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    Default The Definitive Quivering Palm & Max Wisdom Thread

    So, it's time we Monks determined what our Maximum Quivering Palm DC is likely to be, and exactly which bonuses actually work to this ability.

    Current 'reasonable' Max Wisdom
    18 Base
    07 Levels
    07 Tome
    08 Enhancements (4 Primary Tree Capstone, 2 Primary Tree, 2 Secondary Tree) *1
    02 Completionist
    17 Item: Enhancement
    07 Item: Insight
    04 Item: Quality
    02 Item: Artifact
    02 Item: Profane
    01 Item: Exceptional
    02 Festival Augment
    04 Grandmaster Water Stance
    06 Epic Destiny
    02 Feats: Great Wisdom
    02 ED Twists: Wisdom
    02 Yugoloth Potion
    02 Remnant Potion
    02 Guild Ship
    = 97 Wisdom (+43 Bonus)

    *1 +10 Enhancement AP setup possible, but prevents Know the Angles usage

    Current 'reasonable' Max Intelligence (Know the Angles)
    12 Base
    07 Tome
    02 Completionist
    17 Item: Enhancement
    07 Item: Insight
    04 Item: Quality
    02 Item: Artifact
    02 Item: Profane
    01 Item: Exceptional
    02 Remnant Potion
    02 Guild Ship
    = 58 Intelligence (+24 Bonus)
    = +12DC Bonus to Quivering Palm

    Current 'reasonable' Quivering Palm DC (20 Monk, Any Race)
    10 Base
    10 Monk Level
    43 Wisdom Bonus
    03 PL: Fighter
    06 ED: Legendary Tactics
    03 ED: Grandmaster of Flowers Innates
    04 Feat: Scion of the Astral Plane
    02 Feat: Tactician
    = 81DC
    Base DC
    = 93DC with Know the Angles

    Current 'Max' Quivering Palm DC (16 Monk, 4 Fighter, Dwarf or WF)
    10 Base
    08 Monk Level
    43 Wisdom Bonus
    03 PL: Fighter
    06 ED: Legendary Tactics
    03 ED: Grandmaster of Flowers Innates
    03 Dwarf Tactics
    03 Kensei Tactics
    02 Feat: Tactical Training
    04 Feat: Scion of the Astral Plane
    02 Feat: Tactician
    = 87DC

    = 99DC with Know the Angles

    Extreme 'Max' Wisdom Build - May cause Build Gimping! Be Warned!
    +2 ED: Acute Instincts (Requires constant Rage Potion usage)
    +1 ED: Twists (All twist slots used for Wisdom, Acute Instincts & Legendary Tactics)
    +2 Feats: Great Wisdom (All Epic Feats used for Great Wisdom)
    +2 Racial Wisdom - Deep Gnome
    +2 Racial Enhancement - Deep Gnome or Human/PDK Action Boost: Wisdom
    = +9 Wisdom

    Current Theoretical Max Wisdom: 106 Wisdom

    Confirmed working Quivering Palm Bonuses
    +X Harper Bonus from Know The Angles
    +X PDK Charisma Bonus from Knight Training
    03 Warforged / Bladeforged / Dwarf Tactics
    03 Kensei Tactics
    03 ED: Grand Master of Flowers Innate
    02 Feat: Tactical Training
    04 Feat: Scion of the Astral Plane
    03 PL: Fighter
    06 ED: Legendary Tactics

    Confirmed not working Bonuses
    +X Any Item-based bonuses to Tactics, including Combat Mastery
    01 Guild Ship Bonus


    Please post your known working bonuses to Quivering Palm, as well as anything concerning Wisdom bonuses I may have missed.

    Thanks!
    Last edited by Arlathen; 12-19-2016 at 05:32 PM.
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