No Self Healing Debuff

[Rys]

This.

If you don't want to adapt stick to elite and stop ask for nerf.

It's hilarious for how long we asked for something difficult and now all those complaint about being difficult..lol

Reaper is designed around people who want challenge, if you don't want it stay out of it, nobody is forcing you to play it.

Some build may not work in reaper, but some build that work in reaper will not work outside of it, so where is exactly the problem?

Self healing is adding on team coordination despite whatever you guys will say and restrain people from zerg even in low skull since you're going to die if nobody is around you.

As well no self heal, no solo completion, only team effort will give you a completion.

Agreed.

[Caarb]

I will never pug Reaper. No way in hell would I trust somebody I don't know with healing me. Ever.

And this is why reaper is a bad idea. There is already a lack of LFMs and this will further separate the player base.

[Vanhooger]

And this is why reaper is a bad idea. There is already a lack of LFMs and this will further separate the player base.

Do you guys know how to get friend or look at people who is good while doing quest and ask them to join your party?
Reaper isn't for everyone, as dev stated.

[Wizza]

And this is why reaper is a bad idea. There is already a lack of LFMs and this will further separate the player base.

No, that is only why some people are bad at the game.

[Caarb]

Do you guys know how to get friend or look at people who is good while doing quest and ask them to join your party?
Reaper isn't for everyone, as dev stated.

Actually I will probably get groups fine but that wasn't my point. This has the potential to kill the game as a lot of players will suddenly find themselves playing solo as everyone doing reaper will be in guild/static groups and LFMs will be empty.

[Vanhooger]

Actually I will probably get groups fine but that wasn't my point. This has the potential to kill the game as a lot of players will suddenly find themselves playing solo as everyone doing reaper will be in guild/static groups and LFMs will be empty.

I don't think so, it will be quite the opposite as you have to group to complete a quest, so lfm is much more needed. When you solo you don't need any lfm and you can't solo reaper.

[Yalinaa]

I don't think so, it will be quite the opposite as you have to group to complete a quest, so lfm is much more needed. When you solo you don't need any lfm and you can't solo reaper.

It will last for some days. Then people will start to farm the quests with shinies...

[Vanhooger]

It will last for some days. Then people will start to farm the quests with shinies...

you still need a party even if you farm a specific quest.

[Yalinaa]

you still need a party even if you farm a specific quest.

Well, if you need a certain item with reaper bonus, you will ask your kind friends to help you. If you have 1-2 slots open in party, you won't pug, because the pugger will surely get it and loot it - it's murphy's law. XD
So don't have high hopes for lot of LFM, people will do reaper with friends / guilds mostly.

[Wizza]

Well, if you need a certain item with reaper bonus, you will ask your kind friends to help you. If you have 1-2 slots open in party, you won't pug, because the pugger will surely get it and loot it - it's murphy's law. XD
So don't have high hopes for lot of LFM, people will do reaper with friends / guilds mostly.

People who didn't pug before, won't pug now. Let's not blame it on the difficulty, Reaper 1 through 5 (6? 7?) are very easily puggable, even for just a couple of spots.

People who pugs now, will keep doing it.


Seems like the problem with this difficulty is the mentality of the so-called Elitists, not the difficulty itself.

[Caarb]

People who didn't pug before, won't pug now. Let's not blame it on the difficulty, Reaper 1 through 5 (6? 7?) are very easily puggable, even for just a couple of spots.

People who pugs now, will keep doing it.


Seems like the problem with this difficulty is the mentality of the so-called Elitists, not the difficulty itself.

I don't think reaper is very pug friendly. The last thing I want to do while I am on the TR train is to wipe in a group because someone set the reaper level to a point that the group cant handle it. I agree the game could use additional challenge but I am not sure reaper as it is currently implemented is the right way to go. IMO reaper would work better as an end game feature not as an additional difficulty.

[Vanhooger]

Seems like the problem with this difficulty is the mentality of the so-called Elitists, not the difficulty itself.

Pretty much yeah

[Vanhooger]

I don't think reaper is very pug friendly. The last thing I want to do while I am on the TR train is to wipe in a group because someone set the reaper level to a point that the group cant handle it. I agree the game could use additional challenge but I am not sure reaper as it is currently implemented is the right way to go. IMO reaper would work better as an end game feature not as an additional difficulty.

Main problem I guess it's we so used to obliterate content, zerg + never die that we forgot we can actually wipe sometimes, as it is now (live server) is an insta-win every quest. If you happen to wipe, regroup try it again, there's no shame.

[Wizza]

I don't think reaper is very pug friendly. The last thing I want to do while I am on the TR train is to wipe in a group because someone set the reaper level to a point that the group cant handle it. I agree the game could use additional challenge but I am not sure reaper as it is currently implemented is the right way to go. IMO reaper would work better as an end game feature not as an additional difficulty.

How exactly is that Reaper's fault? Don't play Reaper if you (general you) think you cannot handle it. This is also why Reaper's XP should be the same as Elite.

And wiping is not bad, that is just players' mentality used to roflstomp from 1 to 30. Regroup, retry, lower difficulty, succeed.

[Caarb]

How exactly is that Reaper's fault? Don't play Reaper if you (general you) think you cannot handle it. This is also why Reaper's XP should be the same as Elite.

And wiping is not bad, that is just players' mentality used to roflstomp from 1 to 30. Regroup, retry, lower difficulty, succeed.

The party leader sets the difficulty level the random person joining the PUG has no say. Wiping is inefficient that's why it would be better when you are running for other motivation other than xp/min (ie at cap). Though tbh if Reapers xp is the same as Elite I will likely not run it as efficiency is the most important thing to me 1-30. I just hope this doesn't fragment the player base more than it already is I just cant see how it wont.

[Vanhooger]

The party leader sets the difficulty level the random person joining the PUG has no say. Wiping is inefficient that's why it would be better when you are running for other motivation other than xp/min (ie at cap). Though tbh if Reapers xp is the same as Elite I will likely not run it as efficiency is the most important thing to me 1-30. I just hope this doesn't fragment the player base more than it already is I just cant see how it wont.

You can be the party leader and set the rule, just saying

If you wipe in reaper you better stick with Elite since it will be more efficient for you, rahter then tryin reaper and wipe for a xp bump, anyway r1 is so easy atm that it won't be a problem.

[Yalinaa]

If you wipe in reaper you better stick with Elite since it will be more efficient for you, rahter then tryin reaper and wipe for a xp bump, anyway r1 is so easy atm that it won't be a problem.

With the current build R1 will be the new elite when you do TR / Iconic lives, as you wrote it's easy and gives a good bunch of xp.

[Wizza]

The party leader sets the difficulty level the random person joining the PUG has no say. Wiping is inefficient that's why it would be better when you are running for other motivation other than xp/min (ie at cap). Though tbh if Reapers xp is the same as Elite I will likely not run it as efficiency is the most important thing to me 1-30. I just hope this doesn't fragment the player base more than it already is I just cant see how it wont.

I mean, don't join that pug then? I really see no issues. If you see a pug for Reaper, don't join it if you think it's gonna be a waste of time.

You want to run Reaper for more XP, but at the same time you don't want to get more XP for facing more challenge. Sorry, I don't agree with you.

[Mr_Helmet]

you still need a party even if you farm a specific quest.

A party of guildies and close friends only. Pugs can all die in a fire.

[Vanhooger]

A party of guildies and close friends only. Pugs can all die in a fire.

I have no idea why you hate pugs that much lol.