Back from leave on U17, need advice on monkcher

[orbbital]

The character was built on U17 with 12monk 6ranger 2arti. I am willing to take +20 wood to rework it for doing something in current meta.

In this build I want to use monk and 10kstar for bow.
The focus might not be heavy damage, but instead on procs. So I would aim the following (ordered on importance):
10kstar
Manyshot
Improved Precise Shot
Max wisdom

And would like you to double check which part i can improve the build. Would it without good dps be too gimp?
You may assume i have all epic destinies max out since i farmed rusted blade when there was no ransack system. I only missed divine crusader but guess it is not difficult to level up.

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Level 30 Lawful Good Half-Elf Male
(20 Monk \ 10 Epic) 
Hit Points: 390
Spell Points: 268 
BAB: 15\15\20\25\25
Fortitude: 22
Reflex: 17
Will: 21

                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
(36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 30)
Strength              8                     9
Dexterity            16                    21
Constitution         16                    16
Intelligence          8                    11
Wisdom               18                    29
Charisma              8                     8

Tomes Used
+5 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1 \par +3 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1 \par 
                  Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                 Base Skills         Modified Skills
Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 30)
Balance               4                    38
Bluff                 0                     9
Concentration         4                    39
Diplomacy             0                    14
Disable Device        n/a                  n/a
Haggle                0                     9
Heal                  0                    23
Hide                  0                    15
Intimidate            0                    11
Jump                  0                     9
Listen                0                    19
Move Silently         0                    15
Open Lock             n/a                  n/a
Perform               n/a                   n/a
Repair                0                    10
Search                0                    10
Spellcraft            0                    10
Spot                  0                    28
Swim                  0                     9
Tumble                n/a                  16
Use Magic Device      2                    20

Level 1 (Monk)
Feat: (Half-Elf Dilettante) Half-Elf Dilettante: Ranger
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
Feat: (Selected) Point Blank Shot
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Stunning Fist


Level 2 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Zen Archery


Level 3 (Monk)
Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Harmonious Balance: Fists of Light
Feat: (Selected) Precise Shot


Level 6 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Rapid Shot
Feat: (Monk Bonus) Ten Thousand Stars


Level 9 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Manyshot


Level 12 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Ranged Weapons


Level 15 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Improved Precise Shot


Level 18 (Monk)
Feat: (Selected) Past Life: Soldier of the Faith



Level 21 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Combat Archery


Level 24 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Embolden Spell


Level 26 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Arcane Sphere: Epic Spell Power: Force


Level 27 (Epic)
Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical


Level 28 (Epic)
Feat: (Epic Destiny) Primal Sphere: Doubleshot


Level 30 (Epic)
Feat: (Legendary) Scion of Arborea
Enhancement: Half Elf - Half-Elven Versatile Nature (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half Elf - Human Adaptability: Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half Elf - Human Greater Adaptability: Constitution (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half Elf - Elven Accuracy (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half Elf - Improved Dilettante (Ranger) (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half Elf - Improved Dilettante (Ranger) (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half Elf - Dilettante: Strength (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half Elf - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Half Elf - Improved Dilettante (Ranger) (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Arcane Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Morphic Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Metalline Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Aligned Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Shadow Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Mystical Archer (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Conjure Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Energy of the Wild (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Shock Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Force Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Force Arrows (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Force Arrows (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Elemental Damage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Terror Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Elemental Damage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Banishing Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Paralyzing  Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Smiting Arrows (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Elemental Damage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Wisdom (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Moonbow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Arrow of Slaying (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Final Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Elemental Damage (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Arcane Archer (Elf) - Runebow (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Bastion of Purity (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Deft Strikes (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Exemplar (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Exemplar (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Smite Tainted Creature (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 2)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Conditioning (Rank 3)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Jade Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Dismissing Strike (Rank 1)
Enhancement: Shintao (Mnk) - Wisdom (Rank 1)

If it is possible to bring in some dps please let me know. I'm totally unfamiliar with the current game system, heard there are enhancement for dex dmg roll, wis dmg roll... and im not sure where to get them.

[Gargoyle69]

First off, welcome back to the game ! :-)

Next, you might need to help us out with a little bit more detail on what it is you're trying to accomplish here.

Are you wanting to be a full time archer, or are you planning on mixing it up with ranged and melee ? Is that why you've got things in there like Stunning Fist, Deft Strikes and Smite Tainted Creature ?

IMHO you don't really have enough feats or AP's invested in the melee side of things to get a very satisfactory result. If you wanted to be able to switch between the two like that, I'd probably suggest keeping the 6 ranger levels you already have. At least that way you'll have some of the TWF feats. To be honest, unless you're really committed to the idea of a hybrid ranged / melee build, I'd recommend doing one or the other. Doing either you can do very well, but I honestly think you'll be disappointed by the performance of a hybrid.

Then, let's talk about some of the trees you'll want to invest AP's into.

Ninja Spy: As a wis/dex build you'll want to pick up the first 2 cores (L1 & L3) in Ninja Spy to give you Dex to hit and damage with any centered weapons (damage with bows and both attack and damage with wraps if you want to do some melee). If you're planning on spending any amount of time in melee, and you're already putting 6 points here, consider putting 5 more points in for the 3rd core (L6) as the at-will invis and 25% incorp is very handy, and you can pick up some Sneak Attack dice and/or Dodge while you do it. If you're not going to melee, just pick up the first 2 cores (6 pts).

Henshin Mystic: If you're planning on doing any melee, 1 pt here is the cheapest 10 Melee Power you'll ever get (Melee Power and Ranged Power are the new physical analogues of spellpower, and boost your damage output just the same way). In fact, if you're going to do that, I'd strongly recommend putting 11 pts here, and getting 30 MP, and Contemplation for the passive ki regen. You need +2 passive ki regen to be able to use TTS on cd, and you get 1 from running in Ocean Stance from L12 onwards, so you need another. The main two ways of getting that is either Contemplation here, or twisting in Enlightenment from Tier 1 GMoF, so your call as to which you do. If you're going to be pure archer, go with Enlightenment and skip Henshin.

Shintao: If you are going to put any points in Shintao at all, then pick up Iron Skin. It was changed in the monk pass to no longer require Mountain Stance, and is the easiest 20 PRR for you to get as a pure monk. I also wouldn't bother picking up any of the extra strikes in Shintao. Dismissing Strike you already have a ranged version in Banishing Arrows, and I just don't think you'll get much benefit from Smite Tainted Creature.

Lastly, for ED's, the generally accepted wisdom is either Legendary Dreadnought for sustained damage or Fury of the Wild for burst damage (this was revised by devs recently to be declared now WAI for ranged builds). My personal preference is Fury, and you may hear the term "Furyshot" which means to activate Manyshot and Unbridled Fury at the same time (preferably also with a damage Action Boost too) for amazing bursts of damage into the many thousands.

As a general rule, for soley ranged monkchers, 14 monk / 6 ranger, pure 20 monk, and 6 monk / 6 ranger / 8 fighter are all very strong combos. I'd be happy to post you a build of any or all of these if you like.

Let us know which way you're looking to go and we can help you further.

[YUTANG75]

Ninja Spy: As a wis/dex build you'll want to pick up the first 2 cores (L1 & L3) in Ninja Spy to give you Dex to hit and damage with any centered weapons (damage with bows and both attack and damage with wraps if you want to do some melee). If you're planning on spending any amount of time in melee, and you're already putting 6 points here, consider putting 5 more points in for the 3rd core (L6) as the at-will invis and 25% incorp is very handy, and you can pick up some Sneak Attack dice and/or Dodge while you do it. If you're not going to melee, just pick up the first 2 cores (6 pts).

Just a quick note here as I found this out yesterday and it helped me out a bunch. If you're only investing in Ninja Spy for the dex to hit & damage and are already investing in the Ranger Deepwood stalker tree then get the first core of Ninja spy and improved weapon finesse from deepwood stalker.
Improved weapon finesse doesn't require the weapon finesse feat and gives you dex to damage on any weapon you get dex to hit to.
I did this on my build and it freed up 5AP which were very useful elsewhere.

[Gargoyle69]

Just a quick note here as I found this out yesterday and it helped me out a bunch. If you're only investing in Ninja Spy for the dex to hit & damage and are already investing in the Ranger Deepwood stalker tree then get the first core of Ninja spy and improved weapon finesse from deepwood stalker.
Improved weapon finesse doesn't require the weapon finesse feat and gives you dex to damage on any weapon you get dex to hit to.
I did this on my build and it freed up 5AP which were very useful elsewhere.

Yes which works if he keeps the ranger levels but his posted build is pure monk which means no access to DWS tree. He's getting Arcane Archer from Half-Elf.

[orbbital]

First off, welcome back to the game ! :-)

Next, you might need to help us out with a little bit more detail on what it is you're trying to accomplish here.

Are you wanting to be a full time archer, or are you planning on mixing it up with ranged and melee ? Is that why you've got things in there like Stunning Fist, Deft Strikes and Smite Tainted Creature ?

IMHO you don't really have enough feats or AP's invested in the melee side of things to get a very satisfactory result. If you wanted to be able to switch between the two like that, I'd probably suggest keeping the 6 ranger levels you already have. At least that way you'll have some of the TWF feats. To be honest, unless you're really committed to the idea of a hybrid ranged / melee build, I'd recommend doing one or the other. Doing either you can do very well, but I honestly think you'll be disappointed by the performance of a hybrid.

Then, let's talk about some of the trees you'll want to invest AP's into.

Ninja Spy: As a wis/dex build you'll want to pick up the first 2 cores (L1 & L3) in Ninja Spy to give you Dex to hit and damage with any centered weapons (damage with bows and both attack and damage with wraps if you want to do some melee). If you're planning on spending any amount of time in melee, and you're already putting 6 points here, consider putting 5 more points in for the 3rd core (L6) as the at-will invis and 25% incorp is very handy, and you can pick up some Sneak Attack dice and/or Dodge while you do it. If you're not going to melee, just pick up the first 2 cores (6 pts).

Henshin Mystic: If you're planning on doing any melee, 1 pt here is the cheapest 10 Melee Power you'll ever get (Melee Power and Ranged Power are the new physical analogues of spellpower, and boost your damage output just the same way). In fact, if you're going to do that, I'd strongly recommend putting 11 pts here, and getting 30 MP, and Contemplation for the passive ki regen. You need +2 passive ki regen to be able to use TTS on cd, and you get 1 from running in Ocean Stance from L12 onwards, so you need another. The main two ways of getting that is either Contemplation here, or twisting in Enlightenment from Tier 1 GMoF, so your call as to which you do. If you're going to be pure archer, go with Enlightenment and skip Henshin.

Shintao: If you are going to put any points in Shintao at all, then pick up Iron Skin. It was changed in the monk pass to no longer require Mountain Stance, and is the easiest 20 PRR for you to get as a pure monk. I also wouldn't bother picking up any of the extra strikes in Shintao. Dismissing Strike you already have a ranged version in Banishing Arrows, and I just don't think you'll get much benefit from Smite Tainted Creature.

Lastly, for ED's, the generally accepted wisdom is either Legendary Dreadnought for sustained damage or Fury of the Wild for burst damage (this was revised by devs recently to be declared now WAI for ranged builds). My personal preference is Fury, and you may hear the term "Furyshot" which means to activate Manyshot and Unbridled Fury at the same time (preferably also with a damage Action Boost too) for amazing bursts of damage into the many thousands.

As a general rule, for soley ranged monkchers, 14 monk / 6 ranger, pure 20 monk, and 6 monk / 6 ranger / 8 fighter are all very strong combos. I'd be happy to post you a build of any or all of these if you like.

Let us know which way you're looking to go and we can help you further.

Thanks for the lot of information.

The only reason i picked some melee feat and enhancement is because i think it could do something with maximized wisdom as if a DC caster does. I'm ok with both pure bow / hybrid if it works well, my current 12mnk/6rgr/2arti took GTWF and IPS and is as u said not quite well in doing both.

The reason of attempting monk20 is because i think it should boost a lot on 10kstar.