account share epic past life

[Avantasian]

Shards and 20th reward list are not BTA. Before guild ships, you had to bring the character you wanted to upgrade your GS gear in Shroud or could go to the 1 altar in Amrath. Players had alts for different situations back then.

So what? Alts exploded when shroud came, just because the primary reward was account wide. Do you honestly disagree with that?

[EllisDee37]

Bravery bonus needs to be standardized to the same XP-range as reaper or else you're going to cause confusion.

I've decided that it is. There's no detailed list of bonuses and penalties to reaper xp in the xp report, so it really just comes down to how you choose to look at it. I find this way to be much more palatable.

[Qhualor]

So what? Alts exploded when shroud came, just because the primary reward was account wide. Do you honestly disagree with that?

So it makes a big difference. Back then Shroud wasn't the only raid being run. Many players had alts for different things. GS was considered end game and leveling twink gear.

Hound was common for tank, bard for puppies, healers for group and puppies, dps.

VOD for healers, hagers, dps, WF tank, trapper.

VON 6 for healers, bard for fascinate, dps, hagers.

TOD for healers, light monk, fleshy and WF tank, dps, shadow kiter if they couldn't stand there.

Chronoscope for healers, DC casters, tank, dps.

I think you get the point.

[Enoach]

So what? Alts exploded when shroud came, just because the primary reward was account wide. Do you honestly disagree with that?

There is a bit of a timeline issue. Shroud became available when the max level of a character was 16/18. This was prior to Reincarnation. I agree the ingredients outside of the Power Shards and Cleansers being bound to account did give those that had multiple characters more incentive to run on their alternate character because the group needed a "healing type", "roguish type" or even more dps.

However, it was the addition of TR and Level 20 that made Green Steel even more valuable as it was available to a character at level 11 and 12, which was available before some of the Raid items for that were regularly run.

So it makes a big difference. Back then Shroud wasn't the only raid being run. Many players had alts for different things. GS was considered end game and leveling twink gear.

Hound was common for tank, bard for puppies, healers for group and puppies, dps.

VOD for healers, hagers, dps, WF tank, trapper.

VON 6 for healers, bard for fascinate, dps, hagers.

TOD for healers, light monk, fleshy and WF tank, dps, shadow kiter if they couldn't stand there.

Chronoscope for healers, DC casters, tank, dps.

I think you get the point.

You are correct most people had multiple characters during this time for these raids, this is because most at this time already had multiple characters.

[Dalsheel]

Hm, spit on all those people who grinded ePLs for their alts? Sounds... bad?

[Chai]

Making it less time consuming to obtain in game removes the potential for monetization of grind mitigating mechanics. People defended the gas price trap of TR XP so staunchly that it wont surprise me when reaper XP pots, reaper XP tomes, and Reaper XP boxes, or similar items, get added to the store.

[nokowi]

Making it less time consuming to obtain in game removes the potential for monetization of grind mitigating mechanics. People defended the gas price trap of TR XP so staunchly that it wont surprise me when reaper XP pots, reaper XP tomes, and Reaper XP boxes, or similar items, get added to the store.

You have the direct quotes in this thread that players want to spend money to play many alts, combined with the mistaken idea that reaper will prevent them from doing this.

Instead of buying tomes for all, they can buy their way through reaper rewards.

Those that want to play their way through content without spending money can do so as always.

[nokowi]

No lifers have alts. Other good players don't.

Pretty much everyone on these forums can't make an argument about others not having a life.

Of course you believe the way you play is correct and the way others choose to play is wrong. It's typical of the forums.

I know quite a few great players than maintain many alts. Great players destroy everybody else with only 90% character power - because they know how to play and build a toon.

I know many on the forums that claim things are impossible that are routinely done.

Almost any post on the forums that begins with "xyz" is impossible has a 99% chance of being wrong.

Yours included.

Those that can't go on with life without having every reward on 12 toons in a video game may need to spend some time to think about who really needs a life. Be careful with your accusations about others.

[slarden]

No lifers have alts. Other good players don't.

If someone thinks it's not possible to have a life and also have multiple alts it explains why they are incapable of playing alts without the devs making it easier for them.

[Sam-u-r-eye]

If someone thinks it's not possible to have a life and also have multiple alts it explains why they are incapable of playing alts without the devs making it easier for them.

So you think you have a life.
What would you say your play time is per week on average?

I think the issue here isn't the truth of my statement, but the fact that you are defining "no lifer" as someone who spends a lot more time than you personally play.

I would define "no lifer" as someone who plays one day on the weekend (~6-10hrs) and an average of 12 hours during the week. Anything more than that and you're no-lifing it.

[Gremmlynn]

why did you have to taint your pony story with strippers.

What's tainted about strippers? Those I've known are very decent people.

[Niminae]

I know many will say no.
But I still would like to share bonuses account wise.
So I can play my alt and have some bonuses, not that I have to farm all the same again.
Now come post this is a Baaad idea.

This is a Baaad idea.

You can already equip your alt with bta/boe/unbound items your main farmed up and make running through heroics on the new character a breeze. Why would you want to make the game even less challenging?

[Astoroth]

I know many will say no.
But I still would like to share bonuses account wise.

Yep, should also make an epic past life, cost 6m exp to match an epic destiny sphere regardless of actual level.

As someone with one character that has everything (but racial pasts) what do you do now?

Make an alt? no, it would be just like playing your main.

Sit at cap? not everyone likes to just grind gear.

You don't need everything on every character. That is what makes them different.

Why not make an alt, one character can't be all builds. Your build is what would make them different. No one has the time to develop more than 1 character as it's become, these things need to be made account wide.

[Gremmlynn]

+1 This.

Would be great for DDO to have people that play multiple toons, at both endgame as at TR/ER levels.
The Devs destroyed this. The game lost players once again, and by 'forcing' many players to play 1 toon, you could say the population is even lower right now as people are not filling several spots at several levels.

The only players who are being "forced" to do anything are those more worried about some imaginary score than they are playing the game.

[Niminae]

So you think you have a life.
What would you say your play time is per week on average?

I think the issue here isn't the truth of my statement, but the fact that you are defining "no lifer" as someone who spends a lot more time than you personally play.

I would define "no lifer" as someone who plays one day on the weekend (~6-10hrs) and an average of 12 hours during the week. Anything more than that and you're no-lifing it.

To paraphrase the great George Carlin: Anyone who plays less than me is a casual. Anyone who plays more than me has no life.

[Gremmlynn]

3. The gap between an old player and a new player is massive.

Sure, given roughly equal intelligence, but it has a lot less to do with the characters they are playing than who's playing it. If they were to swap characters that gap really wouldn't narrow all that much.

About the only way to really narrow that gap is to dumb the game down to the point where there really isn't anything for the new player to learn that the old player already knows.

[Gremmlynn]

Bravery bonus needs to be standardized to the same XP-range as reaper or else you're going to cause confusion.

I've always felt this way. Bravery should always have been based on base quest level or been named something else, like "run two levels later on elite bonus". As there is nothing very brave about running at-level quests, even if they generally are the tougher at-level quests.

[slarden]

So you think you have a life.
What would you say your play time is per week on average?

I think the issue here isn't the truth of my statement, but the fact that you are defining "no lifer" as someone who spends a lot more time than you personally play.

I would define "no lifer" as someone who plays one day on the weekend (~6-10hrs) and an average of 12 hours during the week. Anything more than that and you're no-lifing it.

lol the bolded part is so ironic coming from some like you that just accused anyone with more alts than you having no life. You made the statement anyone that has more alts than you has no life not me. Don't project your nonsense of defining "no lifer" to me. I never made any defintion.

I average about 12 hours per week although less so now. I play more when I am one of my "sabbaticals" which I take frequently to refresh but I also have more time then. I also have a wife and grown kids, a successful career with the monetary awards that come from it. I focus on other hobbies 3 nights per week and part of the day one weekend day. I usually spend a few hours at the beach every week. I exercise 10 hours per week on top of my daily bike rides into work. I consider it to be a very full and balanced life. What I don't do is spend much time watching tv or movies except when playing DDO I tend to multi-task by catching up on netflix series. Some part of my ddo time is playing with real life friends.

And I manage to do all this with some physical limitations that don't allow me to do everything possible in DDO.

The issue isn't people having more alts than you lacking a life - it's that you want things handed to you easier and you use this lame and false excuse to justify it.

[Sam-u-r-eye]

lol the bolded part is so ironic coming from some like you that just accused anyone with more alts than you having no life.

I have 4 toons.
3 of which are epic completionist without funny business, like boxes.

I also play 40+ hours a week.
I'm a definite no-lifer.

[Viconiax]

Back in the day, people could run multiple alts and swap roles around to fit into group. Now, it's all about 1 char and all DPS.