red named champs

[Hobgoblin]

ya this is a still a thing.

either fix or call it wai.

but quit putting it in the notes that it was fixed.

[lifestaker]

I have not seen it very much today as of yet, but it might be an issue with the game logic in regards to 'red named' monsters on elite not being always 'red named' on other difficulties. Just a thought.

[Qhualor]

its not in the release notes for today. its going to be fixed, but for whatever reason it did not make in this patch.

[Cordovan]

Correct, this change didn't make it into the patch.

[nokowi]

Correct, this change didn't make it into the patch.

Some proportion of players can't tell red named from orange named because the colors are so similar.

Even when you do fix this, you will hear the same complaint.

Players can go to settings and can change the orange named color to yellow or any other color.

[Sylvado]

Just before the shutdown I found myself trying to keep Brawnpits alive against 2 orange fire elemental champions on a solo run. It didn't end well.

[Aelonwy]

Please fix it. Those that want red name champs to be WAI will soon have Reaper to play.

[Aelonwy]

Some proportion of players can't tell red named from orange named because the colors are so similar.

Even when you do fix this, you will hear the same complaint.

Players can go to settings and can change the orange named color to yellow or any other color.

All my orange names have already been changed to pink... because it makes me giggle when a tough mini-boss has his name in pink letters.

[Qhualor]

Just before the shutdown I found myself trying to keep Brawnpits alive against 2 orange fire elemental champions on a solo run. It didn't end well.

orange named Champions are WAI. 33% chance on hard and 66% chance on elite according to wiki.

[Bill_Jones]

All my orange names have already been changed to pink... because it makes me giggle when a tough mini-boss has his name in pink letters.

I changed the "orange" named mobs to green, but I very much like your idea!

[legendkilleroll]

Dont know why red names cant be champs, its the boss of a dungeon and should pose some threat to the player

I had a champ blackthorn the ogre in P2 slavers LE and compared to any other run he was actually tough and i had to atleast watch my health and when i was standing

[Enoach]

While I understand the red named champs was not something working as intended. I will admit that they did add that extra twist in when they did spawn - Like running Dreaming Dark on Heroic Elite and having the Dreaming Horrors spawn as a Champ - Which are already tough but now with extra damage and Hit Points .

I look forward to Reaper and understand this should be resolved - But it doesn't mean I won't miss them.

[Aelonwy]

Dont know why red names cant be champs, its the boss of a dungeon and should pose some threat to the player

So make the individual boss on elite tougher but not randomly so. That results in disproportionate challenge. This means one group can get end boss with no champ buffs, quest and time spent = success, second group get end boss with minimal champ buffs, quest a little tougher but still success, third group get toughest combo of champ buffs on end boss unexpectedly and quest fails then their time feels wasted. Not because the group couldn't handle "challenge" in the general sense but because the end boss was "randomly" buffed with abilities not meant to be faced in that combination or at that level or in combination with that boss' own unique buffs and abilities.

I appreciate that some players have ground out their raid gear, and past lives, and tomes, and min-maxed their characters to reduce and overcome as much at level challenge as the game allows... and I wish you well in Reaper, may it bring you all the challenge and soul crushing tears of frustration you desire.

[arkonas]

Some proportion of players can't tell red named from orange named because the colors are so similar.

Even when you do fix this, you will hear the same complaint.

Players can go to settings and can change the orange named color to yellow or any other color.

those players need to change their color schemes then. that is a problem with people having a hard time with colors or just no knowledge of the bosses. there are a few bosses who people mistake for red names when they're really orange.

[nokowi]

So make the individual boss on elite tougher but not randomly so. That results in disproportionate challenge. This means one group can get end boss with no champ buffs, quest and time spent = success, second group get end boss with minimal champ buffs, quest a little tougher but still success, third group get toughest combo of champ buffs on end boss unexpectedly and quest fails then their time feels wasted. Not because the group couldn't handle "challenge" in the general sense but because the end boss was "randomly" buffed with abilities not meant to be faced in that combination or at that level or in combination with that boss' own unique buffs and abilities.

I appreciate that some players have ground out their raid gear, and past lives, and tomes, and min-maxed their characters to reduce and overcome as much at level challenge as the game allows... and I wish you well in Reaper, may it bring you all the challenge and soul crushing tears of frustration you desire.

This really applies to all champions - and why there are a group of players that don't like them.

One solution is to reduce damage spikes and introduce other forms of challenge.

It could be buffing all other mobs damage but I prefer simply having a saving throw pass (all players can now fail saves) with less spike damage (remove champion damage buff).

[NaturalHazard]

So make the individual boss on elite tougher but not randomly so. That results in disproportionate challenge. This means one group can get end boss with no champ buffs, quest and time spent = success, second group get end boss with minimal champ buffs, quest a little tougher but still success, third group get toughest combo of champ buffs on end boss unexpectedly and quest fails then their time feels wasted. Not because the group couldn't handle "challenge" in the general sense but because the end boss was "randomly" buffed with abilities not meant to be faced in that combination or at that level or in combination with that boss' own unique buffs and abilities.

I appreciate that some players have ground out their raid gear, and past lives, and tomes, and min-maxed their characters to reduce and overcome as much at level challenge as the game allows... and I wish you well in Reaper, may it bring you all the challenge and soul crushing tears of frustration you desire.

they will still be able to get that via the upcoming reaper so I dont really understand why they want this in hard and elite....................

[boredman]

Yeah, today I was soloing EE Brothers of the forge on my meele monk/fighter, and after like 20 min of quest i arrive to the end fight and guess what, champion gorrin or red name, but i didn't surrender and fought him, 3 times that nasty artificer spell that stuns you got me, used the ld unstoppable, then harper pin and the other i guess i was lucky because could recover just in time from the stun and thanks lord i am a bladeforged so could recover quickly with reconstruct. After some time between kiting a lot, jumping like chicken and using whirlwind plus a lot of displacement scrolls because just have 2 clickies that were burned before half of the fight, i was able to take down the champ and claim title of young lord of constructs from my master the lord of blades, lol.

[Duetotheseverity]

Last tr Sannyasi in monastery of the Scorpion was a champ with damage boost and ignore fortification.

Every hit was 500+ damage because the crazy sneak damage.

Champs are lame unless you get some unluck combos like that.

I just wish all champ mobs were immune to spells and ranged damage too, Why just damage boost to all of them?

[AlcoArgo]

Still a thing.

[Vish]

I like red named champs
They provide challenge
Please keep them in the game