opinion about new bank system

[Targal]

Extremely increased slots of bank are so nice, but It came with a critical problem. It's bad to arrange.

As the game getting old, It has been giving us a bunch of items that we can hardly remember what they were, where they were. but We were simply able to identify what they're, arrange where they're. tab 1 for the items I use currently, tab 2 for consumable items, tab 3 for the item I'll use after TR, tab 4 for the item I want to just keep, tab 5 for the item I can use later. It was simple.

But the problem came now. 100 items as not arranged in bank slot? Oh, How can people arrange the items. consumable, jewelry, armor, weapon, low-level and high-level things... into just one tab? Seriously, I'm not sure people will be really happy with that new bank system. having many slots is nice, but You wasted convenience away. That's why I don't like shared slots very well.

Putting a search bar isn't best way. I see that thing like "I think people will be enough as putting a search bar. They can feel convenient enough from this." meh. some may, but not me. It works only when you know the name.

I hope you can find better convenience for better arrangement as people feel less annoy.

[changelingamuck]

It works only when you know the name.

Not to mention the fact that many unique items have the same name--for example named items that come in different versions at different minimum levels.

[Seikojin]

With the new system, they can modify one spot to handle arrangement, and it should trickle down to both at the same time. So I am fine without drag to order with more slot potential and search now and get ordering options later.

[Targal]

With the new system, they can modify one spot to handle arrangement, and it should trickle down to both at the same time. So I am fine without drag to order with more slot potential and search now and get ordering options later.

putting ordering options will be nice... sort by level, type - jewelry, armor, weapon and so on... check box that only shows available to equip. That'll be reasonable enough.

[Cantor]

If they let you sort by ML, I'm sold. That's all I need.

As Targal said filtering like the alternate inventory with item types is awesome too.

[SerPounce]

The idea of the character banking turning into the unorganizable pile that is the shared bank is really worrying. I'm frankly slightly embarrassed by how much it's stressing me thinking of all my carefully organized banks getting thrown into piles. It's like the idea of someone going into my house and throwing all my stuff into heaps that I can never reorganize.

I get that the shared bank interface is a lot easier for the devs to deal with on their end, but it's really terrible to deal with as a player IMO. I've long hoped that they would go the other way, and allow me to organize the shared bank. I only have 50 shared bank slots because I can't bare to use the thing for more than a transfer station and some stuff I want to have constant access to on multiple toons (xp pots, mirrors of glamorizing, etc). If I could organize the shared bank into inventory like squares I would buy all the available space.

Please don't do this to the character bank. Please.

[Marupal]

It is likely we will be pulling the new character bank from Update 35, and will not bring out an updated UI with additional bank space until we resolve at least some of the community's concerns over it.

I did a TR on lamannia and the items in my character bank remained in the character bank instead of getting put into the TR cache. Is that WAI? If so, whoever is working on this deserves a solid "You rock!" and a thanks.

Do we really have to have either a list like the shared bank OR the current tabbed panel UI for the character bank? Is it possible to do both the same as our backpack inventory? It is definitely appreciated having the ability to switch between the different views.

putting ordering options will be nice... sort by level, type - jewelry, armor, weapon and so on... check box that only shows available to equip. That'll be reasonable enough.

Having "sort by" options like that would be excellent.

I don't know why they don't organize it like LotRO bank space. Personal and shared both can search, and there are several tabs into which you can categorize your items plus a tab for All. Each category can be custom labeled.

Haven't played LOTRO yet but that sounds like an excellent direction for an updated UI.

[changelingamuck]

With the new system, they can modify one spot to handle arrangement, and it should trickle down to both at the same time. So I am fine without drag to order with more slot potential and search now and get ordering options later.

But they're not doing that. This change was specifically motivated by the fact that it allows them to add more storage space to the character bank UI without doing a lot of additional, new, from-the-ground-up coding work.

There was no developer comment on all the complaints when this change was originally mentioned in the producer's letter and no developer comment on all the complaints that are being made now. Some player comments keep saying, "just make sure you can search by ML or drag-and-reorder or sort in X, Y, or Z way"; but the change is happening specifically so they can add space without taking on a lot of new coding. Otherwise, the developer statement about this change wouldn't be 'The character bank UI is being made to work like the shared bank UI.'; it would be 'The character bank UI is being made to work like the shared bank UI except it won't be bad in X, Y, and Z ways'.

[Cordovan]

It is likely we will be pulling the new character bank from Update 35, and will not bring out an updated UI with additional bank space until we resolve at least some of the community's concerns over it.

[changelingamuck]

It is likely we will be pulling the new character bank from Update 35, and will not bring out an updated UI with additional bank space until we resolve at least some of the community's concerns over it.

Thanks, that's a big relief. I know UI changes and inventory management aren't 'glamorous'/'sexy' attention-getting projects like new races or classes. But this is the sort of UI change that amounts to one line of text in release notes that most people wouldn't pay attention to until it went live and then after it went live the backlash would be phenomenal. There hasn't been any change to this game made that's been more worrisome to me than this downgrade of the UI/inventory management has been... How big the damage numbers are for some characters spitting fire or the number of '+'s in some past lives are issues that pale in comparison to losing basic inventory management functionality...

[Targal]

It is likely we will be pulling the new character bank from Update 35, and will not bring out an updated UI with additional bank space until we resolve at least some of the community's concerns over it.

Phew, Thanks. It's just bad to arrange, but having many slots is still nice.

[SerPounce]

It is likely we will be pulling the new character bank from Update 35, and will not bring out an updated UI with additional bank space until we resolve at least some of the community's concerns over it.

Thank you. I get why you guys want to do this. The shared bank is more flexible and easier to deal with on your end, but it just isn't the solution to the lack of space in the character bank. I don't know what's feasible and what isn't in terms up upgrades to the bank, but this would be a straight downgrade, not just "not the upgrade we'd dream of."

Maybe sell the Kundarak favor upgrades in the store? That way TRs can have all their blank space right away. Not much, but it's something.

[Alistina]

It is likely we will be pulling the new character bank from Update 35, and will not bring out an updated UI with additional bank space until we resolve at least some of the community's concerns over it.

Thank you!! Have to say, like everyone else mentioned, I have my own personal way of organising things in the inventory and character bank. This I do exactly the same way across all toons, server and accounts. I wouldn't know what to do with the game if this was taken away. The TR cache and shared bank is horrible, and I can never find the item/s I need, till some day at a later point it shows up, long after its needed.

Till the day you can find a better solution to introducing sales of extra personal storage space, your current policy of having raid items btc and rest everything bta works just fine for me.

[HastyPudding]

It is likely we will be pulling the new character bank from Update 35, and will not bring out an updated UI with additional bank space until we resolve at least some of the community's concerns over it.

Excellent idea. Bigger bank is nice, disorganized bank is not.

[Wizza]

It is likely we will be pulling the new character bank from Update 35, and will not bring out an updated UI with additional bank space until we resolve at least some of the community's concerns over it.

This function was already said that was not coming in U35, before we even got to test it.

Miscellaneous

• The Character Bank tab has been updated to match the Shared Account bank UI. (Note: This is very likely NOT going live until after U35.)

It's not like you guys decided to pull it from U35 after the feedback, as it sounds from your post.

[Stoner81]

It is likely we will be pulling the new character bank from Update 35, and will not bring out an updated UI with additional bank space until we resolve at least some of the community's concerns over it.

Monster heart felt thank you Cordo, and to the rest of the team, for listening to us on this topic!

We are all for more storage but that storage needs to be usable in a way akin to how it is now (or at least similar), being able to split up tabs for different things makes like so much easier it's not even funny If it means waiting months for a better system then I should imagine everybody would be willing to wait for it without question, take the amount of time needed to do it right the first time. We have waited this long so what's another 12 months or whatever I would rather wait the extra time and know that the system coming would be great!

Stoner81.

[Xanthrawl]

It is likely we will be pulling the new character bank from Update 35, and will not bring out an updated UI with additional bank space until we resolve at least some of the community's concerns over it.

On a possibly related note, I have already purchased both personal character bank expansions on my main from the DDO Store. For a couple of weeks now, they are able to be purchased again on this character. I have not pulled the trigger, as they are labeled 1 and 2 which I have already purchased. My concern is that it won't do anything, but take my points. I'd really rather not go through the hoops of contacting Customer Service if this were to happen, but I'd LOVE more BtC storage. (Like, you don't even know how much. This will be the 2nd best thing to ever happen to DDO, the first being TRing.)

While I am champing at the bit to have more BtC storage space, I don't want to throw away 500+TP to find out whether it works or is a bug. I also share concerns about the functionality of the new bank UI.

It may not be worth investigating if you all are close to releasing the new bank UI. If it is still several updates out, you may want to look into whether this is a bug and what may be causing it.

[dunklezhan]

Extremely increased slots of bank are so nice, but It came with a critical problem. It's bad to arrange.

As the game getting old, It has been giving us a bunch of items that we can hardly remember what they were, where they were. but We were simply able to identify what they're, arrange where they're. tab 1 for the items I use currently, tab 2 for consumable items, tab 3 for the item I'll use after TR, tab 4 for the item I want to just keep, tab 5 for the item I can use later. It was simple.

But the problem came now. 100 items as not arranged in bank slot? Oh, How can people arrange the items. consumable, jewelry, armor, weapon, low-level and high-level things... into just one tab? Seriously, I'm not sure people will be really happy with that new bank system. having many slots is nice, but You wasted convenience away. That's why I don't like shared slots very well.

Putting a search bar isn't best way. I see that thing like "I think people will be enough as putting a search bar. They can feel convenient enough from this." meh. some may, but not me. It works only when you know the name.

I hope you can find better convenience for better arrangement as people feel less annoy.

You are not a native english speaker. I can tell. And this post was better and more coherent than a very large proportion of the supposedly native speakers.

Well done, and thanks for taking the time. +1