Weapon effects and wolf - please help

[TheWalruss]

Hey guys

How do the following weapon effects affect wolf form:
- Keen
- Vorpal (+W)
- The weapon die of a weapon (e.g. bastard sword vs. dagger)
- Crit range
- Crit multiplier

Also, if I was to use Kensei to level up my druid build, would I want to take Bludgeoning enhancements in order for them to apply to my wolf form damage?

Please help

Thanks

/Wal

[Krelar]

- Keen (Not sure but I doubt it has any effect)
- Vorpal (Not sure)
- The weapon die of a weapon (No effect)
- Crit range (No effect)
- Crit multiplier (No effect)

[TheWalruss]

Right now there's a huge different between using Thiefling Assasin's Dagger and Threnalian Warblade, I guess that's down to the enhancement bonus of the weapon then? +5 vs +2?

It just seems more than that:

TA Dagger


TW Longsword

[Krelar]

Right now there's a huge different between using Thiefling Assasin's Dagger and Threnalian Warblade, I guess that's down to the enhancement bonus of the weapon then? +5 vs +2?

It just seems more than that:

Well, at least in your picture, the first weapon goes from 25-28 damage the second goes from 28-31 a difference of +3 on the minimum and maximum rolls. the difference between +2 and +5 is 3 so that's exactly what you'd expect.

[lifestaker]

How do the following weapon effects affect wolf form:
- Keen
- Vorpal (+W)
- The weapon die of a weapon (e.g. bastard sword vs. dagger)
- Crit range
- Crit multiplier

It has been a while from the last I ran a druid so I could be wrong on my information.

• Keen/impact - These effects prior to latest enhancement pass use to work, though it only adds +1 to crit range regardless of weapon type in hand.
• Vorpal effect works, though do not think the W carries over.
• Weapon die holds no effect in wolf form. Attack die is switched to whatever animal form you are playing in.
• Crit range weapon effect is keen, unless you are talking expanded critical range weapons, those have no effect.
• Critical multiplier increased weapons additionally hold no effect with animal form.

Also, if I was to use Kensei to level up my druid build, would I want to take Bludgeoning enhancements in order for them to apply to my wolf form damage?

Regardless of bear(b/s) or wolf(s/p) taking blunt weapon focus feats and specialization will effect animal attack. Kensei enhancements are not focused around attack type but rather weapon used, thus you will have to take druidic weapon specialization or martial arts. Both affect unarmed combat (animal attacks).

When you get into epic levels though I can recall that some of the effects from LD require you to have a weapon type in hand to have the effect applied, though due to it being a while I could not tell you what ones off the top of my head, but multiple people have made lists on the forums as to enhancements working in animal form. Most, if not all, of these threads get derailed by people commenting on animal forms being broken, but the information is still in there, just have to ignore the other posts (or block the user so you can read the threads without having to deal with seeing the same people in every thread derailing it with the same mindless dribble). Think this thread has the least amount of derail, and should have your answers for a lot of things that may come up for you that you have not asked about yet. There might be better threads, but that's the one that I have linked to people in the past.

[Lonnbeimnech]

- Keen yes
- Vorpal (+W) yes
- The weapon die of a weapon (e.g. bastard sword vs. dagger) no
- Crit range no
- Crit multiplier no

[unbongwah]

- Keen
- Vorpal (+W)
- The weapon die of a weapon (e.g. bastard sword vs. dagger)
- Crit range
- Crit multiplier

None of these affect wolf-form DPS EXCEPT the vorpal proc from Vorpal (but not the +[W] increase). An Impact weapon will increase your crit range by +1 if you don't have Improved Crit Blunt feat yet.

Also, if I was to use Kensei to level up my druid build, would I want to take Bludgeoning enhancements in order for them to apply to my wolf form damage?

Wolf form should be covered by Druidic Weapons or Martial Arts Focus since it's typed as unarmed atks; likewise you want Blunt feats even though wolves do slashing / piercing damage. But TBH so much of Kensei is bugged when it comes to wolf builds (e.g., pretty sure the crit range / multiplier bonuses still don't apply) that you should test to verify.