Racial Past Life Opinion Poll

[noinfo]

Interesting, so if I'm understanding you right you'd like for Racial TR to be possible as it's own thing either from 1-20 or from 20-30, and additional possibility to get some bonuses at cap if you don't want to TR any. I think that's interesting, but I guess my question then becomes this. If that were the situation to be introduced, what are the reasons to not have the 1-20 grind also grant the heroic past life of your dominant class, and the 20-30 grind to also include an EPL?

The issue is that whether they are SSG or Turbine it is rare that they take onboard feedback.

So I do not want to be promoting more reasons to TR 1-20 then they have now with the best bonuses for reaper via first time bonuses in this space.

If they were to to allow all levels access as I suggested and balance reaper xp at end game then I would have no issue with other pastlives being bundled. Otherwise no it should stay by itself, Racial pastlife, heroic pastlife and best possible reaper xp is too much imo. Reaper itself has already smashed a lot of end game due to restrictions and bonuses that reward first time bonuses over challenge.

[Ryiah]

From a business stand point, this is exactly what SSG needs to accomplish. A reason for someone to spend and additional "X" number of hours playing the game.

At the same time you don't want to give them too much of a grind... or they'll find a different game to play. There are many MMOs out there. Someone just starting won't be as deeply rooted as us veterans.

[noinfo]

I was under the impression that for the 1st 2 past lives they were only for the race you tr'd from. The 3rd one for the point is somehow bankable and can be used in any Race tree (Including Iconics). So where do you get the +2 int points fro drow and gnome unless you mean point for each?.
Obviously you know ozz and I will be getting the points for the SunElf tree so I have more to spend in archmage etc. (already worked out what I will spend them on)

Yep 1 from Drow, one from Gnome.

[EShadowbringer]

Voted as their own thing.
I am for one excited about a TR mechanic that allows me to play any class or multi class that i want! I have had no reason whatsoever to play a Wizard on my 2 main toons in a couple of years

With Racial TRs i will be able to play wizard anytime i feel like it and still make my character better .. Win Win! Double dipping on racial TR is a bad idea in my opinion. I want this game to be around for as long as possible.

[Blastyswa]

Voted as their own thing.
I am for one excited about a TR mechanic that allows me to play any class or multi class that i want! I have had no reason whatsoever to play a Wizard on my 2 main toons in a couple of years

With Racial TRs i will be able to play wizard anytime i feel like it and still make my character better .. Win Win! Double dipping on racial TR is a bad idea in my opinion. I want this game to be around for as long as possible.

You could still play a wizard anytime you feel like it, there's nothing but gain on that point. If you want to play 30 racial TRs as a wizard, you'd get all 30 racial TRs, and max out your wizard past lives. If someone else wants to play 30 racial TRs as 3x wizard/3x favored soul/3x etc., they could as well. The point wouldn't be to make it so you can't TR unless you're gaining both the benefit of the class and race, but to allow players to get the benefit of both the class and the race if they're eligible.

[Vulkoorex]

With.

I am more likely to spend $$$ on Otto boxes to catch up / get to completionist if I see a light at the end of the tunnel. With the amount of grind being implemented (and future grind), I am most likely never going to reach completionist status. Therefore, my spending will decrease to very little to none.

[Gljosh]

I voted as there own thing, Iconics require almost 10 million XP to get two Past Lives, a Heroic is 3.8 mil.

Thus making the Iconic Past Life Feat cost roughly 6.2 mil, for a bonus and stance.

Having the Racial Past Life cost 3.8, is fine.

Maybe bump the Skill Bonus from +1 to +2, I mean I could get a +1 Search from Drow/Gnome or a +1 to all Int Skills from Arti.

[Blastyswa]

I voted as there own thing, Iconics require almost 10 million XP to get two Past Lives, a Heroic is 3.8 mil.

Thus making the Iconic Past Life Feat cost roughly 6.2 mil, for a bonus and stance.

Having the Racial Past Life cost 3.8, is fine.

Maybe bump the Skill Bonus from +1 to +2, I mean I could get a +1 Search from Drow/Gnome or a +1 to all Int Skills from Arti.

It's not the same scale though. In heroics reaper 1 Shadow Crypt with full bells and whistles will give about 40k base, closer to 70k with VIP/sovereign xp pot factored in. An epic normal von 3 will give easily over 100k with those same bells and whistles, and can be run 2x EN at any epic level along with the other dozen best xp/min quests for a total of 2m+ xp without a couple hours. It's like comparing call of duty with actual warfare; sure they're both called combat, but in an actual war your kill/death ratio is going to be a low single or double digit number/0 or 1, and in call of duty you'll go 55/3 or whatever, it's a completely different scale.

[Vulkoorex]

I voted as there own thing, Iconics require almost 10 million XP to get two Past Lives, a Heroic is 3.8 mil.

Thus making the Iconic Past Life Feat cost roughly 6.2 mil, for a bonus and stance.

Having the Racial Past Life cost 3.8, is fine.

Maybe bump the Skill Bonus from +1 to +2, I mean I could get a +1 Search from Drow/Gnome or a +1 to all Int Skills from Arti.

You're forgetting that in Epics the xp is much higher and there are no level limits.
In Heroics, there is a penalty applied for being over levelled.

[Edstienkin]

At the same time you don't want to give them too much of a grind... or they'll find a different game to play. There are many MMOs out there. Someone just starting won't be as deeply rooted as us veterans.

I really don't understand those who complain about HAVING to grind out something. Be it slavers gear, or PL's or LGS.
Please explain this to me.
Really, I don't understand.

If you go to a restaurant and they serve a plate with 50 hamburgers on it, do you HAVE to eat the whole thing? Are they making you eat it all? Are you less capable because you only wanted 1? Does it DESTROY your enjoyment of eating 1 burger because all you can think about is that plate with 50 on them? And you just somehow HAVE to eat all of them?

And this Vets vs newbs thing.

If this game was PvP based, then yes I would agree.
But it is not.

The ol' "that guy who has been playing for 5 yrs has so and so, or such and such, I must have it too, and now. Or I will feel like a third-class person, and it wrecks my enjoyment of the game".

Something else I don't understand.

Guess it must be a generational thing.

PS: While I have been playing for over 5 years, I have 6 TR's. I play for fun.