stick build critique

[bree22]

I am a returning player. (2yrs) I was looking for something different to make it more interesting. So I was looking for something with a staff; being that is the only weapon I haven't played with.

This will be played on one of my alts so not looking for a min max type but a good generalist that can solo and do traps. I have +5 tome for str +2 on dex and +3s on the rest.

Here is what I came up with so far. I don't have equipment or weapons listed but please feel free to point out what are a must.

Are my base for saves/dodge workable?

INT base

Staff build
12/6/2 Fighter/Monk/Rogue
Lawful Good Human


Level Order

1. Rogue 6. Monk 11. Fighter 16. Fighter
2. Fighter 7. Monk 12. Fighter 17. Fighter
3. Fighter 8. Monk 13. Fighter 18. Fighter
4. Monk 9. Monk 14. Fighter 19. Fighter
5. Monk 10. Fighter 15. Fighter 20. Rogue


Stats
28pt 32pt 34pt 36pt Tome Level Up
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- --------
Strength 15 15 15 15 +5 4: INT
Dexterity 11 12 11 12 +2 8: INT
Constitution 13 13 13 14 +3 12: INT
Intelligence 16 17 18 18 +3 16: INT
Wisdom 10 10 10 10 +3 20: INT
Charisma 8 8 8 8 +3 24: INT
28: INT

Skills
R F F M M M M M M F F F F F F F F F F R
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
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Disable 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23
Search 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23
Spot 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23
UMD 4 ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 1½ 1½ 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 4 23
Move Si 4 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 5 21
Hide 4 1 1 1 4 1 1 1 1 5 20
Concent 1 4 3 1 1 1 1 12
Open Lo 4 4
Bluff 4 4
Diplo 4 4
Balance 4 4
Jump 4 4
Heal 2 2
Tumble 1 1
Haggle 1 1
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52 7 7 10 10 10 10 11 11 9 9 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 17


Feats

1 : Two Handed Fighting
1 Human : Insightful Reflexes
2 Fighter: Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning
3 : Precision
3 Fighter: Power Attack
4 Monk : Dodge
5 Monk : Mobility
6 : Power Critical
6 Monk : Path of Harmonious Balance
9 : Improved Two Handed Fighting
9 Monk : Toughness
11 Fighter: Improved Critical: Bludgeoning
12 : Master of Forms
13 Fighter: Spring Attack
15 : Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning
15 Fighter: Greater Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning
17 Fighter: Greater Two Handed Fighting
18 : Grandmaster of Forms
19 Fighter: Greater Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning
21 Epic : Magical Training
24 Epic : Overwhelming Critical
26 Destiny: Holy Strike
27 Epic : Epic Damage Reduction
28 Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
29 Destiny: Dire Charge
30 Epic : Blinding Speed
30 Legend : Scion of: Astral Plane


Enhancements (80 AP)

Kensei (33 AP)
• Kensei Focus: Martial Arts
1. Extra Action Boost III, Weapon Group Specialization, Haste Boost III, Reed in the Wind III
2. Weapon Group Specialization, Improved Dodge III, Ascetic Training: Conditioning III
3. Critical Mastery III, Weapon Group Specialization
4. Weapon Group Specialization
5. A Good Death: Melee, Weapon Master, Deadly Strike

Henshin Mystic (21 AP)
• Riddle of Fire, Ki Bolt, Sounding Staff
1. All-Consuming Flame, Henshin Staff Training, Way of the: Patient Tortoise
2. Henshin Staff Training, Quick Strike III
3. Henshin Staff Training, Lighting the Candle III

Thief-Acrobat (14 AP)
• Staff Control
1. Acrobat Staff Training, Thief Acrobatics III
2. Acrobat Staff Training, Quick Strike III

Harper Agent (12 AP)
• Agent of Good I, Intelligence
1. Traveler's Toughness II, Strategic Combat
2. Magical Endurance III
3. Strategic Combat

[Discpsycho]

It's pretty reasonable. It's tough to go wrong with 12 Fighter or 6 Monk or 2 Rogue these days, regardless of what the other class levels are. Your setup has the best of most worlds - 12 Monk / 6 Fighter / 2 Rogue would be my personal preference because I'm a fan of Abundant Step more than MP, but I'm a weirdo in that regard.

I've never personally tried an int-based build, but I know they're generally pretty powerful. The one thing you should absolutely change is your Harper points - if you're building Int, you should absolutely take Know the Angles, even though it costs SP and your base SP won't be high. It'll also help your Dire Charge DC.

Also, there's no real point in taking Quick Strike from both TA and Henshin. If you drop Quick Strike from TA, you'll get 6 points back. If you also drop Acrobat Staff Training II and Way of the Patient Tortoise (it only gives you 10 hp and 2 Concentration) you'll have enough for Stalwart Defense + Durable Defense for +25 PRR (and Resilient Defense if you like for another +3 to saves), with a point left over for a Human Damage Boost.

[bree22]

It's pretty reasonable. It's tough to go wrong with 12 Fighter or 6 Monk or 2 Rogue these days, regardless of what the other class levels are. Your setup has the best of most worlds - 12 Monk / 6 Fighter / 2 Rogue would be my personal preference because I'm a fan of Abundant Step more than MP, but I'm a weirdo in that regard.

I've never personally tried an int-based build, but I know they're generally pretty powerful. The one thing you should absolutely change is your Harper points - if you're building Int, you should absolutely take Know the Angles, even though it costs SP and your base SP won't be high. It'll also help your Dire Charge DC.

Also, there's no real point in taking Quick Strike from both TA and Henshin. If you drop Quick Strike from TA, you'll get 6 points back. If you also drop Acrobat Staff Training II and Way of the Patient Tortoise (it only gives you 10 hp and 2 Concentration) you'll have enough for Stalwart Defense + Durable Defense for +25 PRR (and Resilient Defense if you like for another +3 to saves), with a point left over for a Human Damage Boost.

something like this? btw this is a 36pt build with past life M, P, F and 2 ranger. Looking to see if I have a +3 dex tome on a bank toon.

Staff build 2
12/6/2 Fighter/Monk/Rogue
Lawful Good Human


Level Order

1. Rogue 6. Monk 11. Fighter 16. Fighter
2. Fighter 7. Monk 12. Fighter 17. Fighter
3. Fighter 8. Monk 13. Fighter 18. Fighter
4. Monk 9. Monk 14. Fighter 19. Fighter
5. Monk 10. Fighter 15. Fighter 20. Rogue


Stats
28pt 32pt 34pt 36pt Tome Level Up
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- --------
Strength 15 15 15 15 +5 4: INT
Dexterity 11 12 11 12 +2 8: INT
Constitution 13 13 13 14 +3 12: INT
Intelligence 16 17 18 18 +3 16: INT
Wisdom 10 10 10 10 +3 20: INT
Charisma 8 8 8 8 +3 24: INT
28: INT

Skills
R F F M M M M M M F F F F F F F F F F R
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
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Disable 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23
Search 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23
Spot 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23
UMD 4 ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 1½ 1½ 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 4 23
Move Si 4 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 5 21
Hide 4 1 1 1 4 1 1 1 1 5 20
Concent 1 4 3 1 1 1 1 12
Open Lo 4 4
Bluff 4 4
Diplo 4 4
Balance 4 4
Jump 4 4
Heal 2 2
Tumble 1 1
Haggle 1 1
------------------------------------------------------------
52 7 7 10 10 10 10 11 11 9 9 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 17


Feats

1 : Two Handed Fighting
1 Human : Insightful Reflexes
2 Fighter: Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning
3 : Precision
3 Fighter: Power Attack
4 Monk : Dodge
5 Monk : Mobility
6 : Power Critical
6 Monk : Path of Harmonious Balance
9 : Improved Two Handed Fighting
9 Monk : Toughness
11 Fighter: Improved Critical: Bludgeoning
12 : Master of Forms
13 Fighter: Spring Attack
15 : Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning
15 Fighter: Greater Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning
17 Fighter: Greater Two Handed Fighting
18 : Grandmaster of Forms
19 Fighter: Greater Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning
21 Epic : Magical Training
24 Epic : Overwhelming Critical
26 Destiny: Holy Strike
27 Epic : Epic Damage Reduction
28 Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
29 Destiny: Dire Charge
30 Epic : Blinding Speed
30 Legend : Scion of: Astral Plane


Enhancements (80 AP)

Kensei (33 AP)
• Kensei Focus: Martial Arts
1. Extra Action Boost III, Weapon Group Specialization, Haste Boost III, Reed in the Wind III
2. Weapon Group Specialization, Improved Dodge III, Ascetic Training: Conditioning III
3. Critical Mastery III, Weapon Group Specialization
4. Weapon Group Specialization
5. A Good Death: Melee, Weapon Master, Deadly Strike

Henshin Mystic (21 AP)
• Riddle of Fire, Ki Bolt, Sounding Staff
1. All-Consuming Flame, Henshin Staff Training, Way of the: Patient Tortoise
2. Henshin Staff Training, Quick Strike III
3. Henshin Staff Training, Lighting the Candle III

Harper Agent (16 AP)
• Agent of Good I, Intelligence, Agent of Good II
1. Traveler's Toughness II, Strategic Combat
2. Magical Endurance III, Know the Angles III
3. Strategic Combat

Stalwart Defender (6 AP)
• Toughness, Stalwart Defense
1. Item Defense I, Durable Defense III

Thief-Acrobat (4 AP)
• Staff Control
1. Thief Acrobatics III

[Discpsycho]

Looks great! Enjoy =)

[unbongwah]

I'm underwhelmed by the mid-tier Henshin enhancements, so if not going for T5, I'd probably stop at 11 APs (3 cores for +30 MP). Then drop a few pts from Harper so you can afford to take Ninja Shadow Veil and human Dmg Boost.

You may also want to consider swapping GWS for Tactical Mastery (+6 to Dire Charge DCs) which stacks with the +4 you're getting from Astral Plane. I would also skip Power Crit and Spring Atk to squeeze in the Cleave feats, particularly if running in LD.

[bree22]

I'm underwhelmed by the mid-tier Henshin enhancements, so if not going for T5, I'd probably stop at 11 APs (3 cores for +30 MP). Then drop a few pts from Harper so you can afford to take Ninja Shadow Veil and human Dmg Boost.

You may also want to consider swapping GWS for Tactical Mastery (+6 to Dire Charge DCs) which stacks with the +4 you're getting from Astral Plane. I would also skip Power Crit and Spring Atk to squeeze in the Cleave feats, particularly if running in LD.

So something like this? I think I like the Quick strike a lot for staves.

Staff build 2
12/6/2 Fighter/Monk/Rogue
Lawful Good Human


Level Order

1. Rogue 6. Monk 11. Fighter 16. Fighter
2. Fighter 7. Monk 12. Fighter 17. Fighter
3. Fighter 8. Monk 13. Fighter 18. Fighter
4. Monk 9. Monk 14. Fighter 19. Fighter
5. Monk 10. Fighter 15. Fighter 20. Rogue


Stats
28pt 32pt 34pt 36pt Tome Level Up
---- ---- ---- ---- ---- --------
Strength 15 15 15 15 +5 4: INT
Dexterity 11 12 11 12 +2 8: INT
Constitution 13 13 13 14 +3 12: INT
Intelligence 16 17 18 18 +3 16: INT
Wisdom 10 10 10 10 +3 20: INT
Charisma 8 8 8 8 +3 24: INT
28: INT

Skills
R F F M M M M M M F F F F F F F F F F R
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20
------------------------------------------------------------
Disable 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23
Search 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23
Spot 4 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 23
UMD 4 ½ ½ ½ 1 ½ ½ ½ 1½ 1½ 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 4 23
Move Si 4 2 2 3 1 1 1 1 1 5 21
Hide 4 1 1 1 4 1 1 1 1 5 20
Concent 1 4 3 1 1 1 1 12
Open Lo 4 4
Bluff 4 4
Diplo 4 4
Balance 4 4
Jump 4 4
Heal 2 2
Tumble 1 1
Haggle 1 1
------------------------------------------------------------
52 7 7 10 10 10 10 11 11 9 9 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 10 17


Feats

1 : Two Handed Fighting
1 Human : Insightful Reflexes
2 Fighter: Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning
3 : Magical Training
3 Fighter: Power Attack
4 Monk : Dodge
5 Monk : Mobility
6 : Cleave
6 Monk : Path of Harmonious Balance
9 : Improved Two Handed Fighting
9 Monk : Precision
11 Fighter: Improved Critical: Bludgeoning
12 : Master of Forms
13 Fighter: Great Cleave
15 : Weapon Specialization: Bludgeoning
15 Fighter: Greater Weapon Focus: Bludgeoning
17 Fighter: Greater Two Handed Fighting
18 : Grandmaster of Forms
19 Fighter: Tactical Mastery
21 Epic : Overwhelming Critical
24 Epic : Burst of Glacial Wrath
26 Destiny: Holy Strike
27 Epic : Epic Damage Reduction
28 Destiny: Perfect Two Handed Fighting
29 Destiny: Dire Charge
30 Epic : Blinding Speed
30 Legend : Scion of: Astral Plane


Enhancements (80 AP)

Kensei (33 AP)
• Kensei Focus: Martial Arts
1. Extra Action Boost III, Weapon Group Specialization, Haste Boost III, Reed in the Wind III
2. Weapon Group Specialization, Improved Dodge III, Ascetic Training: Conditioning III
3. Critical Mastery III, Weapon Group Specialization
4. Weapon Group Specialization
5. A Good Death: Melee, Weapon Master, Deadly Strike

Henshin Mystic (13 AP)
• Riddle of Fire, Ki Bolt, Sounding Staff
1. All-Consuming Flame, Henshin Staff Training, Mystic Training I
2. Quick Strike III

Harper Agent (13 AP)
• Agent of Good I, Intelligence, Agent of Good II
1. Traveler's Toughness II, Strategic Combat
2. Know the Angles III
3. Strategic Combat

Ninja Spy (11 AP)
• Basic Ninja Training, Advanced Ninja Training, Shadow Veil
1. Stealthy II, Acrobatic II
2. Agility II, Fists of Iron

Stalwart Defender (6 AP)
• Toughness, Stalwart Defense
1. Item Defense I, Durable Defense III

Thief-Acrobat (4 AP)
• Staff Control
1. Thief Acrobatics III