pure vs split tempest.

[goodspeed]

Basically the main thing is for the capstone in tempest. But ive been thinking is it worth it? I could take the cap and get little in return with the actual levels, or I could give up the cap and go for an 18 1 1 split or 18/2 rog, or 16/3/1 rng pal ftr split.

Basically its more about being a bladeforged and haveing that big middle finger I win button with another feat and some extra prr, more if I went 3 for the added 25 defense.

Any thoughts? Oh and I figured fighter as the third split for the feat and the haste boost which would free up tempest slot to choose sprint and run like I stole something.

[Kriogen]

Im multiclassoholic. But I have simple rules:
1. If in doubt, don't
2. MC must give me something that I can not get in any other way and I want. And it better be good.
3. Capstone or Evasion (after armor-up change I added fullplate+towershield)

Comments:
1. You are "asking", so don't.
2. Based on your list, only /Rog gives you something you can't get in any other way. Traps, locks. But do you want this?
3. OK, you have Evasion(from Ranger9). But will you run around in fullplate+towershield?

[goodspeed]

Im multiclassoholic. But I have simple rules:
1. If in doubt, don't
2. MC must give me something that I can not get in any other way and I want. And it better be good.
3. Capstone or Evasion (after armor-up change I added fullplate+towershield)

Comments:
1. You are "asking", so don't.
2. Based on your list, only /Rog gives you something you can't get in any other way. Traps, locks. But do you want this?
3. OK, you have Evasion(from Ranger9). But will you run around in fullplate+towershield?

lol if it was back before they jipped us, you better believe id have a set of heavy armor on every character ( I still do on most of my mages heh) But no we were screwed so might as well wear light armor and use dodge as a secondary defense with evasion.

The main draw for me is mostly recon. If a ranger got heal as a lv 20 master tier spell id be pure all the way. Its just the addiction of that **** easily amped jacked recon with all that defense and amp in the docent from rescue. Jump in tear into everything with death dance and hop out for a recon then back in.

The other stuff is mostly fluff prr/mrr, run speed. Idk, i'll have to debate it and run the numbers.

Its a shame bards cant be lawful. Id have some fun with a 3 split of that and the ranger.

[nimodoc]

If you dnt mind sticking to longswords, could take whirling steel strike and do a 12/6/2 rngr/ftr/monk split. wis bonus plus defender bonus to AC, maybe take monk lvls b4 fight lvls and use the feats to go down the adept at forms line. plus this lets you maintain a better than average AC while keeping evasion and throw in some dodge bonuses for good measure. Though you'll need to take oversized TWF if you want to dual wield longswords more efficiently

[Mr_Helmet]

Pure, don't over-think tempest.

[goodspeed]

Actually next life I might go for a bard variant. After comparing the tree's. Maybe a PDK 14 ranger 3 ftr 3 Brd combo with the defense stance mixed with the bards inherent buffs and clicky 30% double. I'll take this thing up to cap and see how it does... or at least until I get sick of leveling it toward cap and destinies. Compare the 2.

[Eth]

In any case, if you drop more than 2 ranger levels, you should drop to 15 ranger. There's nothing to gain with 16 or 17 rangers levels.
Bladeforged is rough on the AP split.
You really want 40 in tempest (Tier 5s) and 21 in DWS (crit. range). BF CoS is at least another 11 (16 AP if you want PotF).
So some of defense stance (25 PRR for 6 AP), DM (or KTA) will need to get cut.
Unless you take 1 level of cleric or FvS for the cheap DM, in which case you could go
40 tempest
21 DWS
11 BF
6 SaD
2 Warpriest

I'd probably cut SaD though, Power of the Forge is to good to not take IMO for the double boosting.

On a fleshy the split it's much easier, so you can pick up stuff like killer in DWS. Ranger healing is really good. There's no real need to go BF.

[Kebtid]

In any case, if you drop more than 2 ranger levels, you should drop to 15 ranger. There's nothing to gain with 16 or 17 rangers levels.
Bladeforged is rough on the AP split.
You really want 40 in tempest (Tier 5s) and 21 in DWS (crit. range). BF CoS is at least another 11 (16 AP if you want PotF).
So some of defense stance (25 PRR for 6 AP), DM (or KTA) will need to get cut.
Unless you take 1 level of cleric or FvS for the cheap DM, in which case you could go
40 tempest
21 DWS
11 BF
6 SaD
2 Warpriest

I'd probably cut SaD though, Power of the Forge is to good to not take IMO for the double boosting.

On a fleshy the split it's much easier, so you can pick up stuff like killer in DWS. Ranger healing is really good. There's no real need to go BF.

Fair enough.

Helves, PDK, and BF will have their Action Boosts share cooldowns with other Action Boosts in this Update as well.

Really no point to take bf with that change.
Eth question, since im waiting for them to fix lama /which prolly wont happen/ do you know how the dstrike/dshoot acboost in reaper tree works?
Cant dual boost with lets say haste boost?
Did they entirely lockout double boosts now? (it was actually fun to dual boost, not as gamebreaking that it needed a nerf but oh well, ddo devs hate melee)

[unbongwah]

AFAIK, Mithral Body still doesn't work right with DWS / Tempest enhancements for light armor. So if you're set on BF, I would also look at Eth's NYB 2.0 build.

[goodspeed]

Really no point to take bf with that change.
Eth question, since im waiting for them to fix lama /which prolly wont happen/ do you know how the dstrike/dshoot acboost in reaper tree works?
Cant dual boost with lets say haste boost?
Did they entirely lockout double boosts now? (it was actually fun to dual boost, not as gamebreaking that it needed a nerf but oh well, ddo devs hate melee)

huh I didn't know that. Currently the dmg and haste boost still works but ya that would really blow. That was always my favorite combo with a ranged and back when many hadn't got the shaft. Haste, haste boost, then racial dmg boost from helf or human.

Didn't realize the docent thing either. Though then again *** does a docent work with. lol cant even work with its own max dex broke self.