Fix Fear Reapers

[Wizza]

Can we please fix them so that they won't aggro anymore from behind closed doors, gates, end of the dungeon, or other unreachable places?

It's about time. Did 2 quests, both of them a mess because of a single fear reaper aggroed behind a wall and a gate.

If you can't fix them for whatever reason, then delete them from the game.

I will bump this thread until this gets fixed, in a way or another.

[Morroiel]

Proposed Fix: @X stack numbers, fear reapers teleport onto aggroed player. Increase damage per stack as compensation.

/Signed about them needing to fix them

[Satyriasys]

Reaper mode is meant to be difficult. If you find it too challenging there are several other difficulty levels to choose from.

[Morroiel]

Reaper mode is meant to be difficult. If you find it too challenging there are several other difficulty levels to choose from.

Obviously you aren't understanding the problem: the issue isn't fear reapers by themselves. Its that they can get stuck in areas inaccessible to player characters. This causes stacks to build up wiping the party and making the quest incomplete-able.

[Sam-u-r-eye]

I'm fine with it. I'd rather have the ... one reaper that is anti-ranged, not nerfed.
If you stand in their aura the dots go away.
So the Fear fix is kinda silly if they teleport to you. Right????

[Wizza]

I'm fine with it. I'd rather have the ... one reaper that is anti-ranged, not nerfed.
If you stand in their aura the dots go away.
So the Fear fix is kinda silly if they teleport to you. Right????

Fear Reapers barely teleport.

Please tell me how to get in melee range when they spawn behind a wall that has a door only open-able from the other side, or when they are stuck underground, or when they are inside a cage that I cannot open, ty.

[Morroiel]

I'm fine with it. I'd rather have the ... one reaper that is anti-ranged, not nerfed.
If you stand in their aura the dots go away.
So the Fear fix is kinda silly if they teleport to you. Right????

Yeah I agree. It is just frustrating. It doesn't happen all that often but it sucks when it does happen.

I don't know how to fix it. I'm going to keep brainstorming - will probably post something later.

[zehnvhex]

Reaper mode is meant to be difficult. If you find it too challenging there are several other difficulty levels to choose from.

I agree. Game mechanics you can do nothing about that punish you are absolutely fun and we should fully embrace it.

They should make make it so that when you get to about ~75% of the way through the zone the dungeon master yells, "Spot check....ranger!" And if you don't have a ranger in your group your party wipes and is ejected from the zone. About 10% of the time it just does it no matter what classes you have!

That'd be so much fun and add such a balanced element of danger!

[Avocado]

Reaper isnt meant to be fair. Devs said it, not me. Deal with it.

[Wizza]

Reaper isnt meant to be fair. Devs said it, not me. Deal with it.

Lets not use this lame excuse to not fix bugs and broken mechanics.

[Rys]

Reaper isnt meant to be fair. Devs said it, not me. Deal with it.

That's silly. What he said is really just an excuse not to touch reaper anymore. It needs fixing on so many levels but they just ignore it. Noone cares about how reaper 10 is because the majority of the players is grinding R1-R4 in heroics where the things like fear reapers and death timers don't matter.

Fear reapers don't work well with certain quests (and it is not a few). They totally overlooked how the mechanics will interact with closed doors, closed pits, closed gates, walls and their new very very broken aggro. And the reply is, reaper isn't meant to be fair. There are ways how to go around all this broken ****, but it is not fun. It's frustrating and makes you think they just leave it there so people buy cakes. So what you do, is wipe the whole party, run a bit ahead and use jibber and pray so it doesn't aggro again with his awesomesauce tremor sense. Fun lol. So much challenge it makes me wanna facepalm.

Dear devs, be honest next time at least. Because it is pretty obvious this is not what you planned and it happened by accident.

[Eryhn]

Reaper mode is meant to be difficult. If you find it too challenging there are several other difficulty levels to choose from.

blah. blah.


know that part on the ship in illusionary larcaner where for some reason, sometimes, the archers at the end of the hallways on the way up to the ship captain suddenly turn around, face the wall and shoot at it?* I guess this counts as "aggro" because it spawned a fear reaper that could not be seen. the complete bar was cleared. the complete streets were cleared, every single mob. it wasnt even a reaper stuck in wall in the streets that started stacking earlier cause i checked before goin to ship.

as soon as I finished talking to the ship captain, those archers suddenly shoot the wall and there is a fear stack building with no reaper in sight. tried to reach end regardless, died 2 mobs before endfight with 32 stacks, had to reset, 30 mins wasted. ressources wasted, patience wasted.

this is not difficulty. this is braindead.

* the reason btw most likely is unreflected new map design interacting with unreflected new global aggro. unreflected when it comes to interacting...

[Dragavon]

blah. blah.


know that part on the ship in illusionary larcaner where for some reason, sometimes, the archers at the end of the hallways on the way up to the ship captain suddenly turn around, face the wall and shoot at it?* I guess this counts as "aggro" because it spawned a fear reaper that could not be seen. the complete bar was cleared. the complete streets were cleared, every single mob. it wasnt even a reaper stuck in wall in the streets that started stacking earlier cause i checked before goin to ship.

as soon as I finished talking to the ship captain, those archers suddenly shoot the wall and there is a fear stack building with no reaper in sight. tried to reach end regardless, died 2 mobs before endfight with 32 stacks, had to reset, 30 mins wasted. ressources wasted, patience wasted.

this is not difficulty. this is braindead.

* the reason btw most likely is unreflected new map design interacting with unreflected new global aggro. unreflected when it comes to interacting...

While I agree with you in principle, then the point is SSG wanted to close Memoirs for reaper due to this problem. We, the players, asked them to let reaper difficulty remain on Memoirs, so we need to accept the few times when we get problems there.

[Rys]

While I agree with you in principle, then the point is SSG wanted to close Memoirs for reaper due to this problem. We, the players, asked them to let reaper difficulty remain on Memoirs, so we need to accept the few times when we get problems there.

In that case we can close Memoires, Tracker's, Lesson, Thrill, ToEE and many others I didn't catch. I am still thinking that admitting there is a problem would be a better approach than the one they have taken.

[Rys]

And while at it fix the reapplying death timer when you rebound from the soulstone after the original timer is up.

[Dendrix]

Can we please fix them so that they won't aggro anymore from behind closed doors, gates, end of the dungeon, or other unreachable places?

If it's acceptable for mobs to damage players when players cannot damage mobs the inverse of that statement must be true. That's only fair.

[Wizza]

If it's acceptable for mobs to damage players when players cannot damage mobs the inverse of that statement must be true. That's only fair.

What is more acceptable is to fix bugs without resorting to lame excuses. And by bugs I mean both kinds.

[Enoach]

If it's acceptable for mobs to damage players when players cannot damage mobs the inverse of that statement must be true. That's only fair.

Final Fight in Thrill of the Hunt. Using abilities like Fireball that do explosive damage you can clear the cages before you activate the boss.

I would agree that the best solution to through Door/Wall agro is if the player can't reasonably reach them they should not be activated.

[Wizza]

Final Fight in Thrill of the Hunt. Using abilities like Fireball that do explosive damage you can clear the cages before you activate the boss.

I would agree that the best solution to through Door/Wall agro is if the player can't reasonably reach them they should not be activated.

I couldn't reach it with AoE spells, since it was standing far back in the cage.