ASAH missing

[beta1]

I can't find the Astral Shard Auction House today for some reason. It is missing from both the menu and the AH NPCs.

Edit, just logged in again and I saw the message.

[Annex]

It was closed earlier today as per this announcement: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...ge#post6007993

[Cantor]

So, I assume there is an exploit involved to take it down like this.

[LT218]

So, I assume there is an exploit involved to take it down like this.

Of course there is.

When SSG learns of players losing years worth of gear, significant amounts of $$ worth of TP-purchased stuff, time invested, etc., they offer no help. They even leave the bugged TR system live. Worse yet, from the lack of responses from SSG employees about the TR issue here on the forums, zero ***** are given.

When SSG learns of an exploit that allows players to dupe rare gear, shards, plat, etc., they're like "OMFG stop the presses and shut that *** down like yesterday!!!" It'd be hilarious how fast SSG would disable the TR system if players were getting gear, shards, etc. duped when they TR'd.

[chippy]

Of course there is. That's how it works.

SSG finds an exploit that allows players to dupe rare gear, shards, plat, etc. and OMFG stop the presses and shut that *** down like yesterday!!!

Multiple players lose years worth of gear and significant amounts of $$ worth of TP-purchased tomes, etc. and get no help, the TR system is still live, and from the lack of responses to it from SSG employees here on the forums, zero ***** are given.

+1 I know from experience.

[brian14]

Of course there is.

When SSG learns of players losing years worth of gear, significant amounts of $$ worth of TP-purchased stuff, time invested, etc., they offer no help. They even leave the bugged TR system live. Worse yet, from the lack of responses from SSG employees about the TR issue here on the forums, zero ***** are given.

When SSG learns of an exploit that allows players to dupe rare gear, shards, plat, etc., they're like "OMFG stop the presses and shut that *** down like yesterday!!!" It'd be hilarious how fast SSG would disable the TR system if players were getting gear, shards, etc. duped when they TR'd.

In all fairness, I once got an unearned past life via TR, and reported it. AFAIK, nothing happened. (And yes, the toon in question still has that PL.)

[SerPounce]

Of course there is.

When SSG learns of players losing years worth of gear, significant amounts of $$ worth of TP-purchased stuff, time invested, etc., they offer no help. They even leave the bugged TR system live. Worse yet, from the lack of responses from SSG employees about the TR issue here on the forums, zero ***** are given.

When SSG learns of an exploit that allows players to dupe rare gear, shards, plat, etc., they're like "OMFG stop the presses and shut that *** down like yesterday!!!" It'd be hilarious how fast SSG would disable the TR system if players were getting gear, shards, etc. duped when they TR'd.

SSG is evil because they fix exploits?

I feel for the people who have lost stuff in TR, it's a big issue, but these exploits are a big problem also. These people destroyed the game economy a few years back. It's still just recovering.

If there's an exploit I'm very much glad they closed it. F* the cheaters.

[Hutoth]

F* the cheaters.

1000 x this

[KomradKillMachine]

SSG is evil because they fix exploits?

I feel for the people who have lost stuff in TR, it's a big issue, but these exploits are a big problem also. These people destroyed the game economy a few years back. It's still just recovering.

If there's an exploit I'm very much glad they closed it. F* the cheaters.

The economy was destroyed by all the BtA gear including BtA crafting mats...
All the relevant sh*t which you can't trade...

[SerPounce]

The economy was destroyed by all the BtA gear including BtA crafting mats...
All the relevant sh*t which you can't trade...

Yeah, and all that stuff is BtA as a security measure against cheaters.

[SeveredSteel]

Yeah, and all that stuff is BtA as a security measure against cheaters.

Whatever helps you sleep at night. I mean, btc was around since beginning. but, ok, sure,..

[Cantor]

Whatever helps you sleep at night. I mean, btc was around since beginning. but, ok, sure,..

You don't think LGS mats would be unbound if not for the duping? You don't think TF was ruined on release do to duping? You don't think Leg Bypasses are a response to duping? I agree, F the cheaters. They ruined trading.

[SeveredSteel]

You don't think LGS mats would be unbound if not for the duping? You don't think TF was ruined on release do to duping? You don't think Leg Bypasses are a response to duping? I agree, F the cheaters. They ruined trading.

You don't think Tokens of the 12 would be unbound if not for duping? You don't think heroic gs shards were ruined by dupers? You don't think commendations would be unbound if not for dupers? You don't think shards from s/s/s system would be bound if not for dupers? You don't think raid loot would be bound if not for dupers? This was fun. Come back anytime.

[Cantor]

You don't think Tokens of the 12 would be unbound if not for duping? You don't think heroic gs shards were ruined by dupers? You don't think commendations would be unbound if not for dupers? You don't think shards from s/s/s system would be bound if not for dupers? You don't think raid loot would be bound if not for dupers? This was fun. Come back anytime.

Almost everything you mentioned was pre dupe-fest, BTC when the comment was about BTA, and raid loot / old epic (and S/S/S was relaxed some). I can support raid loot being BTC, raids are special. Shroud shards a re a great way to make a minimal BTC investment and tradable ingrs.

I don't like that all new loot is bound, but it is way too easy to get and that's part of the problem imo. If it was tradable it would be auto buy at AH. GH was really good, but EE isn't hard anymore, no reason for tiered loot. Wondrous items had a good run after shadowfell, cc killed the short lived random gen life we had after random loot pass. We need something tradable. Not every loss of trading options is do to duping but a lot of it is, to argue otherwise is ingenuine.

[Six_Gun]

If this is related to duping, SSG missed that train wreck by a few years.

If this is something new, then hopefully they can get it sorted out fairly quickly, if not, they should let people trade in Shards for SSG points.

[Wizza]

You don't think LGS mats would be unbound if not for the duping? You don't think TF was ruined on release do to duping? You don't think Leg Bypasses are a response to duping? I agree, F the cheaters. They ruined trading.

Almost everything you mentioned was pre dupe-fest, BTC when the comment was about BTA, and raid loot / old epic (and S/S/S was relaxed some). I can support raid loot being BTC, raids are special. Shroud shards a re a great way to make a minimal BTC investment and tradable ingrs.

I don't like that all new loot is bound, but it is way too easy to get and that's part of the problem imo. If it was tradable it would be auto buy at AH. GH was really good, but EE isn't hard anymore, no reason for tiered loot. Wondrous items had a good run after shadowfell, cc killed the short lived random gen life we had after random loot pass. We need something tradable. Not every loss of trading options is do to duping but a lot of it is, to argue otherwise is ingenuine.

You have missed the sarcasm. Stuff is bound because "reasons", not because of dupers.

Turbine killed unbound long time ago, destroying the whole economy of the game. This is most likely the only game in the world where trading is so much discouraged, but at the same time the Devs keep insisting that they want you to trade (collectables, lolz).

[Hobgoblin]

F the cheaters?

i feel for that i really do

the idea is fine

but the execution is not

sinking ship games suffers from the same problem that turbine did - namely an uneven response to cheaters. I watched certain guilds sit for hours at the necro 4 gaining levels. nothing happened to the toons or guilds

i see people running around with 100's of hours of xp pots. they are still here.

yet the dupe goes on, card dupe, etc etc went on for months.

either fix the code or get draconian with punishments so it doesnt happen

(fixing the code is a much better and healthier option imo)

[Cantor]

either fix the code or get draconian with punishments so it doesnt happen

(fixing the code is a much better and healthier option imo)

Totally agree. The lack of response, both in timely response to fix and to punish is why it became so extreme. But: no one has to cheat, that is a choice every time.

F the cheaters = get draconian with punishments... maybe I missed the tone of your response.

[Hobgoblin]

Totally agree. The lack of response, both in timely response to fix and to punish is why it became so extreme. But: no one has to cheat, that is a choice every time.

F the cheaters = get draconian with punishments... maybe I missed the tone of your response.

basically how i feel about it is -

first fix the issue so people cant do it.
second - determine what was duped and remove those items

move on.

but ........ what i see happening is one of two things - either ssg says f it and says its ok or they go full bastich and ok you are suspected of cheating. permaban. and you talked about an exploit - permaban and you you over in the corner - you made a joke about a devs beard - triple permaban for you!

[SeveredSteel]

Almost everything you mentioned was pre dupe-fest, BTC when the comment was about BTA, and raid loot / old epic (and S/S/S was relaxed some). I can support raid loot being BTC, raids are special. Shroud shards a re a great way to make a minimal BTC investment and tradable ingrs.

Glad you think dupe-fest invented duping. Because, surely no one was before that. /s

btc vs bta argument is irrelevant. They're all bound, so....

No loot should be bound at all. Including raid loot. You want a trade feature then lobby for that. Everything else is largely worthless anyway, or invalidated an update or three later. If duping was such a concern they would have also bound cannith crafting mats and slavers base mats. Those are free for you to trade until you're blue in the face, but no one will buy them. Mythic+reaper loot would be worth a ****, but that isn't going to happen as long as they keep making loot bound. They never had the foresight to make loot unbound. Btcoe was done away with due to bank space limitations. Legendary timers are not bound either, but they're useless because there is no endgame. Tomes remain as trade items, but no one is buying. Also, what are you going to do with shards anyhow? Feat respec and chest rerolls? Lol. Platinum is more valuable for reaper resource drains like scrolls and ap resets.