 8 servers.

hmmm to repost the photos of the roze katrin dont means that i am roze or the other guy that you named as luthx,or as the guy on the next post named hog as i read
also i have no peronal vedeta and i dont know why you offend me ,because i agry with the roze on facebook?i dont know why you offend me and not hte cheaters
i agree with you that there is a hole list of them but i dont know them,if you now them post me the list and i repost here also to show you that i dont have a personal vendeta,also i did nt know about those persons,i just found the post on facebook and yes once i found them i say my opinion and offcourse i report them already
i have nothink to hide,so i report them,and not only me ,more 3-4people that i know already from my guild report them allready
i just posted here to show you that there is no ban on ddo and the ssg trying to fix exploits closing the shard exhange,they punish me you and everyone else with those actions but not those who are responsible for those situation
i want the ah again open cause i m trying to collect shards to purchase new airship costing 3300 shards and i cant because of them...
i want the ah again open and i dont ****ing care if they colect 1 million astral shards ,if you want to fix the issue ban those players and dont punish the rest of the players

[tralfaz81]

To be fair, experience potions are easily obtained by players who have been playing for a long time. Also, slayer pots and loot stones are cheap in the store and a common drop from daily dice - I know some players spend their shards rolling dice and spend their store points on these items.

Not saying these people didn't dupe those pots, but I will point out that you have to consider the possibilities before taking action on someone.

Exactly. I know after all my years of playing I have to have a stack of at least 6, maybe 10 minor experience pots I've won from the dailies. That's a good 20 hours of XP there and only a stone's throw away from 1000 hours of XP.

[Kza]

Ugh, how can you be sure this is cheated? They had an awesome 75%sale
On 50% pots on summersail. I had bought 2*200 dollar points on double bonus points
And bought that for the money.

I have many many hours 50% XP.

Am i stupid? Maybe.
Am i a cheater? No

[Nonesuch2008]

LMAO@ this thread

Bunch of crabs in a bucket pulling everyone down to your level. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

Hate the game?

Let's see.... Go to a public swimming pool, wherein a kid who is old enough to know better defecates into the pool, forcing it to be evacuated & closed. So as a displaced user of said pool, I should hate the hotel or park that owns it? LOL at that 'logic'. I don't dislike players, I dislike people that ruin things for others just to feed their own self-indulgent whims.

[Phil7]

no,the only xp pot that you can easy obtain is the 20% xp pot giving medium eberron
those pots is 50% xp pots and is not even from the 2 years ago duping card method,that why the huge stuck ,its from a 2 months ago exploit that allowed players to reuse 1 pot huntred of times
so i will repeat my self, the only way to obtain now xp pot in game is with medium eberron,the 50% and those persons have 50% i checked this by my self is from ddo store
also if those persons want to support that they have bough those pots from ddo store the treasure hunter elixirs and the 50% xp pots then its very easy for ssg to check the order history of those persons,but trust me they did nt bought legit those pots and the ssg ignore the reports and they dont want to harm the cheaters,all of them are premium players as i know i m sure for the 4 of them and they farm ddo points even to buy the expanstions

Well you sure know a lot about duping suddenly! Interesting...
Perhaps your entire post revolves more around envy than righteous behaviour? You know, it only takes a look around you to realize it and a missed opportunity for that. How do we know that you are not doing this, only because some players did not reveal this to you when it was doable? And now that you found out you turn your anger towards others? Is this your vision of a fair game? Punish the first handful of players you see, while others are secretly applying the same tricks thanks to their banks and then call it a day? Also as far as I know every player can buy 50% exp pots from the store, I'm not sure why you think 20% pots are only accesible to the public.

You say all 4 of your suspects are premium players, well prove it. Or is it just a quick assumption turned into a non-proven decision to post it here and therefore gather more accusations against your targets? You still haven't convinced me that it's not about vendetta. I would gladly bet you my stuff on it, because I know that one of them is a VIP. I play on Cannith too Mr. ringage and I've met a lot of players.

And just to be clear, I did not offend you. Feel free to underline any single word in my previous post that you deem offensive. I so far found none. If you were offended from the way I replied to you, well then you have to understand that every argument between people is like that. If people were to argue in a relaxed and casual manner, then it would not be an argument, it would be an employee talking to his boss and trying to avoid rudeness.

Also there is no way I'm going to post a list of names or screenshots from players in my server here. This is first against the forum rules and second I would instantly make the whole server my enemy. Player info is private and I respect all of them and don't just go out pointing fingers.
Hog is the only exception I made because he has twice blackmailed the entire community, has forced server shut-downs and is not worthy of any respect at all. If you think his Wizard was awesome when soloing r5, then you just didn't ask the proper question. "How many thousands of Spell-point potions are sitting in his inventory and bank?"

To properly find a solution to these kind of issues you need a different approach. Targeting specific players is not going to get you anywhere, will make you a lot of enemies and will only make matters worse when those players are banned and their friends also leave thanks to said friends having been banned. Instead you need to adress all servers of the game and as Ghwyn said:

I am surprised that a program has not been developed to find large stacks of rare items to flag the accounts of dupers.

Do this and you will now have hundreds of banks and alt accounts with massive amounts of dupes ready for cleaning.

[Thundergo]

Also as far as I know every player can buy 50% exp pots from the store, I'm not sure why you think 20% pots are only accesible to the public.

It should be easy for SSG to check the store history, Trobas.

[ringage]

Well you sure know a lot about duping suddenly! Interesting... Perhaps your entire post revolves more around envy than righteous behaviour? You know, it only takes a look around you to realize it and a missed opportunity for that. How do we know that you are not doing this, only because some players did not reveal this to you when it was doable? And now that you found out you turn your anger towards others? Is this your vision of a fair game? Punish the first handful of players you see, while others are secretly applying the same tricks thanks to their banks and then call it a day? Also as far as I know every player can buy 50% exp pots from the store, I'm not sure why you think 20% pots are only accesible to the public.

You say all 4 of your suspects are premium players, well prove it. Or is it just a quick assumption turned into a non-proven decision to post it here and therefore gather more accusations against your targets? You still haven't convinced me that it's not about vendetta. I would gladly bet you my stuff on it, because I know that one of them is a VIP. I play on Cannith too Mr. ringage and I've met a lot of players.

And just to be clear, I did not offend you. Feel free to underline any single word in my previous post that you deem offensive. I so far found none. If you were offended from the way I replied to you, well then you have to understand that every argument between people is like that. If people were to argue in a relaxed and casual manner, then it would not be an argument, it would be an employee talking to his boss and trying to avoid rudeness.

Also there is no way I'm going to post a list of names or screenshots from players in my server here. This is first against the forum rules and second I would instantly make the whole server my enemy. Player info is private and I respect all of them and don't just go out pointing fingers.
Hog is the only exception I made because he has twice blackmailed the entire community, has forced server shut-downs and is not worthy of any respect at all. If you think his Wizard was awesome when soloing r5, then you just didn't ask the proper question. "How many thousands of Spell-point potions are sitting in his inventory and bank?"

To properly find a solution to these kind of issues you need a different approach. Targeting specific players is not going to get you anywhere, will make you a lot of enemies and will only make matters worse when those players are banned and their friends also leave thanks to said friends having been banned. Instead you need to adress all servers of the game and as Ghwyn said:



Do this and you will now have hundreds of banks and alt accounts with massive amounts of dupes ready for cleaning.

Well I have to prove nothing to you
I read on the Facebook that those players is premium and not vip but guess what,I don't know even if they are vip,this is not make them heroes,still they are cheater's and still I want a solution for this like roze and like everyone else what respect he's self respect the game and the others
I m targeting those cause those is for sure exploiters for me after I showed those pictures
To defend the cheater's as you do means they are friends of you or guildys ,you are one of then or at least you have the same mind as they have,
Here is the official ddo forum if you want to defend the cheater's better Post to the unofficial ones,on this forum there is more legit player's that pay every month, don't tell me ooo i have payed thousands of dollars so I can cheat,no you can't,good for you if you have payed more than me but this is not give you the permission to cheat and destroy my playing experience,I m also customer you know and a legit one
As for the other comment that someone spend 2000 dollars it's for laugh only cause those players spend zero,and I know that,cause there is no reason to drink all those pots at once,also here we have 2000 hours xp pots,means 667 pots,667 pots x300 on th discount is 200.100 ddo points only for the XP pots,the major ones the treasure hunters the jewels of Fortune ones goes the number close to 1.000.000 ddo points,also all of they toons have similar hours of pots)) so make this number x3 or more,I know that cause I had my eyes open for 4days after I ve read on fb the situation
And ending this I don't care if you disagree with me and with the lows of the game
The nominal is simple,cheater's have no place on the game or at least delete the effects
Ssg destroy my gaming experience, making me open the ddo stores on browser, disabling the ah, disabling the monster manual and more things on the past
No I will not defend those players who cares only for they're self's,I will report them
You can give me whatever you like as a name,roze, Luthex or whatever you like,I don't care
If the other players are happy with those situation then don't report,I m not,we was so close to take our ship and we can't because expoliters,I want the ah open and a Justice action

[ringage]

It should be easy for SSG to check the store history, Trobas.

Hah,so Phil is trobas;;;that gives a meaning to all this,I want to wish you a good ban but seams will not happen cause ssg gives priority to punish all the others but not the cheater's,
Please ssg ban those person's so more will be afraid on the future to cheat,I want back the ddo that I loved