Reaper Rewards discussion

[Wizza]

From Cordovan:

We have a small amount of Reaper rewards in, which are a special form of Mythic Bonus applicable to items in Reaper. Rewards are in a very early state, so anything you see may well change. That's why we're focusing on gameplay, gameplay flow, and difficulty feedback this time around.


Has anyone tried these? What does "special form of Mythic bonus" means? I did a Reaper 1 skull quest but the end named at the end just had the normal +1 Mythic bonus


And another point:

Why oh why did you decide to go this way with rewards. Why not cosmetics or titles for characters? I always found Mythic bonus to be somehow a boring reward for an increased challenge.

[Wizza]

On the other hand, we already have new tools to deal with Reaper..which isn't even implemented yet:

[Whitethorn1]

I have a idea for Reaper Awards .

Maybe you could put reapers in the first or a new free monster manual so ever player has it. That way killing them is traceable. The reward would be as you kill more of them you attain Reaper Marks. Reaper Marks would be a wing-ding like you get for TR'ing out beside your character's name. 25 reapers= blue skull, 100 reapers=white skull, 250 reapers= red skull etc. Sort of a status symbol thing for those how choose to play Reaper Mode. That way they are Marked for other players to invite them to join reaper runs. That should be enough of an award in itself.

Just an idea.

[Sam-u-r-eye]

WOW. I am opposed to those potions.

*steps on silly soap box*

I am opposed to those potions.
They all look like hearty power creep.

NO

There was a reason we needed reaper.
Miniscule power creep? Sure.
We wanted challenge. Selling the straight removal of that challenge is an onion. Every layer of it makes people cry.
Yuckerdoodles, jimminy crickets, etc

My reasoning is above and I want em' removed. eek

*steps off soap box*

[JOTMON]

Reaper cosmetic outfit, head and cosmetic scythe(qstaff).

[Wizza]

Did some quick tests:

1) CD on pots is 3s.
2) If you drink one, you cannot drink the other. No temporary 200 PRR. Can drink infinitely the 150 one tho.
3) Pots can be used in Epic and Heroic content. Won't grat the buff but will be consumed. Fix please.

I'm against this potion. This difficulty is not even Live yet, and we already have some buffs to deal with it.

The one good thing is that the cost is fairly high. But Reaper is made mostly of Champions, which will mean that each quest will pay for its own pots.

[Vanhooger]

Are you serious? We wanted challenge and you already give out stuff to make it easier? LOL. Remove that stuff already please!

[Ellihor]

Can't belive they'll implement those potions. It will kill reaper. It will become a thing people do every X days to burn their rems. It's stupid, reaper will be gated by non-renewable consumables. There will be people farming rems all week to do quests on weekend. Total fail. Reaper should not bring yet another grind to the game.

Ok, you don't have to use those potions, but then, the gap between people using them and not will be too great, where it will be too easy for those who use them and we'd have the same problem we have currently with LE quests. On live they had to choose to balance LE against metagammers or casuals, they chose to balance LE against casual. On reaper they will have to choose to balance against people doing pots or no pots. In any case, it will be a failure.

For god's sake don't implement those potions, and don't think about any other non-renewable consumable gating reaper.

[JOTMON]

Can't belive they'll implement those potions. It will kill reaper. It will become a thing people do every X days to burn their rems. It's stupid, reaper will be gated by non-renewable consumables. There will be people farming rems all week to do quests on weekend. Total fail. Reaper should not bring yet another grind to the game.

Ok, you don't have to use those potions, but then, the gap between people using them and not will be too great, where it will be too easy for those who use them and we'd have the same problem we have currently with LE quests. On live they had to choose to balance LE against metagammers or casuals, they chose to balance LE against casual. On reaper they will have to choose to balance against people doing pots or no pots. In any case, it will be a failure.

For god's sake don't implement those potions, and don't think about any other non-renewable consumable gating reaper.

I like it.
Its a consumable for those need a boost moments and it gives players something to spend their remnants on.
They are only usable in Reaper so are of no value outside of that content, so no power boost for the Reaper capable players in non-reaper content.

Would like to see Reaper only usable gear, augments, other rewards like various unique reaper cosmetics...
Then players can build reaper gear sets for reaper content and switch back to regular gear for non reaper stuff..

It gives those players something to work towards to empower them for the scaling challenge..
Otherwise reaper will only be run a couple times for challenge (just to say been there done that) then done move back to content that gives rewards like Slavers... rewards keep players coming back for more..

[Wizza]

I imagine noone knows what these special form of Mythic is? Can we have something from a Dev?

[Vanhooger]

I imagine noone knows what these special form of Mythic is? Can we have something from a Dev?

they said they want to focus on reaper gameplay so no release note and probably no one know.

[Wizza]

they said they want to focus on reaper gameplay so no release note and probably no one know.

I read that, but rewards have a high impact on which difficulty will be run, thus important for gameplay too. I just want to know where to look at, since the Mythic bonus on my item in R1 was just a normal +1 Mythic.

[Vanhooger]

I read that, but rewards have a high impact on which difficulty will be run, thus important for gameplay too. I just want to know where to look at, since the Mythic bonus on my item in R1 was just a normal +1 Mythic.

I'm afraid only a Dev can answer you're question so

[Severlin]

The potions should not have been in the build since we are still working on the design for Reaper rewards and the potions may or may not be part of it.

That said, they should have a 5 minute cooldown; maybe 10 minutes. You wouldn't be able to spam them; they would provide a temporary buff to get you out of a bad situation.

The question would be whether players need a tool to deal with difficulty spikes due to RNG or quest design.

Sev~

[Severlin]

I read that, but rewards have a high impact on which difficulty will be run, thus important for gameplay too. I just want to know where to look at, since the Mythic bonus on my item in R1 was just a normal +1 Mythic.

The designs on Reaper mode are still in the early stages but what Cordovan was talking about it this; one aspect of Reaper reward would be that Reaper has a higher chance of Mythic bonuses than Elite. In addition, named items have a small chance to also have Reaper bonuses.

Sev~

[Wizza]

The potions should not have been in the build since we are still working on the design for Reaper rewards and the potions may or may not be part of it.

That said, they should have a 5 minute cooldown; maybe 10 minutes. You wouldn't be able to spam them; they would provide a temporary buff to get you out of a bad situation.

The question would be whether players need a tool to deal with difficulty spikes due to RNG or quest design.

Sev~

I, once again, think these potions shouldn't exist. Instead, use the increased amount of Champions to implement different cool Remnant rewards. Cosmetics is the one that is the most obvious.

I think tomes would be an awesome Reaper reward as well, since Turbine pretty much killed all the other ways to get them. More/more fun augments, better and rarer scrolls, potions. I would have liked Titles (that show up on your character) based on the challenge that you have accomplished. Say defeated Shroud on R10, you get the title Shroud Conqueror. Many MMOs use that system, and it's quite fun,

The designs on Reaper mode are still in the early stages but what Cordovan was talking about it this; one aspect of Reaper reward would be that Reaper has a higher chance of Mythic bonuses than Elite. In addition, named items have a small chance to also have Reaper bonuses.

Sev~

What is the difference between R1 and R10? Just higher drop rates, or also higher values on the Reaper bonuses?

[Rys]

The designs on Reaper mode are still in the early stages but what Cordovan was talking about it this; one aspect of Reaper reward would be that Reaper has a higher chance of Mythic bonuses than Elite. In addition, named items have a small chance to also have Reaper bonuses.

Sev~

That's kinda disappointing. The mythic bonuses are indeed boring. I see you said it will be only one aspect of Reaper reward so please go with some unique cosmetics and in game titles for bragging rights and more fun

[Sam-u-r-eye]

The designs on Reaper mode are still in the early stages but what Cordovan was talking about it this; one aspect of Reaper reward would be that Reaper has a higher chance of Mythic bonuses than Elite. In addition, named items have a small chance to also have Reaper bonuses.

Sev~

these sound fun. rys stop being a lich clown.

[Mr_Helmet]

What the heck is a "reaper bonus?"

[Wizza]

these sound fun. rys stop being a lich clown.

There are no lich clowns. Only gibblet clowns.