Has DA been stealth nerfed?

[FranOhmsford]

Ran EN DA today on Argo to get tokens for a dualbox alt.

1st run - 3 players + the Dualbox - ZERO Tokens for my main toon, 1 for the Dualbox, according to the other two players no tokens in the right chest for them either {they both passed a token in the main chest.}.
So my Dualbox ended up with 3 tokens out of a possible 8 and supposedly all tokens that appeared were passed.

2nd run - 5 players + the Dualbox - 4 Tokens total and supposedly all that appeared were passed! NOT ONE SINGLE TOKEN APPEARED IN THE RIGHT HAND CHEST, All were in the main Epic Chest.
So 4 out of a possible 12 from that one and 7 out of a possible 20 in total from the two runs?

Have the Devs nerfed EN DA and removed the token drop from the right hand chest while also reducing the drop rate in the Epic Chest?

If so NOT COOL DEVS!!!

[AbyssalMage]

Most likely. I know it was stated it wasn't WAI back during U15 or abouts. The fact that tokens are now used in crafting would help encourage them (SSG) to fix/nerf this finally.

[Annex]

I play Devil Assault almost every day. If I recall correctly, my avatar and her sister both looted 2 Tokens this morning (and the day before as well)

I have noticed that if one sister loots an item that replaces the Token, such as a Shard of (Whatever) Power or an Energy Cell, the other tends to loot such things as well. I have always thought it rather strange how often both loot the same sorts of items.

[Jasparion]

Ran EN DA today on Argo to get tokens for a dualbox alt.

1st run - 3 players + the Dualbox - ZERO Tokens for my main toon, 1 for the Dualbox, according to the other two players no tokens in the right chest for them either {they both passed a token in the main chest.}.
So my Dualbox ended up with 3 tokens out of a possible 8 and supposedly all tokens that appeared were passed.

2nd run - 5 players + the Dualbox - 4 Tokens total and supposedly all that appeared were passed! NOT ONE SINGLE TOKEN APPEARED IN THE RIGHT HAND CHEST, All were in the main Epic Chest.
So 4 out of a possible 12 from that one and 7 out of a possible 20 in total from the two runs?

Have the Devs nerfed EN DA and removed the token drop from the right hand chest while also reducing the drop rate in the Epic Chest?

If so NOT COOL DEVS!!!

EN has always given better items than EH. Clearly this was a bug. No idea if they have changed it, but simply no reason to complain about it have they done it.

[Saekee]

I really hope that this is not the case.

I can run challenges easily for mats/token turn-ins but DA was always a nice source of GS mats/tokens and even some xp, all in one quest.

[Simard]

But two runs the other day with a full party gave 24 tokens or 2 each per character per run.

[Cocomajobo]

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(As a note: To my knowledge (while at home without access to changlist information) no purposeful alterations were made to the drop rates, however, with U34 every loot table in the game was touched, added to, and altered by hand so it is entirely plausible that any specific chest in any specific dungeon on any specific difficulty is behaving differently than it was before the update.)

[Mofus]

Read by QA!(As a note: To my knowledge (while at home without access to changlist information) no purposeful alterations were made to the drop rates, however, with U34 every loot table in the game was touched, added to, and altered by hand so it is entirely plausible that any specific chest in any specific dungeon on any specific difficulty is behaving differently than it was before the update.)

Thank you for responding to this thread and the other one about no drops in von 6, I just don't know why it has taken this long to get a response. This issue has been posted here more than once for the past 2 weeks.

[noinfo]

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(As a note: To my knowledge (while at home without access to changlist information) no purposeful alterations were made to the drop rates, however, with U34 every loot table in the game was touched, added to, and altered by hand so it is entirely plausible that any specific chest in any specific dungeon on any specific difficulty is behaving differently than it was before the update.)

This happened a number of updates ago and was brought up on the forums. The second chest has been only some times spawned with the ability to have tokens. This may have happened during random loot pass but can't remember. This is not recent

[Roland_D'Arabel]

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(As a note: To my knowledge (while at home without access to changlist information) no purposeful alterations were made to the drop rates, however, with U34 every loot table in the game was touched, added to, and altered by hand so it is entirely plausible that any specific chest in any specific dungeon on any specific difficulty is behaving differently than it was before the update.)

Hi Coco,

Since you have eyes on this thread I will throw this here instead of starting a new thread. Since U34 there have been quite a few weird random gen loot items. A few examples include:

min level 28 plate mail and docent from EE What Goes Up masterwork, bind on equip, no other affixes
min level 14 long sword and rapier from Wheloon epic chain end reward with insightful deadly +2 (no one I play with has ever seen this before)
min level 14 tower shield from Wheloon epic chain end reward masterwork, no other affixes
compasses in Stormhorn chain end reward loot list
chain reward lists from Stormhorns and Wheloon on epic only offering 3 items in list

Not sure if these are bugs so I am bringing it to your attention.