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    Community Member thalliwell's Avatar
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    Default Centered SDK Wraith build with Quarterstaves

    Hey folks,

    Looking for some advice on the build for my wizard past life. I want to do my first qstaff build (have acquired many over the years) and preferably iconic.
    Here's what I came up with, it is probably not ideal by any means. Feats are tight, am willing to go dex based instead of int if that seems better, am open to suggestions.

    5 rogue for TA, 3 monk for low hanging henshin MP, 12 wiz for wraith of course. I'd prefer to get wraith fairly early but no need to get it right at 15.

    I will be playing it in epics but am totally open to epics feat suggestions. Thanks for any help you can provide!


    And yeah, as I didn't fit in GTHF, starting ability scores can probably be adjusted.

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    Level 20 Lawful Neutral Shadar-Kai Male
    (3 Monk \ 5 Rogue \ 12 Wizard) 
    Hit Points: 264
    Spell Points: 838 
    BAB: 11\11\16\21
    Fortitude: 11
    Reflex: 20
    Will: 15
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 20)
    Strength             14                    17
    Dexterity            14                    17
    Constitution         12                    16
    Intelligence         18                    29
    Wisdom               14                    17
    Charisma              6                    11
    
    Tomes Used
    +3 Tome of Strength used at level 1 \par +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1 \par +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1 \par +5 Tome of Charisma used at level 1 \par 
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 20)
    Balance               4                    23
    Bluff                 4                     4
    Concentration         2                    28
    Diplomacy             0                     0
    Disable Device        5                    33
    Haggle                0                     0
    Heal                  2                    14
    Hide                  0                     3
    Intimidate            0                     0
    Jump                  4                    13
    Listen                0                     6
    Move Silently         0                     3
    Open Lock             4                    15
    Perform               n/a                   n/a
    Repair                1                    10
    Search                5                    36
    Spellcraft            2                    23
    Spot                  4                    10
    Swim                  0                     3
    Tumble                4                    23
    Use Magic Device      5                    24
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Past Life) Iconic Past Life: Bladeforged
    Feat: (Past Life) Iconic Past Life: Purple Dragon Knight
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Druid
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
    Feat: (Selected) Power Attack
    
    
    Level 2 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Toughness
    
    
    Level 3 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Cleave
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell
    
    
    Level 4 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 5 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 6 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Adept of Forms
    
    
    Level 7 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 8 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Mental Toughness
    
    
    Level 9 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 10 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 11 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 12 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Dark Reaping (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Zombie (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Vampire (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy II (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 13 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Extend Spell
    
    
    Level 14 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms
    
    
    Level 16 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 17 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
    
    
    Level 18 (Monk)
    Feat: (Selected) Grandmaster of Forms
    Feat: (Monk Path) Path of Inevitable Dominion: Fists of Darkness
    
    
    Level 19 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Control (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Fast Movement (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Quick Strike (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Quick Strike (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Quick Strike (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Haste Boost (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Improved Glancing Blows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Sweeping Strikes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Sweeping Strikes (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Sweeping Strikes (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Lunge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Lunge (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Lunge (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Specialization (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Spinning Staff Wall (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Vault (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Riddle of Fire (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Ki Bolt (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Henshin Staff Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Way of the Patient Tortoise (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Wraith (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Agent of Good (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Traveler's Toughness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Strategic Combat I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Awareness (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Awareness (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Awareness (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Know The Angles (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Know The Angles (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Know The Angles (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Strategic Combat II (Rank 1)

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    Good build overall, may I suggest you having a look at this too:
    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...r-First-Lifers

    It uses the same principles, but sticks to general THF weapons like Falchion/Maul/Gaxe.

    Your build might be better dps-wise for a qstaff user, because of the +15% atk speed from TA.
    You do lose some damage from Kensei tho and some PRR from Stalwart Defender. Not sure which one is better, just leaving a heads-up here for you.

    Min/Maxing on past life builds or random requests is not really my thing, unless it is a build I have already played and know the answer to.
    That's something that unbongwah usually likes to do, so if you are lucky he might reply here.

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    Community Member thalliwell's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phil7 View Post
    Good build overall, may I suggest you having a look at this too:
    https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...r-First-Lifers

    It uses the same principles, but sticks to general THF weapons like Falchion/Maul/Gaxe.

    Your build might be better dps-wise for a qstaff user, because of the +15% atk speed from TA.
    You do lose some damage from Kensei tho and some PRR from Stalwart Defender. Not sure which one is better, just leaving a heads-up here for you.

    Min/Maxing on past life builds or random requests is not really my thing, unless it is a build I have already played and know the answer to.
    That's something that unbongwah usually likes to do, so if you are lucky he might reply here.
    Thanks for the response! That build is actually what led to this build occuring, I've just been accumulating so many quarterstaves and wanted to give that weapon a go (Elemental Bloom, Unending Light, Breeze, Sireth, Epic Unending, probably others I'm forgetting). But yes, I know that quarterstaff is not particularly ideal. I am hoping that the attack speed and whatnot will help even that out.

    Definitely hoping Ubongwah pops in here .

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    Bit of an update. Got rid of power attack and cleave, fit in improved crit: bludgeon and precision. Probably better given the low BAB. Still need to figure out epics, both feats-wise and best destiny. Any advice that way would be much appreciated.




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    Level 30 Lawful Neutral Shadar-Kai Male
    (3 Monk \ 5 Rogue \ 12 Wizard \ 10 Epic) 
    Hit Points: 402
    Spell Points: 1264 
    BAB: 11\11\16\21
    Fortitude: 12
    Reflex: 25
    Will: 15
    
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
    Abilities        Base Stats          Modified Stats
    (36 Point)       (Level 1)             (Level 30)
    Strength             10                    15
    Dexterity            16                    19
    Constitution         14                    18
    Intelligence         18                    30
    Wisdom               14                    17
    Charisma              6                    11
    
    Tomes Used
    +5 Tome of Strength used at level 1 \par +3 Tome of Dexterity used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Constitution used at level 1 \par +4 Tome of Intelligence used at level 1 \par +3 Tome of Wisdom used at level 1 \par +5 Tome of Charisma used at level 1 \par 
                      Starting          Feat/Enhancement
                     Base Skills         Modified Skills
    Skills           (Level 1)            (Level 30)
    Balance               4                    33
    Bluff                 4                    14
    Concentration         2                    39
    Diplomacy             0                    10
    Disable Device        5                    44
    Haggle                4                    14
    Heal                  2                    24
    Hide                  0                    14
    Intimidate            0                    10
    Jump                  4                    19
    Listen                0                    13
    Move Silently         0                    14
    Open Lock             4                    31
    Perform               n/a                  n/a
    Repair                1                    21
    Search                5                    44
    Spellcraft            0                    20
    Spot                  4                    17
    Swim                  0                    12
    Tumble                4                    40
    Use Magic Device      5                    34
    
    Level 1 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Past Life) Epic Past Life - Arcane Sphere: Enchant Weapon
    Feat: (Past Life) Epic Past Life - Divine Sphere: Brace
    Feat: (Past Life) Epic Past Life - Martial Sphere: Doublestrike
    Feat: (Past Life) Epic Past Life - Primal Sphere: Colors of the Queen
    Feat: (Past Life) Iconic Past Life: Bladeforged
    Feat: (Past Life) Iconic Past Life: Purple Dragon Knight
    Feat: (Selected) Insightful Reflexes
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Artificer
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Bard
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Cleric
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Druid
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Fighter
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Monk
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Paladin
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Rogue
    Feat: (Past Life) Past Life: Sorcerer
    
    
    Level 2 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Dodge
    
    
    Level 3 (Monk)
    Feat: (Monk Bonus) Precision
    Feat: (Selected) Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning Weapons
    
    
    Level 4 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Quicken Spell
    
    
    Level 5 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 6 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Adept of Forms
    
    
    Level 7 (Rogue)
    
    
    Level 8 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 9 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Extend Spell
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Mental Toughness
    
    
    Level 10 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 11 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 12 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Master of Forms
    
    
    Level 13 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 14 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 15 (Rogue)
    Feat: (Selected) Improved Critical: Bludgeoning Weapons
    
    
    Level 16 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Wizard Bonus) Improved Mental Toughness
    
    
    Level 17 (Wizard)
    
    
    Level 18 (Wizard)
    Feat: (Selected) Grandmaster of Forms
    
    
    Level 19 (Monk)
    
    
    Level 20 (Rogue)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Dark Reaping (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Zombie (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Vampire (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Shroud of the Wraith (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Necrotic Touch (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Deathless Vigor (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Spell Critical: Negative Energy I (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Negative Energy Conduit (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Bone Armor (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Pale Master (Wiz) - Intelligence (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Harper Agent - Agent of Good (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Control (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Thief Acrobatics (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Quick Strike (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Quick Strike (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Quick Strike (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Improved Glancing Blows (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Improved Glancing Blows (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Improved Glancing Blows (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Shadow Dodge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Shadow Dodge (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Shadow Dodge (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Sweeping Strikes (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Sweeping Strikes (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Sweeping Strikes (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Lunge (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Lunge (Rank 2)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Lunge (Rank 3)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Acrobat Staff Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Staff Specialization (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Spinning Staff Wall (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Thief Acrobat (Rog) - Vault (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Riddle of Fire (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Ki Bolt (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Henshin Staff Training (Rank 1)
    Enhancement: Henshin Mystic (Mnk) - Way of the Patient Tortoise (Rank 1)
    
    
    Level 21 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Overwhelming Critical
    
    
    Level 22 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 23 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 24 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Mental Toughness
    
    
    Level 25 (Epic)
    
    
    Level 26 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Primal Sphere: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
    
    
    Level 27 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Reflexes
    
    
    Level 28 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Primal Sphere: Perfect Two Weapon Fighting
    
    
    Level 29 (Epic)
    Feat: (Epic Destiny) Martial Sphere: Dire Charge
    
    
    Level 30 (Epic)
    Feat: (Selected) Epic: Epic Damage Reduction
    Feat: (Legendary) Scion of the Astral Plane
    Last edited by thalliwell; 07-17-2017 at 10:20 PM.

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