Some Info from todays tests

[Tlorrd]

A fighter specialization in tactics should have achievable DCs on tactical abilities that are higher than casters. The reason being that most of the tactical abilities are single target with long cool downs. However, a fighter focusing on DPS should not.

And from here we can build on.

I'm in disagreement ... first off Dire Charge is AOE ... Melee bard with spinning ice is AOE ... Lay waste is AOE ... if you're talking about heroics, that may be a different story.

Caster's have single target CC .. should DCs for those alone be increase? Command, Hold Person, Charm Person.

[BigErkyKid]

I'm in disagreement ... first off Dire Charge is AOE ... Melee bard with spinning ice is AOE ... Lay waste is AOE ... if you're talking about heroics, that may be a different story.

Caster's have single target CC .. should DCs for those alone be increase? Command, Hold Person, Charm Person.

All but dire charge are rather underwhelming. Spinning ice locking you into bards, if it was so desirable more people would take it, yet I have not seen one in the end game scene in months.

If they only had single target, I would agree. But since they aren't I do not agree at all.

As I said, things have to be balanced on the list of things I posted before. Focusing ONLY on single factors is a mistake.

[LavidDynch]

The only one ability that is where it should be is quivering palm even if everyone complained about it. If you build for it you can get mob with low fort save, but not a hope to get high mob save, that should be the same for any other cc ability/spell

Yeah, give casters the QP-treatment and the forums would explode. The sea level would rise to dangerous levels, the Maldives & the Netherlands would finally be no more and you'd be making forum posts wearing a lifejacket (on top of your straitjacket?).

[Kebtid]

Yeah, give casters the QP-treatment and the forums would explode. The sea level would rise to dangerous levels, the Maldives & the Netherlands would finally be no more and you'd be making forum posts wearing a lifejacket (on top of your straitjacket?).

I find it still funny, that bards kept their instakill while increasing cd on monks qplam was a task that is impossible to be done xD

You have to sacrifice not that much but a singificant ammount of dps to reach workable dcs on qpalm while as bard.. You know i just find it funny even nowadays

Well at least we got more dps now.

[Helmer]

All but dire charge are rather underwhelming. Spinning ice locking you into bards, if it was so desirable more people would take it, yet I have not seen one in the end game scene in months.

If they only had single target, I would agree. But since they aren't I do not agree at all.

As I said, things have to be balanced on the list of things I posted before. Focusing ONLY on single factors is a mistake.

One of the reasons you dont see alot of freezing bards is because they gave all melee the the option to do an AOE stun with better dc then spinning ice and shorter cooldown, if you try maxing out your freeze DC as bard, you end up with pretty much a one trick pony, 4 - 5 min. Crappy songs that hardly make a difference in todays game, semi to low DPS compared to other classes that can just take dire charge and do what they do best DPS. Sad but true, freezing bards was unique for a short time, now just a flavour thing. Death to dire charge!! And plus dont give me that ****, well you can just take dire charge on your bard! Thats not the issue!

[Vanhooger]

Yeah, give casters the QP-treatment and the forums would explode. The sea level would rise to dangerous levels, the Maldives & the Netherlands would finally be no more and you'd be making forum posts wearing a lifejacket (on top of your straitjacket?).

I know mate, problem is 99% of population isn't interested in challenging content.

You should be able to target only one save in a mob, the other 2 out of reach. More spell to use, more thinking in one you wish to use, more tactical choices.

[Kebtid]

I know mate, problem is 99% of population isn't interested in challenging content.

Even nowadays, when asu posts ee bb runs while being underleveld on alts, people rarely join, and we usually get the same 3 persons in our group.

All i see all day long are en daily runs on canith and personally i find it so boring and extremely annoying.

[Vanhooger]

Even nowadays, when asu posts ee bb runs while being underleveld on alts, people rarely join, and we usually get the same 3 persons in our group.

All i see all day long are en daily runs on canith and personally i find it so boring and extremely annoying.

Yeah,login check lfm, dailies everywhere, logout until reaper.

[2pc2]

Yeah,login check lfm, dailies everywhere, logout until reaper.

Don't forget LE Slavers ( or whatever is the new powercreep pack) farm to make the game even easier and dumber LOL