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    Default A release suggestion for Reaper

    For now, remove all of these expertly conjured up incentive rewards for reaper and just release it open to all. See how the playerbase reacts to running something very hard that requires party roles and teamwork at cap just for the sake of running it.

    Maybe we can revisit the infamous "reaper xp" at a later date.

    Just to clarity:

    • No Reaper Tree
    • No Reaper XP or Points
    • No Mythic/Reaper drops
    • Not even any cosmetics


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    Quote Originally Posted by imTonE View Post
    For now, remove all of these expertly conjured up incentive rewards for reaper and just release it open to all. See how the playerbase reacts to running something very hard that requires party roles and teamwork at cap just for the sake of running it.

    Maybe we can revisit the infamous "reaper xp" at a later date.

    Just to clarity:

    • No Reaper Tree
    • No Reaper XP or Points
    • No Mythic/Reaper drops
    • Not even any cosmetics


    Thoughts?
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    This was not supposed to be about creep
    This was supposed to be about the opposite of creep

    My feedback on everything has been positive to this point (except those silly reaper pots).
    I've spent 10+ hours on Lamma playtesting this and then you guys drop the flipping ball with some silly remarks about a lock-out.

    Its not about your trees, your xp grind, or your mythics/reaper.
    Its about challenge.
    Without new players DDO will go the way of the dodo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by imTonE View Post
    For now, remove all of these expertly conjured up incentive rewards for reaper and just release it open to all. See how the playerbase reacts to running something very hard that requires party roles and teamwork at cap just for the sake of running it.

    Maybe we can revisit the infamous "reaper xp" at a later date.

    Just to clarity:

    • No Reaper Tree
    • No Reaper XP or Points
    • No Mythic/Reaper drops
    • Not even any cosmetics


    Thoughts?
    Or... let's keep Lama up indefinitely... wait... previous build tho...
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    Or,

    Just make all those things only work if you are within 2 levels of the base quest level. If you are too high level, you don't get any rewards at all.

    If you are within 2 levels (or lower) then rewards will drop for you. But, here's the interesting thing: You don't have to take them. You can pass or vendor any loot you get. You can not spend any Reaper XP on the new trees. You can have EXACTLY the experience you desire. Without having to deprive those who do want that experience of getting loot and reaper XP.

    You seem to act like someone has a gun to your head forcing you to loot reaper items an cosmetics. Or forcing you to spend your reaper XP on points in the trees. I don't think that is the case. If you want to ignore it, then do so. But don't force everyone else to play the game the way you want to. Think outside of your own personal goals and desires and see that the game is made of many different players and playstyles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDOTalk71 View Post
    Or,

    Just make all those things only work if you are within 2 levels of the base quest level. If you are too high level, you don't get any rewards at all.

    If you are within 2 levels (or lower) then rewards will drop for you. But, here's the interesting thing: You don't have to take them. You can pass or vendor any loot you get. You can not spend any Reaper XP on the new trees. You can have EXACTLY the experience you desire. Without having to deprive those who do want that experience of getting loot and reaper XP.

    You seem to act like someone has a gun to your head forcing you to loot reaper items an cosmetics. Or forcing you to spend your reaper XP on points in the trees. I don't think that is the case. If you want to ignore it, then do so. But don't force everyone else to play the game the way you want to. Think outside of your own personal goals and desires and see that the game is made of many different players and playstyles.
    Or.

    People want some competition at end game.
    Stop with this "play the game how you want" BS. We do that on live.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sam-u-r-eye View Post
    Or.

    People want some competition at end game.
    Stop with this "play the game how you want" BS. We do that on live.
    What competition are you referring to? PvP or PvE?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDOTalk71 View Post
    What competition are you referring to? PvP or PvE?
    DDO doesn't have PvP, we want challenging content at cap......with a large variety of quests......which we don't have.......I'm e-bored and done with Tr'ing...been there done that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DDOTalk71 View Post
    What competition are you referring to? PvP or PvE?
    Why do people do past lives?
    Gear?
    Max slayers?

    Why do people max DPS?

    Obviously PvE if that's the only answer you're looking for.
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    It looks like we're not gonna get a compromise. Well derp. So much for feedback.
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    For the love of god these HP bonuses. Hahahaha
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    Reaper Tree is a joke. More power creep... why? I mean, didn't anyone learned why we need reaper mode, IN THE FIRST PLACE? I've watched DDOcast 460 and witnessed how devs promised a bag "full of surprises" to come for reaper.

    This has to be a joke. Must be! More power creep is the surprise?

    Yes, we (myself and some guildies) did ran a few reapers in previous lama build. I did feel at some point a bit disappointed by the fact that Skull 10 Mode didn't feel impossible. I am kinda looking for that, the IMPOSSIBLE. But at CAP! And like me, I can only guess many others.

    What is the point for an impossible content at lvl 19? Who cares about that? I would give a cent if a base lvl 17 quest would still be impossible for a caped toon tho. But wait, you are no longer allowed to enter.

    We ran Breaking the Ranks, Skull 10. We wiped without a proper CC and shortmen. Again, I was disappointed because I had the feeling we could have completed it just like that and it didn't feel right. Shame on me! I guess some1 got upset and throw us out: "You no longer welcome!"

    The lockout is the most stupid thing to add in Reaper, alongside with the Reaper Tree.

    What was on Lama previous build was enough. All that had to be done was to clarify the reward system. Which wasn't a big deal either way.

    SAY NO TO REAPER TREE! SAY NO TO LOCKOUT!
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    you will be mem'd
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    My easy solution for reaper:

    - No trees, reaper xp and lockout bulls***
    - Leave the loot as it is in the base quest, just put in REAPER CHEST, at the end and at the tough optionals
    - Have incr. chance for named loots with mythic / reaper bonus in those REAPER CHESTS only, and have 0% drop rate if any party member are above the 2 levels range.
    - Have a chance to drop unique stuff in REAPER CHESTS like cosmetics, bell of openings, teleport rods, skill tomes etc. for all players, doesn't matter if they are overlevel or not
    - Small amount of xp per skull, so players can decide which diff. they run a quest (not only reaper 1) instead of elite

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