So, what is going to happen with level lockout?

[slarden]

Reaper is about challenge and not efficient farming of reaper rewards at cap by running lower level quests. Triple completionists are not prevented from tr'ing to run low level content at the proper level. And if they do they will be back at 30 again when they finish so the whole not wanting to tr cry fest is just an excuse to farm reaper gear more efficiently.

i have a long history of being empathetic towards new and casual players. This is for people wanting a challenge. Not for casual players and not for pretenders that just want to farm gear.

Keep reaper about challenge and not about efficient farming of reaper rewards.

there is no need to react to vets crying a river because they don't want to tr to run content at the right level. There is content to run if they don't want to tr.

[Tlorrd]

In fact, I have no issue with people having different opinions. I have issues where you tell people to **** it up because you feel your opinion is better.

Umm ... Pot calling the kettle black much ... You're hilarious.

[Wizza]

Reaper is about challenge and not efficient farming of reaper rewards at cap by running lower level quests. Triple completionists are not prevented from tr'ing to run low level content at the proper level. And if they do they will be back at 30 again when they finish so the whole not wanting to tr cry fest is just an excuse to farm reaper gear more efficiently.

i have a long history of being empathetic towards new and casual players. This is for people wanting a challenge. Not for casual players and not for pretenders that just want to farm gear.

Keep reaper about challenge and not about efficient farming of reaper rewards.

there is no need to react to vets crying a river because they don't want to tr to run content at the right level. There is content to run if they don't want to tr.

But the most recent poll and threads shows people not wanting trees, nor rewards.

[slarden]

But the most recent poll and threads shows people not wanting trees, nor rewards.

Then they shou;d allow running over the level but provide no rewards if anyone is over the level- simple fix.

[Wizza]

Then they shou;d allow running over the level but provide no rewards if anyone is over the level- simple fix.

I agree. Never really cared about Reaper bonus on items, even less about Reaper XP.

[Vanhooger]

Reaper is about challenge and not efficient farming of reaper rewards at cap by running lower level quests. Triple completionists are not prevented from tr'ing to run low level content at the proper level. And if they do they will be back at 30 again when they finish so the whole not wanting to tr cry fest is just an excuse to farm reaper gear more efficiently.

i have a long history of being empathetic towards new and casual players. This is for people wanting a challenge. Not for casual players and not for pretenders that just want to farm gear.

Keep reaper about challenge and not about efficient farming of reaper rewards.

there is no need to react to vets crying a river because they don't want to tr to run content at the right level. There is content to run if they don't want to tr.

I don't know why all those reply about vet/ non vet, crying/ not crying, reward/ no reward, xp/ no xp. I asked a very simple question and I am still waiting an answer from dev's or community manager.

For what is worth since you guys keep talking about other stuff instead of answer my question, I don't want:

- XP
- Reward
- Tree

I don't care about TR'ing to do a dungeon while waiting 2 hour to get a healer and tank to do reaper at level.

You guys think everyone enjoy doing tr like you do. I don't. Tr to run few dungeon at level? Not a hope...I don't have the time for that.

I want endgame stuff to keep me playing, otherwise I will play other game, simple as that.

Farming reaper gear? Are you serious? I don't give a **** about a bunch of + something reaper bonus worthless item at cap. Nothing is better then CC gear if you want to run at level reaper.

[Gljosh]

I don't know why all those reply about vet/ non vet, crying/ not crying, reward/ no reward, xp/ no xp. I asked a very simple question and I am still waiting an answer from dev's or community manager.

For what is worth since you guys keep talking about other stuff instead of answer my question, I don't want:

- XP
- Reward
- Tree

I don't care about TR'ing to do a dungeon while waiting 2 hour to get a healer and tank to do reaper at level.

You guys think everyone enjoy doing tr like you do. I don't. Tr to run few dungeon at level? Not a hope...I don't have the time for that.

I want endgame stuff to keep me playing, otherwise I will play other game, simple as that.

Farming reaper gear? Are you serious? I don't give a **** about a bunch of + something reaper bonus worthless item at cap. Nothing is better then CC gear if you want to run at level reaper.

So more Legendary Versions of old quest?

I assume that the Legendary Quests will also have Reaper added. Legendary 10 Reaper Skull Hounds sound like a horrible time.

[HAL]

Actually, it's not an option precisely for many people who do want an additional challenge.

Devs made their (bad) decision, and have given no sign of re-thinking it. So that just means that me, who was in the audience for more challenge, doesn't bother with Reaper.

Now that Reaper is settled, devs, can we have more challenge, please? For those of us locked out of most Reaper?

I continue to be mystified by the oxymoron of:

"I want a challenge" and

"I want to run quests 7 or more levels below my character"

from the same person.

[HAL]

IRCC he thought the game was hard enough.

"Just take off your gear and play underlevel!"
"Roll a new toon!"

In other words any farming or progression is a bad thing for people who want challenge. They need to run gimped and expect any experience of progression they obtain should be confined to 2-3 quests at "endgame."

In this kind of world shinies and enjoyment are mutually exclusive.

How is Reaper Mode nerfing the power you worked so hard to get different from you deciding to nerf it yourself?

[Vanhooger]

I continue to be mystified by the oxymoron of:

"I want a challenge" and

"I want to run quests 7 or more levels below my character"

from the same person.

It just a way to get a wider option of quest to enjoy once you are at cap, this doesn't prevent you to do reaper quest at level for challenge if you want. You know not everyone like to do endless TR, or you may be tired of doing TR like I am, and going to run the same quest as I did for last year, isn't too much of an excitement.

Of course r10 lod wont be equal as r10 slavers, but it will be fun enough to run instead of running same quest over and over again.

[HAL]

It just a way to get a wider option of quest to enjoy once you are at cap, this doesn't prevent you to do reaper quest at level for challenge if you want. You know not everyone like to do endless TR, or you may be tired of doing TR like I am, and going to run the same quest as I did for last year, isn't too much of an excitement.

Of course r10 lod wont be equal as r10 slavers, but it will be fun enough to run instead of running same quest over and over again.

Ok, so the point of wanting greater access isn't for the challenge, its to have more to do at cap. But those of you requesting this are really looking for End Game content, where Reaper is another mode like Hard and Elite. It is a mode that was created to provide challenge, not to provide End Game. By you and others insisting on being able to overlevel Reaper, you are nerfing it as a challenge AND adding to Power Creep at the same time. Both things are no good for DDO.

[Rys]

Ok, so the point of wanting greater access isn't for the challenge, its to have more to do at cap. But those of you requesting this are really looking for End Game content, where Reaper is another mode like Hard and Elite. It is a mode that was created to provide challenge, not to provide End Game. By you and others insisting on being able to overlevel Reaper, you are nerfing it as a challenge AND adding to Power Creep at the same time. Both things are no good for the game.

Noone asked for powercreep. Low level epics on reaper are actually still challenging to the capped characters. It honestly seems like you make a casual from it which is simply false. Arguing what is good or not for the game is ambivalent. Pretty sure reaper could have lurk in many vets who are on the break especially with the possibility to run the old raids with the difficulty brought up by a margin.

[Wizza]

Ok, so the point of wanting greater access isn't for the challenge, its to have more to do at cap. But those of you requesting this are really looking for End Game content, where Reaper is another mode like Hard and Elite. It is a mode that was created to provide challenge, not to provide End Game. By you and others insisting on being able to overlevel Reaper, you are nerfing it as a challenge AND adding to Power Creep at the same time. Both things are no good for DDO.

You would be correct, if low level epics weren't challenging. But the truth is they are, and pugs will have issues with those too.

[slarden]

I don't know why all those reply about vet/ non vet, crying/ not crying, reward/ no reward, xp/ no xp. I asked a very simple question and I am still waiting an answer from dev's or community manager.

For what is worth since you guys keep talking about other stuff instead of answer my question, I don't want:

- XP
- Reward
- Tree

I don't care about TR'ing to do a dungeon while waiting 2 hour to get a healer and tank to do reaper at level.

You guys think everyone enjoy doing tr like you do. I don't. Tr to run few dungeon at level? Not a hope...I don't have the time for that.

I want endgame stuff to keep me playing, otherwise I will play other game, simple as that.

Farming reaper gear? Are you serious? I don't give a **** about a bunch of + something reaper bonus worthless item at cap. Nothing is better then CC gear if you want to run at level reaper.

i am fine if they let people run it over the level but suppress the rewards entirely.

[Vanhooger]

Noone asked for powercreep. Low level epics on reaper are actually still challenging to the capped characters. It honestly seems like you make a casual from it which is simply false. Arguing what is good or not for the game is ambivalent. Pretty sure reaper could have lurk in many vets who are on the break especially with the possibility to run the old raids with the difficulty brought up by a margin.

Actually some of the old epics are more challenging due to some mechanics that doesn't involve just kill everything at sight.

As well as you said people think that low level epic quest are going to be cakewalk...I guess they didn't step in reaper at all.

[Vanhooger]

Ok, so the point of wanting greater access isn't for the challenge, its to have more to do at cap. But those of you requesting this are really looking for End Game content, where Reaper is another mode like Hard and Elite. It is a mode that was created to provide challenge, not to provide End Game. By you and others insisting on being able to overlevel Reaper, you are nerfing it as a challenge AND adding to Power Creep at the same time. Both things are no good for DDO.

What is the problem with that? You can still take your lvl 20 and do lod r10 for challenge, if you really want it. Nobody will prevent you to do it. As well nobody asked for powercreep, quite the opposite.

[HAL]

Actually some of the old epics are more challenging due to some mechanics that doesn't involve just kill everything at sight.

As well as you said people think that low level epic quest are going to be cakewalk...I guess they didn't step in reaper at all.

Wow, nice hyperbole. There is a huge difference between claiming that running a level 23 or lower quest on a level 30 is not challenging, and it being "a cakewalk".

[Rys]

Wow, nice hyperbole. There is a huge difference between claiming that running a level 23 or lower quest on a level 30 is not challenging, and it being "a cakewalk".

I am looking forward to your not challenging completions ^^

[levy1964]

Wow, nice hyperbole. There is a huge difference between claiming that running a level 23 or lower quest on a level 30 is not challenging, and it being "a cakewalk".

If u here...11years?...how to do, u can't understand this..?

[Sam-u-r-eye]

Wow, nice hyperbole. There is a huge difference between claiming that running a level 23 or lower quest on a level 30 is not challenging, and it being "a cakewalk".

As opposed to someone speaking from principle and not experience. I guess you and everyone else like that will learn the hard way---if you even interested in Reaper.

Storm the Beaches is absolutely great. That quest is ACTUALLY scaled as high as 3bC (minus mob saves) and is more difficult than, say, Two-Toed Tobias. That's what you're not seeing here. Did you run any low level epics on Reaper? Many of them are tough. We had people wiping on skull 10 in Litany of the Dead at level 30---not that a balanced party couldn't crush the quest.

Some of low level epics have no practical use for loot, and are amusing. Don't Drink the Water is amazing.
I want real dragon fights---not 45s at the end of a quest (AT LEVEL) where everyone chops the poor guy into bits.
I want to be eaten---and Skull 10 DDTW is a place to get eaten.