Anyone tried the game with no gear whatsoever?

[Greyhawk6]

And no Monk?

I mean for a laugh and a challenge...play with no gear at all from level 1 (unless needed to complete a quest - like on the starter quest you need to pick up a weapon to progress the quest...quest items and so on), no pots, no scrolls, wands, equipment items or even spell components? OK maybe thieves tools as you deffo cant do without them! Cosmetic items that have no powers are ok because they don't do anything!

If you try it, what build would you go for?

No complaints about game mechanics and all that schmoozle...just for a bit of fun.

Think I'd go for a halfling Rogue Druid. A because its weird and B because you can heal yourself with a dragonmark and use Flame Blade or animal form to kick stuff to death!

[Qhualor]

Not for a long time, but ideas like this is what led to Reaper.

[Drecas]

There was a nude run thread a year ago: https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...0-build-advice
Though Saekee ended up taking monk levels. I say go dragonmarked halfling warlock. Easy win.

[unbongwah]

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...0-build-advice

If weapons and monk are out, then you're pretty much stuck with casters. But if you can't equip Spellpower gear either, your DPS output is more limited. So I was thinking Deep Gnome wizard similar to slarden's: two PK SLAs and undead forms; instakill what you can, save your SPs for bosses.

[SpartanKiller13]

I think Saekee did a 1-20 run, but IIRC did use Monk. The post that I think it's on won't open for me right now or I'd link it.

I would probably do a Sorcerer if I can't use Monk, because Savant SLA's will take you a lot farther than non-monk unarmed. Worth dipping at least 1 level into divine for self-healing, unless you go Halfling/Warforged.

Or Warlock, if you want a fairly easy one.

Race probably Dragonborn, for +30 spellpower/Wings/Dragon Breath is a bit too strong to pass up, given that Darkfire was nerfed AFAIK. Also no SP cost to use which helps a ton.
Otherwise Halfling/Warforged, for self-heals from DMark or Repair respectively.

I'm tempted to try this now, at least until like lvl 8 or 15 or something.

[SpartanKiller13]

https://www.ddo.com/forums/showthrea...0-build-advice

If weapons and monk are out, then you're pretty much stuck with casters. But if you can't equip Spellpower gear either, your DPS output is more limited. So I was thinking Deep Gnome wizard similar to slarden's: two PK SLAs and undead forms; instakill what you can, save your SPs for bosses.

I considered SLA builds, but can you hit DCs without gear?
Also I wasn't factoring in Iconics, because I assumed 1-20, but if you're going for epic good luck!

[Enoach]

Don't underestimate the power of a bard. Many low level quests don't actually require you to kill everything and if you can leave it behind fascinated so much the better.

[scipiojedi]

I think Saekee did a 1-20 run, but IIRC did use Monk. The post that I think it's on won't open for me right now or I'd link it.

I would probably do a Sorcerer if I can't use Monk, because Savant SLA's will take you a lot farther than non-monk unarmed. Worth dipping at least 1 level into divine for self-healing, unless you go Halfling/Warforged.

Or Warlock, if you want a fairly easy one.

Race probably Dragonborn, for +30 spellpower/Wings/Dragon Breath is a bit too strong to pass up, given that Darkfire was nerfed AFAIK. Also no SP cost to use which helps a ton.
Otherwise Halfling/Warforged, for self-heals from DMark or Repair respectively.

I'm tempted to try this now, at least until like lvl 8 or 15 or something.

I'm down for a naked leveling group

[unbongwah]

I considered SLA builds, but can you hit DCs without gear?

Beats me, but OP didn't list "must be Elite / Reaper viable," so I'm presuming that gives us some wiggle room here.

Also I wasn't factoring in Iconics, because I assumed 1-20, but if you're going for epic good luck!

Nothing forces you to level an Iconic before playing. You don't get your free gear until lvl 15, but that's obviously not an issue for a build which eschews all gear entirely.

However, wizard is more backloaded than other caster classes, IMO, so it might not be the best choice for 1-20 nekkid runner. Not unless you don't mind kiting endlessly using just Magic Missile SLA for the first few levels!

[Livmo]

And no Monk?

I mean for a laugh and a challenge...play with no gear at all from level 1 (unless needed to complete a quest - like on the starter quest you need to pick up a weapon to progress the quest...quest items and so on), no pots, no scrolls, wands, equipment items or even spell components? OK maybe thieves tools as you deffo cant do without them! Cosmetic items that have no powers are ok because they don't do anything!

If you try it, what build would you go for?

No complaints about game mechanics and all that schmoozle...just for a bit of fun.

Think I'd go for a halfling Rogue Druid. A because its weird and B because you can heal yourself with a dragonmark and use Flame Blade or animal form to kick stuff to death!

Lord of Blades and did not die.

Only my shooter and what I could cast + heal and rez scrolls. Raised party 3x.

Pure Human 3rd life arty.

If you can do a naked LoB, then you have arrived : ) )

Naked raids for the win!

EDIT ~ Naked arty dog did not do so well.

[doubledge]

Let's see what we have to work with here.

1: We have no weapons, so ranged builds are entirely out.
2: We have no armor, so no stalwart stance.
3: We have a d4 weapon that doesn't get better. Bonuses to [W] are not important.
4: Haste boost is necessary.
5: No spellpower gear, You're stuck with what you have.


With all honesty, the best build you can throw together without monk is probably some sort of unholy Barbarian/Warlock/Fighter with enough points in enlightened spirit for the shining through, and then beating things to death with your fists via barbarian rage, aura, and haste boost. You'd need to rely upon the ravager, frenzied berserker, and enlightened spirit trees to add base damage.

I'd probably recommend 12/6/2 barb/warlock/fighter. (Or potentially 11/7/2, for dimension door)

Without warlock cheese, you've still got other options:

Barb 12/Ranger 6/FVS or Cleric 2:

Still grants the barbarian bonuses, plus ranger offhand strikes and tempest buffs, plus FVS divine might.
This particular build also is able to get wall of steel (VIA warpriest), and exposing strike (Vulnerability from warpriest, which is mandatory due to low damage)


In this particular case, I'd say t5 ravager for blood strength, and only enough points in tempest for storm dancer II.


:Edit: In this case, the ideal race is actually half-elf, warforged or halfling:
half-elf for dilettante: warlock to help with low damages early,
Warforged for memoirs of the last war (+15 melee power helps when all of your damage comes from %Melee Power procs
Halfling for self-healing

:Second Edit:
If monk is out, then so is druid. A naked wolf druid is entirely viable, and doesn't need to putz around to increase their dps.

[Livmo]

Let's see what we have to work with here.

1: We have no weapons, so ranged builds are entirely out.
2: We have no armor, so no stalwart stance.
3: We have a d4 weapon that doesn't get better. Bonuses to [W] are not important.
4: Haste boost is necessary.
5: No spellpower gear, You're stuck with what you have.


With all honesty, the best build you can throw together without monk is probably some sort of unholy Barbarian/Warlock/Fighter with enough points in enlightened spirit for the shining through, and then beating things to death with your fists via barbarian rage, aura, and haste boost. You'd need to rely upon the ravager, frenzied berserker, and enlightened spirit trees to add base damage.

I'd probably recommend 12/6/2 barb/warlock/fighter. (Or potentially 11/7/2, for dimension door)

Without warlock cheese, you've still got other options:

Barb 12/Ranger 6/FVS or Cleric 2:

Still grants the barbarian bonuses, plus ranger offhand strikes and tempest buffs, plus FVS divine might.
This particular build also is able to get wall of steel (VIA warpriest), and exposing strike (Vulnerability from warpriest, which is mandatory due to low damage)


In this particular case, I'd say t5 ravager for blood strength, and only enough points in tempest for storm dancer II.


:Edit: In this case, the ideal race is actually half-elf, warforged or halfling:
half-elf for dilettante: warlock to help with low damages early,
Warforged for memoirs of the last war (+15 melee power helps when all of your damage comes from %Melee Power procs
Halfling for self-healing

:Second Edit:
If monk is out, then so is druid. A naked wolf druid is entirely viable, and doesn't need to putz around to increase their dps.

What about full on Conan the Barbarian?

Pure Barbarian and can only pick up a weapon to wield that they find after battle/chest?

[Duana]

Naked runs have been a staple in the game for a long time.

Naked TS and SC was a weekly thing for a long while back in the day.

Often, with a couple guildies we would start a quest chain (Catacombs, Deleras, Daroot, Sorrowsdusk, etc.) off naked, equipping only what we found in chests. At the end of the chain the gear was sold and we started all over again.

[SpartanKiller13]

Let's see what we have to work with here.

1: We have no weapons, so ranged builds are entirely out.
2: We have no armor, so no stalwart stance.
3: We have a d4 weapon that doesn't get better. Bonuses to [W] are not important.
4: Haste boost is necessary.
5: No spellpower gear, You're stuck with what you have.

2) You don't need armor to get +25 PRR/MRR from Stalwart stance, I'm using it on my centered monk right now. You just can't get the +6 Str/Con or +20% hp

With all honesty, the best build you can throw together without monk is probably some sort of unholy Barbarian/Warlock/Fighter with enough points in enlightened spirit for the shining through, and then beating things to death with your fists via barbarian rage, aura, and haste boost. You'd need to rely upon the ravager, frenzied berserker, and enlightened spirit trees to add base damage.

I'd probably recommend 12/6/2 barb/warlock/fighter. (Or potentially 11/7/2, for dimension door)

:Edit: In this case, the ideal race is actually half-elf, warforged or halfling:
half-elf for dilettante: warlock to help with low damages early,
Warforged for memoirs of the last war (+15 melee power helps when all of your damage comes from Melee Power)
Halfling for self-healing

You don't really need Fighter 2. You have enough feats to melee (TWFx3, ICrit, PA/Cleave/GC) just from leveling, Fighter 1 will get you access to Haste boost. Allows for 12/7/1 for DDoor. Although if you want Max/Empower/Eschew you'll have to work a little more.

Unless you plan on running epics, your build only matters through lvl 18 or so, which mostly invalidates barbarian between 6 and 12. You might be better off taking more warlock for better aura damage and spellcasting.

I think you'd have a really rough time trying to melee unarmed without monk/druid. Even if you mostly bluff pull people, that's not always an option.

HElf Dilly:Warlock is 1d4 non-scaling, definitely not worth it IMO.
Good point about Warforged, I forget about that pass. Rather limited on your self-healing, but if you're a Warlock that won't present much of an issue.

Personally I'd run an Auralock, probably with a Barbarian 2 dip for Sprint Boost and Blood Tribute.

[doubledge]

What about full on Conan the Barbarian?

Pure Barbarian and can only pick up a weapon to wield that they find after battle/chest?

If you're able to gear up with whatever equipment you can find, yes, that could work. I still wouldn't go full barbarian, since barbarian is sorta gear dependent to not suck.

Either way, you'd need either levels of ranger, or an ungodly high dex: you're going to find single-handed weapons a lot more than a good two-hander, plus you're still going to be unarmed for a majority of the quests (chests could drop plate armor, or ranged weaponry, neither of which you can effectively use)

Also need to take into consideration that the ML of loot you'll pick up will be sorta schitzophrenic: level 2 quests on elite are dropping level 5-8 gear for me. Unless you're running at-level elites, or just normals, gear will always be higher level than you.

[moomooprincess]

I remember a naked shroud run where they just used Holy Clubs from Delera's.

[unbongwah]

I remember a naked shroud run where they just used Holy Clubs from Delera's.

lol now I want to see a naked Chrono run using just the flametouched weapons you can buy in the tavern

[Saekee]

yes, I did a nude run -- see Songs from the Slums in my sig.

Remember issues like fortification, spellpower, no spell components...

It is a slog, easy in lower levels, tough later

[Saekee]

just to add--without pale master or warforged, you will have poor or no fortification.
I did monk and altered my build in later levels to boost it to 5 monk levels. The wiz levels were for self-buffing but you would be surprised at how many mobs can cast dispel later in heroics (forget OoB in sands...)

I did not do WF because I did not like playing them.

You could probably go pure druid wf and do ok

[doubledge]

just to add--without pale master or warforged, you will have poor or no fortification.
I did monk and altered my build in later levels to boost it to 5 monk levels. The wiz levels were for self-buffing but you would be surprised at how many mobs can cast dispel later in heroics (forget OoB in sands...)

I did not do WF because I did not like playing them.

You could probably go pure druid wf and do ok

A decent build to go full naked would probably be some sort of druid/monk multiclass. Maybe druid 12/monk 8. That'd give you evasion, and extra attack speed from wolf.