account share epic past life

[Readcom]

I know many will say no.
But I still would like to share bonuses account wise.
So I can play my alt and have some bonuses, not that I have to farm all the same again.
Now come post this is a Baaad idea.

[Epicstorms]

The latest developments did force players to focus on 1 toon.

Sharing pastlifes and reaper XP would be a fine solution for me.
I'd probably return to the game if they would reduce the insane grind for every single toon.

But yeah, a lot of people here will disagree. 'easy buttons' and all

[ramzes7asit4]

Let me guess, you also want the same for heroic/iconic/racial PL and reaper XP...

So, if this happen in future, what you propose for old player?
I mean next: some player have Triple Epic Completionist on main, and a lot of Epic PL on alts. Would they get some "compensation"?

[Cantor]

As someone with one character that has everything (but racial pasts) what do you do now?

Make an alt? no, it would be just like playing your main.

Sit at cap? not everyone likes to just grind gear.

You don't need everything on every character. That is what makes them different.

[nokowi]

I know many will say no.
But I still would like to share bonuses account wise.
So I can play my alt and have some bonuses, not that I have to farm all the same again.
Now come post this is a Baaad idea.

And here is the obvious extension to the Account wide RXP people.

See what you started?

It won't end here.

[Epicstorms]

Let me guess, you also want the same for heroic/iconic/racial PL and reaper XP...

So, if this happen in future, what you propose for old player?
I mean next: some player have Triple Epic Completionist on main, and a lot of Epic PL on alts. Would they get some "compensation"?

Would have been fine for me to only make reaper XP and racial PLs account shared, as it was new.

But this ship has long sailed and the devs do what they want.

For me personally this was too much and most friends/endgame players all TRed their mains and I didn't enjoy playing anymore.
I love this game, but sadly the latest 2 hamster wheels kill it for me.

[Rys]

And here is the obvious extension to the Account wide RXP people.

See what you started?

It won't end here.

Oh please, don't be shy to name that one person who started it. Me.

[Dragavon]

I know many will say no.
But I still would like to share bonuses account wise.
So I can play my alt and have some bonuses, not that I have to farm all the same again.
Now come post this is a Baaad idea.

Sure, why not.

The same for heroic and iconic past lives too. And fate points.

Also, when I get named raid loot give the same item to all my characters at the same time.

[Qhualor]

This is a baaad idea.

[Vulkoorex]

The added grind did reduce the number of alts I will be playing to maybe 1-2 apart from my main. I'm pretty sure it will be like that for most players as well (from what I read). No point in spending ddo points to upgrade the alt toons. Goodbye tomes, bags, bank space, etc. Translation: lost revenue.

[nokowi]

Oh please, don't be shy to name that one person who started it. Me.

It's the fact that the idea is bad that matters, not who started it.

If we learned anything from elite, it is that caving in to one demand to make something easier leads to 100x more of the same.

You should not have asked for account wide RXP if you don't support the same for every other aspect of the game.


I will again point to your no easy buttons stance that conflicts with many of your recommendations.

[nokowi]

The added grind did reduce the number of alts I will be playing to maybe 1-2 apart from my main. I'm pretty sure it will be like that for most players as well (from what I read). No point in spending ddo points to upgrade the alt toons. Goodbye tomes, bags, bank space, etc. Translation: lost revenue.

Others will be good enough to maintain 6 very good toons by just grabbing a few important things that are low hanging fruit.

It usually takes forumites 1-2 years to figure things out, so I expect comments like this for the next 1-2 years.

DDO players haven't had to learn or adapt in a long time, the game has just been too easy prior to reaper.


In the span of 3 months on the forums, the optimal time for completion for one toon has already dropped by a factor of 10, from 10 years to 1 year.

Spend 6-12 months per character in reaper and call it good. You don't have to have or even need everything.

[Coyopa]

Definitely not signed. I've got several alts that don't even get played anymore (on the order of about 10 of them, as a matter of fact). If I want past lives (of any kind) on those characters, then I should have to play those characters. Characters are individuals and their experiences vary, just like they would if they were real people.

[Rys]

i will again point to your no easy buttons stance that conflicts with many of your recommendations.

s)

[Enoach]

I disagree with the sentiment that people are "forced" to play only one character. This is a choice made by the player.

Even with todays difficulties there isn't a need to have all the bells and whistles to be successful. In fact I would hazard to guess that about 50% of the Past Life available boosts are practically unused by most builds.

Why I like the idea of each character "earning" their own past lives and not sharing. For me each of my six characters only share the shared bank, outside of that they are separate entities. I get this most likely because of my Pen and Paper days of playing Table Top Role Playing games. Each has their own limits based on their own experiences.

In my opinion having shared past lives would cheapen the experience of running each character. Of my six characters only three are epic completionest, One is one life away and the other two are 5+ lives away. However, I really enjoy playing all of them because each is different in how they play. Sharing of Past Lives would create a "sameness". The "sameness" is what I'm working to avoid with my characters.



Of all the XP systems the only one I can see a reason to share is the Unlock of Cosmetic items for Reaper - Such that each vendor bases your Total Reaper XP based on the total Reaper XP of each character. This would help players who feel forced to play only one character because the unlock of Cosmetic items is too high. But I don't think their trees should share the XP.

[Uska]

It's a terrible idea

[nokowi]

I disagree with the sentiment that people are "forced" to play only one character. This is a choice made by the player.

Even with todays difficulties there isn't a need to have all the bells and whistles to be successful. In fact I would hazard to guess that about 50% of the Past Life available boosts are practically unused by most builds.

Why I like the idea of each character "earning" their own past lives and not sharing. For me each of my six characters only share the shared bank, outside of that they are separate entities. I get this most likely because of my Pen and Paper days of playing Table Top Role Playing games. Each has their own limits based on their own experiences.

In my opinion having shared past lives would cheapen the experience of running each character. Of my six characters only three are epic completionest, One is one life away and the other two are 5+ lives away. However, I really enjoy playing all of them because each is different in how they play. Sharing of Past Lives would create a "sameness". The "sameness" is what I'm working to avoid with my characters.



Of all the XP systems the only one I can see a reason to share is the Unlock of Cosmetic items for Reaper - Such that each vendor bases your Total Reaper XP based on the total Reaper XP of each character. This would help players who feel forced to play only one character because the unlock of Cosmetic items is too high. But I don't think their trees should share the XP.

They can and have offered cosmetic rewards through remnant rewards.

There is no reason to do anything special through RXP.

If people want more cosmetic rewards, they should continue threads that ask for them.

[slarden]

It's the fact that the idea is bad that matters, not who started it.

If we learned anything from elite, it is that caving in to one demand to make something easier leads to 100x more of the same.

You should not have asked for account wide RXP if you don't support the same for every other aspect of the game.


I will again point to your no easy buttons stance that conflicts with many of your recommendations.

That's been my approach to everything in this game. Grab the low hanging fruit for all alts then work on improving and optimizing as time permits. I am guessing 30 racial lifes will get you about 50-60 reaper points or so. That is enough for anything important to a build in about 3 months per alt for a true grinder and longer for those with less time.

Over time the trend has been clear. People are focusing more on one character and less on alts.

[Avantasian]

It's the fact that the idea is bad that matters, not who started it.

If we learned anything from elite, it is that caving in to one demand to make something easier leads to 100x more of the same.

You should not have asked for account wide RXP if you don't support the same for every other aspect of the game.


I will again point to your no easy buttons stance that conflicts with many of your recommendations.

Out of curiosity, what are the 100 demands that made elite easier?

[Avantasian]

You should not have asked for account wide RXP if you don't support the same for every other aspect of the game.

The first fact that absolutely demolishes your statement is that we already have account wide aspects of progession, so by your "logic" we should already have account wide everything.
The logical failure of your statement is that you miss the fact that the existance and status of other systems can (and do) motivate the suggestion to change a specific one. IE: There are so many huge character-only grinds that making one of then account wide would benefical for alt-reasons.

You are free to disagree with the benefits of account wide RXP, but to say that if one support it one must also support the same for every aspect of the game is just way beneath you.