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    Default Reaper xp you get in a full life

    so... this was my 1st life doing reaper on my main and i decided to do something... not very smart lol

    i wanted to know what's the reaper xp you get in a life if you stick to:
    - Doing every quest
    - At base lvl (no penalty, ofc)
    - R2, cause i think it's easy to keep it
    - with 20% xp pot, cause you get it from collectables and... well, i think it's easy to keep
    - no trap bonus, cause i wasn't being trapper this life, was not gonna use one and... well, not many times people joined my lfm (which were up most the time i played by the way)

    the amount doing "every quest under lvl 20 on r2 at lvl with 20% pot on" is 165k xp, i know, it's not efficient, it's just the amount you set in your graphic comparing reaper xp between skulls and overlvl, and know where it hits, also at lvl 15 it was 102k

    you know, i like using the 6h pot when it's almost out or once it's out before completing quest because... well, i always can do something without caring about the xp pot ticking, so it was not always on, i know i've completed under 10 quests w/o pot

    also... i play in thelanis, it's a graveyard, i mean... nobody joined the quest lfm's... do you want me to wait for a raid to fill? i tried with von and adq but... well, didn't happen

    also i wanted to do always R2 but sometimes you know there's some easy xp and wanted to check it... so did TS, all GH and vale on r3, the difference of xp is amazing (got more xp on vale on r3 than in wgu on r2 for example, 1,4k in coal vs... 900 or so in wgu)

    that little extra xp from these quests i did on r3 and the weekend with extra reaper xp (i didn't play too much, in fact i'm not as active as before lol) helped to compensate the quests/raids i haven't done:
    - smuggler's warehouse, stop hazadill's shipment and retrieve the stolen goods, i just did too many quests at lvl 2, i was annoyed at that point that i couldn't grab 3, but did the 1st part on r10, so that compensates too a bit
    - kobold assault and gladewatch outpost defense, i mean, i won't waste my time in these quests, ever, too long for that lvl, specially with xp pot ticking lol
    - devil assault, sorry, skipped it, however i doubt i can complete it, til few lvls later didn't get used to cone warlock (btw the warlock nerf got me at lvl 4, so... playing warlock after long ago, cone which i don't like too much and no reaper xp, won't help in there XD)
    - von 5&6, adq2, titan raid and preraid, raver's fate, litany & abbot (i mean, i like my sigils too much like wasting them on that experiment XD), stealer of souls, shroud, HoX and VoD, MA & LoB, ToD and DD, i know... DD is not a raid, but it's lvl 20 XD

    so i skipped 22 quests/raids and another 10 i haven't the 20% xp pot active, i think it's compensated by the few r3 i ran and the few quests i ran during the 20% extra reaper xp weekend

    now it's time to look at that 4428 favor, check the favor rewards or turn in sagas, yes, got lots to turn in, and... there's no point since i'm already 20 lol guess will take tomes for PEDs

    i guess next try could be something like "what's the reaper xp you get while running r2 quests at lvl, checking only the heroic xp you need to lvl w/o banking xp?" cause i've been 30% the time hard capped, 30% or more w/o doubt lol

    i will prolly do that as trapper, to check the difference between ignoring xp cap with 20% pot or caring about xp cap and trapping

    notice that did all lvl 19 quests being hardcapped for example, or at lvl 16 i did vale the last ones, so when i ran em i was hard capped, if they removed the xp bank/cap would be nice to see the total xp you could get running every heroic quest on reaper at lvl

    PS: the toughest quest i faced was ETK cause in end fight we had 2 living meteor swarm light bearer and 1 firestorm skyborn, lovely indeed
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    I tried an R3 Kobold Assault... and, yeah, don't. Extremely tedious, and then when near the end I got a TWELVE Reaper spawn to flip the middle finger at my effort.

    I also found the Warlock nerf only would really be felt at r1/2 where you could still 1-2 shot everything. It was a struggle trying to use Blast until level 4, but at that level you get web from TS. Just cast it every 6 seconds and kite everything into it investing into your Conjuration. Your Cone shape can hit more targets for more damage than chain can (though chain has it's place for scattered/farther targets or bouncing corners on a CCed melee to tag ranged mobs), and when you have things held in a nice little bundle by web or Evards, you can go to town. Quests with scattered ranged targets (especially up on ledges) that I couldn't just bundle up on my webs were the only real dangers beyond an unlucky reaper spam spawn. You don't need god-like damage when nothing can touch you due to kiting and CC. I went through 1-20 on r3/4 without too much struggle.

    That said, interesting numbers. I have not been getting that much on my lives, but I also haven't been doing any capped runs just for RXP. I also haven't fallen into the trap of min/max grinding the easy RXP quests - I always hated doing that, and every life I do something different to try to keep it more interesting. Different chains, and a lot of my old Heroic/Epic PLs I just cranked up some music and did some mindless slayer/rares in open zones (I remember a 1-20 with zero quests project waaaaaaaaaaaaay back in the day). I'll try to remember to mark my Reaper XP to see how much my "inefficient" leveling nets me over a 1-20 life.

    As for the PUG scene, it's been mixed for me. I've had days where not a single person clicks my groups, to days like today where I was able to fill a party completely in only a couple of minutes on every quest chain I did. I wouldn't call Thelanis dead at all, but after they get done with Ravenloft I do wish they would take a serious look at numbers and the technical issues they have on a Server merge. At that point we'll be past the Summer Slump that is typical for MMOs and under the influx of a new expansion - if the populations are not good then, they'll likely never be and is a serious flag for a merge.

    That said, feel free to hit an LFM of mine when you see it and are in range. Or maybe we can even talk about a static. Even if it means it takes me longer to do a 1-20 run, I'd much rather run with someone that I can chat and become friends with than run solo.
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    The most efficient way to do this is to balance getting to level 20 efficiently and earning the most rxp. Running 6 hour 50% xp pots, it takes less than 24 hours to run to level 20 per life, which for me translates to between 3 and 5 days depending on which day of the week I TR and how the weekend falls in that interval. I keep my playtime somewhat casual, only 3 or 4 hours per night during the week, and more of course on the weekends and have no problems racking up huge rxp. Skip Korthos and immediately get to level 2 using daily roll stones that you saved from your previous life. Do all quests at level for full rxp. At level 2 start running R2. Bump it up to R3 when you get to level 4 and have the Reaper tree available. Bump it up to R4 when you can use heal scrolls, or unlock the next tier in the Reaper tree. Bump it up to R5 when you hit Gianthold at level 13. Adjust downwards as you progress (if you're losing noticeable amounts of time per quest), or upwards as desired (shorter quests with big rxp payouts), but keep it at R4 or R5 at least til you cap at level 20.

    Done correctly, you should have at least 150K rxp in an average of 4 days (20-24 hours of game time). Even though you'll get more rxp per life doing all the quests as the OP described, by starting the wheel over again you will earn more rxp over time because you're earning more efficiently.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LawfulGood View Post
    The most efficient way to do this is to balance getting to level 20 efficiently and earning the most rxp. Running 6 hour 50% xp pots, it takes less than 24 hours to run to level 20 per life, which for me translates to between 3 and 5 days depending on which day of the week I TR and how the weekend falls in that interval. I keep my playtime somewhat casual, only 3 or 4 hours per night during the week, and more of course on the weekends and have no problems racking up huge rxp. Skip Korthos and immediately get to level 2 using daily roll stones that you saved from your previous life. Do all quests at level for full rxp. At level 2 start running R2. Bump it up to R3 when you get to level 4 and have the Reaper tree available. Bump it up to R4 when you can use heal scrolls, or unlock the next tier in the Reaper tree. Bump it up to R5 when you hit Gianthold at level 13. Adjust downwards as you progress (if you're losing noticeable amounts of time per quest), or upwards as desired (shorter quests with big rxp payouts), but keep it at R4 or R5 at least til you cap at level 20.

    Done correctly, you should have at least 150K rxp in an average of 4 days (20-24 hours of game time). Even though you'll get more rxp per life doing all the quests as the OP described, by starting the wheel over again you will earn more rxp over time because you're earning more efficiently.
    Do you have a guide you follow for your fast level 20 run? I just returned to the game, and am not that fast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aselrik View Post
    Do you have a guide you follow for your fast level 20 run? I just returned to the game, and am not that fast.
    A full quest list and a link to videos for those quests can be found here: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...=1#post6018358
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    Quote Originally Posted by psykopeta View Post
    so... this was my 1st life doing reaper on my main and i decided to do something... not very smart lol

    i wanted to know what's the reaper xp you get in a life if you stick to:
    - Doing every quest
    - At base lvl (no penalty, ofc)
    - R2, cause i think it's easy to keep it
    - with 20% xp pot, cause you get it from collectables and... well, i think it's easy to keep
    - no trap bonus, cause i wasn't being trapper this life, was not gonna use one and... well, not many times people joined my lfm (which were up most the time i played by the way)

    the amount doing "every quest under lvl 20 on r2 at lvl with 20% pot on" is 165k xp, i know, it's not efficient, it's just the amount you set in your graphic comparing reaper xp between skulls and overlvl, and know where it hits, also at lvl 15 it was 102k

    you know, i like using the 6h pot when it's almost out or once it's out before completing quest because... well, i always can do something without caring about the xp pot ticking, so it was not always on, i know i've completed under 10 quests w/o pot

    also... i play in thelanis, it's a graveyard, i mean... nobody joined the quest lfm's... do you want me to wait for a raid to fill? i tried with von and adq but... well, didn't happen

    also i wanted to do always R2 but sometimes you know there's some easy xp and wanted to check it... so did TS, all GH and vale on r3, the difference of xp is amazing (got more xp on vale on r3 than in wgu on r2 for example, 1,4k in coal vs... 900 or so in wgu)

    that little extra xp from these quests i did on r3 and the weekend with extra reaper xp (i didn't play too much, in fact i'm not as active as before lol) helped to compensate the quests/raids i haven't done:
    - smuggler's warehouse, stop hazadill's shipment and retrieve the stolen goods, i just did too many quests at lvl 2, i was annoyed at that point that i couldn't grab 3, but did the 1st part on r10, so that compensates too a bit
    - kobold assault and gladewatch outpost defense, i mean, i won't waste my time in these quests, ever, too long for that lvl, specially with xp pot ticking lol
    - devil assault, sorry, skipped it, however i doubt i can complete it, til few lvls later didn't get used to cone warlock (btw the warlock nerf got me at lvl 4, so... playing warlock after long ago, cone which i don't like too much and no reaper xp, won't help in there XD)
    - von 5&6, adq2, titan raid and preraid, raver's fate, litany & abbot (i mean, i like my sigils too much like wasting them on that experiment XD), stealer of souls, shroud, HoX and VoD, MA & LoB, ToD and DD, i know... DD is not a raid, but it's lvl 20 XD

    so i skipped 22 quests/raids and another 10 i haven't the 20% xp pot active, i think it's compensated by the few r3 i ran and the few quests i ran during the 20% extra reaper xp weekend

    now it's time to look at that 4428 favor, check the favor rewards or turn in sagas, yes, got lots to turn in, and... there's no point since i'm already 20 lol guess will take tomes for PEDs

    i guess next try could be something like "what's the reaper xp you get while running r2 quests at lvl, checking only the heroic xp you need to lvl w/o banking xp?" cause i've been 30% the time hard capped, 30% or more w/o doubt lol

    i will prolly do that as trapper, to check the difference between ignoring xp cap with 20% pot or caring about xp cap and trapping

    notice that did all lvl 19 quests being hardcapped for example, or at lvl 16 i did vale the last ones, so when i ran em i was hard capped, if they removed the xp bank/cap would be nice to see the total xp you could get running every heroic quest on reaper at lvl

    PS: the toughest quest i faced was ETK cause in end fight we had 2 living meteor swarm light bearer and 1 firestorm skyborn, lovely indeed
    Wait, come back to what you said about a 20% xp pot. You can't get those from collectables. Can you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TimtheGreat89 View Post
    Wait, come back to what you said about a 20% xp pot. You can't get those from collectables. Can you?
    You can. There's a vendor in House D who will take 3 Medium Eberron Shards for a Major Experience Elixir.

    Per DDO WIki:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drwaz99 View Post
    You can. There's a vendor in House D who will take 3 Medium Eberron Shards for a Major Experience Elixir.

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    No kidding! To think I've constantly spent TP for just a single 10% Elixir.

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    For those who don't want to reincarnate to build up rxp, running quests on a capped character is nowhere near as far behind as it used to be. It's still not as efficient as running heroics, but since the change it doesn't feel like we're totally wasting our time anymore.

    I did a couple of sessions recently that netted 40k+ rxp. That was doing a round of most of the legendary quests at around 5 skulls with VIP, ship and voice xp buffs. With a first time bonus and a good xp potion, it would be a lot more.

    On the downside, it's a fairly small selection of quests and you need a strong group with cc, instakills and ranged damage to get through them at a decent pace. Some of them go much more easily with a tank and dedicated healer, but most of them can be done without.

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    Medium Eberron Dragonshards are rare. Wiki lists it as a 1% chance. I have trouble believing you can get them regularly enough to keep the pot running constantly. I'm lucky if I pull 1 per life and they are expensive on the AH if someone does post them. I'm not aware of any alternative ways to get Medium Eberrons other than from collectable nodes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blerkington View Post
    For those who don't want to reincarnate to build up rxp, running quests on a capped character is nowhere near as far behind as it used to be. It's still not as efficient as running heroics, but since the change it doesn't feel like we're totally wasting our time anymore.

    I did a couple of sessions recently that netted 40k+ rxp. That was doing a round of most of the legendary quests at around 5 skulls with VIP, ship and voice xp buffs. With a first time bonus and a good xp potion, it would be a lot more.

    On the downside, it's a fairly small selection of quests and you need a strong group with cc, instakills and ranged damage to get through them at a decent pace. Some of them go much more easily with a tank and dedicated healer, but most of them can be done without.

    Thanks.
    Well, the grass is always greener I guess... just did the same, and a couple of sessions joining endgame groups for 40k+ rxp each time at cap is worth about as much as a couple of months of fairly slowly solo'ing or duo'ing R3ish quests to cap. For me, reaper xp at cap now is a literal order of magnitude better than reaper xp leveling.

    But... playing high skulls at cap I find pretty intensely boring - follow a roaming pack of warlocks around as they CC and instakill 90% of everything, kill a few helpless deathblocked champions/reapers, then perch in the conveniently provided safe spot to autoattack the boss for 5-10 minutes. Thrilling gameplay it is not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TimtheGreat89 View Post
    No kidding! To think I've constantly spent TP for just a single 10% Elixir.
    however the medium shards are hard to find and i believe they are totally rare, you can't farm.
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    Next life im also doing an all reaper life. I suggest if you are planning to do true reincarnations then don't do every quest, but if your going to 5k favour then why not? xD

    Personally, with the past i get a minimum of 120k a life whilst making sure i do not cap and do them at base level. Therefore the extra few thousand is not worth waiting for at cap.
    I'm finishing my heroics now, therefore getting them done quick is important xD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by psykopeta View Post
    i guess next try could be something like "what's the reaper xp you get while running r2 quests at lvl, checking only the heroic xp you need to lvl w/o banking xp?" cause i've been 30% the time hard capped, 30% or more w/o doubt lol

    i will prolly do that as trapper, to check the difference between ignoring xp cap with 20% pot or caring about xp cap and trapping
    so... the amount of rxp you get running r2, at level, w/o banking heroic xp nor heroic/reaper pot nor event (yup, lucky me XD) with the trapper bonus is... 75k!! i'm sitting atm at the amazing 243085 rxp

    yup, i know, such a crappy rxp, just for the sake of testing! doing several weird things atm (not playing DDO is one of them) so it took a bit to finish the test lol

    next time will be... how much rxp you get running r2, at level as an iconic (so all the way to 30, w/o repeating quests on heroic/reaper just for the 1st time sexyness, ill save them for epic indeed), w/o banking xp as a trapper
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